BTW, we've covered a lot of ground in this thread, but no comment that we invested a LOI on a punter.

Read he averaged 40 yards per punt as a senior. Julien is a rising senior so maybe C.C. found his successor to Julien.

I just looked and it appears that Davies-Balogun didn't commit anywhere! So, what does that mean? He's not eligible? Can decide at later date? That young man on film has A Crosby first step, and speed/explosion we need desperately need! Last year we simply didn't have that period! But, are we out of scholarships?

(02-07-2020 07:31 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  I just looked and it appears that Davies-Balogun didn't commit anywhere! So, what does that mean? He's not eligible? Can decide at later date? That young man on film has A Crosby first step, and speed/explosion we need desperately need! Last year we simply didn't have that period! But, are we out of scholarships?

Yeah this one makes no sense to me. I know February 5th was signing day, but was that the one and only day, or was the 5th the start of a signing period? Meaning could he sign somewhere over the next few days?

(02-07-2020 08:56 PM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 07:31 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  I just looked and it appears that Davies-Balogun didn't commit anywhere! So, what does that mean? He's not eligible? Can decide at later date? That young man on film has A Crosby first step, and speed/explosion we need desperately need! Last year we simply didn't have that period! But, are we out of scholarships?

Yeah this one makes no sense to me. I know February 5th was signing day, but was that the one and only day, or was the 5th the start of a signing period? Meaning could he sign somewhere over the next few days?

The signing period extends into April. The spring signing period is long.

(02-07-2020 09:51 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 08:56 PM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 07:31 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  I just looked and it appears that Davies-Balogun didn't commit anywhere! So, what does that mean? He's not eligible? Can decide at later date? That young man on film has A Crosby first step, and speed/explosion we need desperately need! Last year we simply didn't have that period! But, are we out of scholarships?

Yeah this one makes no sense to me. I know February 5th was signing day, but was that the one and only day, or was the 5th the start of a signing period? Meaning could he sign somewhere over the next few days?

The signing period extends into April. The spring signing period is long.

Okay, so in theory we could still add Davies-Balogun. Seems unlikely with the amount of guys we've signed though.

(02-06-2020 09:13 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Keys for next year
Is Ryland reliable
Who is our quarterback
Can we run the ball consistently
Can we put better pressure on our opponents QB

-I liked what I saw from Ryland in the bowl game, granted it was inside. Hopefully that is a sigh of things to come, his inability to hit some chip shots the last couple years have cost us a couple games.

-Obviously Hutchinson seems to be the odds on favorite. I thought it was interesting that on a podcast the first two guys CC mentioned in replacing Glass were actually him and May before he mentioned Jackson or our transfer QB.
(I have NO evidence, or inside info, or ANYTHING! haha. But for some reason I just have a hunch that Grissom ends up as our QB. Again, no real reason just a feeling)

-It seemed the run game came on at the end of the year (127 years vs. Pitt, 123 vs KSU, 193 vs. NIU, 252 vs. Akron). Some of that was the competition level, but I thought the o-line really started to come together (most of them are back and we've recruited well there) and Vann picked up his back. Hopefully between Parker, Boone, Mackey, Smith, Branham??, and whoever plays QB they can come close to what Glass/Vann did. The last four games we averaged 174 yards a game on the ground. With our WRs and TEs if we could even just average 120-130 on the ground the offense could be VERY good.

-That is why I was bummed we didn't end up with Davies-Balogun. I think we have a lot of good players on the D-line (Rush, Scott, Hunt, Haney, Merritt, Holford, Trueman, Ransey, Eddington, Stagner, Hamilton, Jackson). There is a lot of talent and potential there, the issue is that other than maybe Rush, none of them have shown to be a big-time pass rusher off the edge. Stagner was a fairly big recruit we'll have to see what he can do, or Coleman but that seems like a lot to ask from a true freshmen.

One more thing on the signing process: Signing is a PROCESS, not simply a decision.

I've heard of kids who couldn't sign because their high school wouldn't release transcripts because of money owed, etc. etc. (a parent told me this saga years ago).

We do NOT know if he didn't sign because of something on our end OR his.

The good news is that he hasn't signed with anyone which means he is still out there.

(02-08-2020 09:19 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 09:13 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Keys for next year
Is Ryland reliable
Who is our quarterback
Can we run the ball consistently
Can we put better pressure on our opponents QB

-I liked what I saw from Ryland in the bowl game, granted it was inside. Hopefully that is a sigh of things to come, his inability to hit some chip shots the last couple years have cost us a couple games.

-Obviously Hutchinson seems to be the odds on favorite. I thought it was interesting that on a podcast the first two guys CC mentioned in replacing Glass were actually him and May before he mentioned Jackson or our transfer QB.
(I have NO evidence, or inside info, or ANYTHING! haha. But for some reason I just have a hunch that Grissom ends up as our QB. Again, no real reason just a feeling)

-It seemed the run game came on at the end of the year (127 years vs. Pitt, 123 vs KSU, 193 vs. NIU, 252 vs. Akron). Some of that was the competition level, but I thought the o-line really started to come together (most of them are back and we've recruited well there) and Vann picked up his back. Hopefully between Parker, Boone, Mackey, Smith, Branham??, and whoever plays QB they can come close to what Glass/Vann did. The last four games we averaged 174 yards a game on the ground. With our WRs and TEs if we could even just average 120-130 on the ground the offense could be VERY good.

-That is why I was bummed we didn't end up with Davies-Balogun. I think we have a lot of good players on the D-line (Rush, Scott, Hunt, Haney, Merritt, Holford, Trueman, Ransey, Eddington, Stagner, Hamilton, Jackson). There is a lot of talent and potential there, the issue is that other than maybe Rush, none of them have shown to be a big-time pass rusher off the edge. Stagner was a fairly big recruit we'll have to see what he can do, or Coleman but that seems like a lot to ask from a true freshmen.

Is Ryland reliable - probably? at least as reliable as any other MAC kicker
Who is our quarterback - probably hutch? maybe Helbig. Grisson isnt even listed as a QB on the roster. jackson is probably a couple years away
Can we run the ball consistently - probably? the running game got better as the year went on and the O-Line is returning an awful lot of people
Can we put better pressure on our opponents QB - probably? we're returning the interior of the dline and have a DC who is good at the xs and os

(02-08-2020 09:49 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 09:19 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 09:13 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Keys for next year
Is Ryland reliable
Who is our quarterback
Can we run the ball consistently
Can we put better pressure on our opponents QB

-I liked what I saw from Ryland in the bowl game, granted it was inside. Hopefully that is a sigh of things to come, his inability to hit some chip shots the last couple years have cost us a couple games.

-Obviously Hutchinson seems to be the odds on favorite. I thought it was interesting that on a podcast the first two guys CC mentioned in replacing Glass were actually him and May before he mentioned Jackson or our transfer QB.
(I have NO evidence, or inside info, or ANYTHING! haha. But for some reason I just have a hunch that Grissom ends up as our QB. Again, no real reason just a feeling)

-It seemed the run game came on at the end of the year (127 years vs. Pitt, 123 vs KSU, 193 vs. NIU, 252 vs. Akron). Some of that was the competition level, but I thought the o-line really started to come together (most of them are back and we've recruited well there) and Vann picked up his back. Hopefully between Parker, Boone, Mackey, Smith, Branham??, and whoever plays QB they can come close to what Glass/Vann did. The last four games we averaged 174 yards a game on the ground. With our WRs and TEs if we could even just average 120-130 on the ground the offense could be VERY good.

-That is why I was bummed we didn't end up with Davies-Balogun. I think we have a lot of good players on the D-line (Rush, Scott, Hunt, Haney, Merritt, Holford, Trueman, Ransey, Eddington, Stagner, Hamilton, Jackson). There is a lot of talent and potential there, the issue is that other than maybe Rush, none of them have shown to be a big-time pass rusher off the edge. Stagner was a fairly big recruit we'll have to see what he can do, or Coleman but that seems like a lot to ask from a true freshmen.

Is Ryland reliable - probably? at least as reliable as any other MAC kicker
Who is our quarterback - probably hutch? maybe Helbig. Grisson isnt even listed as a QB on the roster. jackson is probably a couple years away
Can we run the ball consistently - probably? the running game got better as the year went on and the O-Line is returning an awful lot of people
Can we put better pressure on our opponents QB - probably? we're returning the interior of the dline and have a DC who is good at the xs and os

I'm quietly rooting for Hutchinson or Jackson to be the QB. They've paid their dues at EMU. But if Helbig beats them out so be it.

I think we all really want to see Grissom get more touches. Be it recieving or running, just get him the damn ball.

The key to the entire offense will be the run game. If successful it will enable the passing game to excel and take the heat off the defense.

iyer

(02-08-2020 09:19 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 09:13 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Keys for next year
Is Ryland reliable
Who is our quarterback
Can we run the ball consistently
Can we put better pressure on our opponents QB

-I liked what I saw from Ryland in the bowl game, granted it was inside. Hopefully that is a sigh of things to come, his inability to hit some chip shots the last couple years have cost us a couple games.

-Obviously Hutchinson seems to be the odds on favorite. I thought it was interesting that on a podcast the first two guys CC mentioned in replacing Glass were actually him and May before he mentioned Jackson or our transfer QB.
(I have NO evidence, or inside info, or ANYTHING! haha. But for some reason I just have a hunch that Grissom ends up as our QB. Again, no real reason just a feeling)

-It seemed the run game came on at the end of the year (127 years vs. Pitt, 123 vs KSU, 193 vs. NIU, 252 vs. Akron). Some of that was the competition level, but I thought the o-line really started to come together (most of them are back and we've recruited well there) and Vann picked up his back. Hopefully between Parker, Boone, Mackey, Smith, Branham??, and whoever plays QB they can come close to what Glass/Vann did. The last four games we averaged 174 yards a game on the ground. With our WRs and TEs if we could even just average 120-130 on the ground the offense could be VERY good.

-That is why I was bummed we didn't end up with Davies-Balogun. I think we have a lot of good players on the D-line (Rush, Scott, Hunt, Haney, Merritt, Holford, Trueman, Ransey, Eddington, Stagner, Hamilton, Jackson). There is a lot of talent and potential there, the issue is that other than maybe Rush, none of them have shown to be a big-time pass rusher off the edge. Stagner was a fairly big recruit we'll have to see what he can do, or Coleman but that seems like a lot to ask from a true freshmen.

I liked what I saw from Ramirez as a speed rush off the end in his 4 games last year. With a year to add strength, he could be a surprise.

(02-08-2020 11:03 AM)EMU03 Wrote:  iyer

(02-08-2020 09:19 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 09:13 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Keys for next year
Is Ryland reliable
Who is our quarterback
Can we run the ball consistently
Can we put better pressure on our opponents QB

-I liked what I saw from Ryland in the bowl game, granted it was inside. Hopefully that is a sigh of things to come, his inability to hit some chip shots the last couple years have cost us a couple games.

-Obviously Hutchinson seems to be the odds on favorite. I thought it was interesting that on a podcast the first two guys CC mentioned in replacing Glass were actually him and May before he mentioned Jackson or our transfer QB.
(I have NO evidence, or inside info, or ANYTHING! haha. But for some reason I just have a hunch that Grissom ends up as our QB. Again, no real reason just a feeling)

-It seemed the run game came on at the end of the year (127 years vs. Pitt, 123 vs KSU, 193 vs. NIU, 252 vs. Akron). Some of that was the competition level, but I thought the o-line really started to come together (most of them are back and we've recruited well there) and Vann picked up his back. Hopefully between Parker, Boone, Mackey, Smith, Branham??, and whoever plays QB they can come close to what Glass/Vann did. The last four games we averaged 174 yards a game on the ground. With our WRs and TEs if we could even just average 120-130 on the ground the offense could be VERY good.

-That is why I was bummed we didn't end up with Davies-Balogun. I think we have a lot of good players on the D-line (Rush, Scott, Hunt, Haney, Merritt, Holford, Trueman, Ransey, Eddington, Stagner, Hamilton, Jackson). There is a lot of talent and potential there, the issue is that other than maybe Rush, none of them have shown to be a big-time pass rusher off the edge. Stagner was a fairly big recruit we'll have to see what he can do, or Coleman but that seems like a lot to ask from a true freshmen.

I liked what I saw from Ramirez as a speed rush off the end in his 4 games last year. With a year to add strength, he could be a surprise.

Hate to sound like "Sunshine Steve live from 30,000 feet", but I really think we have been recruiting much better recruits over the last few years and it will show.

When a MAC school recruits such a high proportion of their Plan A recruits usually a good thing happens. We will recruit X number of DLs and maybe a good number are solid MAC players. The more Plan A recruits the better the odds are that there will be some pleasant surprises. Hopefully we have some like Ramirez. As I have been suggesting, we have NUMBERS along the DL (and OL, too!!). I'm confident that some will develop to fill holes.

We are still in the program development cycle where are young recruits are better than our young recruits were say 3 or 6 years ago. In time these prized recruits will pay off.

In the past a lot of our recruits may have been borderline MAC line recruits. Now any of the 85 scholarship players maybe contributors.

(02-08-2020 11:10 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 11:03 AM)EMU03 Wrote:  iyer

(02-08-2020 09:19 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 09:13 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Keys for next year
Is Ryland reliable
Who is our quarterback
Can we run the ball consistently
Can we put better pressure on our opponents QB

-I liked what I saw from Ryland in the bowl game, granted it was inside. Hopefully that is a sigh of things to come, his inability to hit some chip shots the last couple years have cost us a couple games.

-Obviously Hutchinson seems to be the odds on favorite. I thought it was interesting that on a podcast the first two guys CC mentioned in replacing Glass were actually him and May before he mentioned Jackson or our transfer QB.
(I have NO evidence, or inside info, or ANYTHING! haha. But for some reason I just have a hunch that Grissom ends up as our QB. Again, no real reason just a feeling)

-It seemed the run game came on at the end of the year (127 years vs. Pitt, 123 vs KSU, 193 vs. NIU, 252 vs. Akron). Some of that was the competition level, but I thought the o-line really started to come together (most of them are back and we've recruited well there) and Vann picked up his back. Hopefully between Parker, Boone, Mackey, Smith, Branham??, and whoever plays QB they can come close to what Glass/Vann did. The last four games we averaged 174 yards a game on the ground. With our WRs and TEs if we could even just average 120-130 on the ground the offense could be VERY good.

-That is why I was bummed we didn't end up with Davies-Balogun. I think we have a lot of good players on the D-line (Rush, Scott, Hunt, Haney, Merritt, Holford, Trueman, Ransey, Eddington, Stagner, Hamilton, Jackson). There is a lot of talent and potential there, the issue is that other than maybe Rush, none of them have shown to be a big-time pass rusher off the edge. Stagner was a fairly big recruit we'll have to see what he can do, or Coleman but that seems like a lot to ask from a true freshmen.

I liked what I saw from Ramirez as a speed rush off the end in his 4 games last year. With a year to add strength, he could be a surprise.

Hate to sound like "Sunshine Steve live from 30,000 feet", but I really think we have been recruiting much better recruits over the last few years and it will show.

When a MAC school recruits such a high proportion of their Plan A recruits usually a good thing happens. We will recruit X number of DLs and maybe a good number are solid MAC players. The more Plan A recruits the better the odds are that there will be some pleasant surprises. Hopefully we have some like Ramirez. As I have been suggesting, we have NUMBERS along the DL (and OL, too!!). I'm confident that some will develop to fill holes.

We are still in the program development cycle where are young recruits are better than our young recruits were say 3 or 6 years ago. In time these prized recruits will pay off.

In the past a lot of our recruits may have been borderline MAC line recruits. Now any of the 85 scholarship players maybe contributors.

WTKA 1050 AM interviewed Creighton Friday morning on their "inside the huddle" program. The interviewers absolutely raved about the SAPC and Coach did as well.

The most interesting quote of the interview? Chris said "we are finally to a place where recruiting is keeping guys away as much as it to draw guys in". I interpreted this as he wants no bad actors. My opinion only.

https://www.wtka.com/2018/03/28/wtka-podcasts/

(02-08-2020 06:03 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 11:10 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 11:03 AM)EMU03 Wrote:  iyer

(02-08-2020 09:19 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 09:13 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Keys for next year
Is Ryland reliable
Who is our quarterback
Can we run the ball consistently
Can we put better pressure on our opponents QB

-I liked what I saw from Ryland in the bowl game, granted it was inside. Hopefully that is a sigh of things to come, his inability to hit some chip shots the last couple years have cost us a couple games.

-Obviously Hutchinson seems to be the odds on favorite. I thought it was interesting that on a podcast the first two guys CC mentioned in replacing Glass were actually him and May before he mentioned Jackson or our transfer QB.
(I have NO evidence, or inside info, or ANYTHING! haha. But for some reason I just have a hunch that Grissom ends up as our QB. Again, no real reason just a feeling)

-It seemed the run game came on at the end of the year (127 years vs. Pitt, 123 vs KSU, 193 vs. NIU, 252 vs. Akron). Some of that was the competition level, but I thought the o-line really started to come together (most of them are back and we've recruited well there) and Vann picked up his back. Hopefully between Parker, Boone, Mackey, Smith, Branham??, and whoever plays QB they can come close to what Glass/Vann did. The last four games we averaged 174 yards a game on the ground. With our WRs and TEs if we could even just average 120-130 on the ground the offense could be VERY good.

-That is why I was bummed we didn't end up with Davies-Balogun. I think we have a lot of good players on the D-line (Rush, Scott, Hunt, Haney, Merritt, Holford, Trueman, Ransey, Eddington, Stagner, Hamilton, Jackson). There is a lot of talent and potential there, the issue is that other than maybe Rush, none of them have shown to be a big-time pass rusher off the edge. Stagner was a fairly big recruit we'll have to see what he can do, or Coleman but that seems like a lot to ask from a true freshmen.

I liked what I saw from Ramirez as a speed rush off the end in his 4 games last year. With a year to add strength, he could be a surprise.

Hate to sound like "Sunshine Steve live from 30,000 feet", but I really think we have been recruiting much better recruits over the last few years and it will show.

When a MAC school recruits such a high proportion of their Plan A recruits usually a good thing happens. We will recruit X number of DLs and maybe a good number are solid MAC players. The more Plan A recruits the better the odds are that there will be some pleasant surprises. Hopefully we have some like Ramirez. As I have been suggesting, we have NUMBERS along the DL (and OL, too!!). I'm confident that some will develop to fill holes.

We are still in the program development cycle where are young recruits are better than our young recruits were say 3 or 6 years ago. In time these prized recruits will pay off.

In the past a lot of our recruits may have been borderline MAC line recruits. Now any of the 85 scholarship players maybe contributors.

WTKA 1050 AM interviewed Creighton Friday morning on their "inside the huddle" program. The interviewers absolutely raved about the SAPC and Coach did as well.

The most interesting quote of the interview? Chris said "we are finally to a place where recruiting is keeping guys away as much as it to draw guys in". I interpreted this as he wants no bad actors. My opinion only.

https://www.wtka.com/2018/03/28/wtka-podcasts/

I think that comment was direct at a certain poster on this forum.

Think of the terms as applied to college admissions: EMU FB is becoming more selective in our recruits. We have more recruits interested in EMU than we can handle. Good interview. Discussed a lot of recruits.

Everyone gets to sign 25 / 85, but it is the quality of the recruits that vary as the reputation of team improves the quality of the recruits rises.

In the past, we were much less selective.

One thing C.C. said which I think is very important and worth keeping in mind:

He said the 2021 class will the FIRST class to be recruited after the SAPC has been completed. A lot of the 2020 class was recruited while the SAPC was going up.

NOW, all the recruits see the finished product and see it being used by the players, coaches, staff, etc.

The response has been very positive from the recruits. [Suggest you listen to the podcast linked above.]

Another key is under CC we redshirt alot of players this did not happen under previous coaches because we were short on filling scholarship players

(02-09-2020 07:57 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Another key is under CC we redshirt alot of players this did not happen under previous coaches because we were short on filling scholarship players

it speaks to CC's knack for resource management

we talk about this being the first class with the SAPC - lets talk about how this is the first class that doesn't remember EMU being bad? our last BAD year was 2015. None of the current players remember being terrible. We haven't been terrible since the recruits were in middle school. that HAS to count for something.

(02-09-2020 08:15 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(02-09-2020 07:57 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Another key is under CC we redshirt alot of players this did not happen under previous coaches because we were short on filling scholarship players

it speaks to CC's knack for resource management

we talk about this being the first class with the SAPC - lets talk about how this is the first class that doesn't remember EMU being bad? our last BAD year was 2015. None of the current players remember being terrible. We haven't been terrible since the recruits were in middle school. that HAS to count for something.

Yes. We are having a 'perfect storm' of good events, an improving program and improving facilities happening concomitantly.

We have fans here who go back decades and generations, but the new recruits essentially grew up during C.C. tenure as HC. (is the the converse of MBB where are golden days were 25 - 30 years ago).

(02-09-2020 09:00 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(02-09-2020 08:15 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(02-09-2020 07:57 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Another key is under CC we redshirt alot of players this did not happen under previous coaches because we were short on filling scholarship players

it speaks to CC's knack for resource management

we talk about this being the first class with the SAPC - lets talk about how this is the first class that doesn't remember EMU being bad? our last BAD year was 2015. None of the current players remember being terrible. We haven't been terrible since the recruits were in middle school. that HAS to count for something.

Yes. We are having a 'perfect storm' of good events, an improving program and improving facilities happening concomitantly.

We have fans here who go back decades and generations, but the new recruits essentially grew up during C.C. tenure as HC. (is the the converse of MBB where are golden days were 25 - 30 years ago).

Very well said...….CC is building something, while Murphy is trending downward...….We need to have a winning MAC record in both though!