(02-03-2020 01:08 PM)Jb 94 Wrote:  Without a doubt... clearly speaks volumes on the state of the current program...kinda embarrassing

When did this recruit suddenly become a 5 star?

and enough with the criticism of Hammocks staff...Way too early to even worry about
Next year at this time we can have more information to base any analysis on

(02-03-2020 07:05 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 06:13 PM)NIUHuskie4life Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 05:13 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 04:57 PM)Big Red Wrote:  1. This isn't embarrassing or a travesty or any other hyperbolic exclamation someone could think of.

2. It doesn't take any kind of genius to understand that Carey has a relationship with the Lynch family and Jordan and knows Justin personally (not just as a recruit).

3. If I were Justin, I'd probably have no interest in following in my big brother's footsteps at NIU.

4. It's quite possible that Hammock wasn't that high on Justin, it's not like he was getting any heavy recruiting from any of the other state schools.

5. There would be only one scenario in which the Lynch sequel saga would have played out positively and that is with Justin being the full time starter, winning the conference and winning a bowl game. Anything else would have been scrutinized and speculated and arm-chair coached to death by people who either don't have the credentials, the ability, or the knowledge to be a D-1 college coach.

6. The entire situation reeked of drama.

7. People here are getting and acting desperate.

8. If I had to choose between a MAC school or an AAC school, I'd have a real hard time choosing the MAC school especially if I had an inside track (and a personal relationship with the head coach) to start.

9. Many of ya'll need to calm down.

I don't see anyone jumping off ledges.

The author of the post right below yours is walking the ledge of the building about to jump.

That's one guy and he is always doing that. Not going after Lynch aggressively isn't a concern, but it is interesting and discussion worthy. If ever there was a player destined to come to NIU it would be a Justin Lynch. He's a MAC level recruit so it's not like it would have been a reach. He has an NIU alum coach. THE NIU ALUM coach. The connection is there. There's rely no reason not to pursue him. Hammock will fill out Lynch's class with some PWOs so its not like they're wasting a spot. Too many good QBs a problem at NIU all of a sudden? So it's just curious why he would not. It's not about Justin's decision. It's about Hammock's disinterest. We won't ever know the reason and there are plenty that make perfectly good sense. And even if Lynch went on to be great and Fletcher bombed out I wouldn't blame Hammock. But I would still love to know his reasoning. If the reason is "he doesn't fit the system" I would say - playmakers fit every system.

playmakers fit every system

Good thing LSU didnt listen to that rational

(02-03-2020 09:03 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 07:05 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 06:13 PM)NIUHuskie4life Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 05:13 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 04:57 PM)Big Red Wrote:  1. This isn't embarrassing or a travesty or any other hyperbolic exclamation someone could think of.

2. It doesn't take any kind of genius to understand that Carey has a relationship with the Lynch family and Jordan and knows Justin personally (not just as a recruit).

3. If I were Justin, I'd probably have no interest in following in my big brother's footsteps at NIU.

4. It's quite possible that Hammock wasn't that high on Justin, it's not like he was getting any heavy recruiting from any of the other state schools.

5. There would be only one scenario in which the Lynch sequel saga would have played out positively and that is with Justin being the full time starter, winning the conference and winning a bowl game. Anything else would have been scrutinized and speculated and arm-chair coached to death by people who either don't have the credentials, the ability, or the knowledge to be a D-1 college coach.

6. The entire situation reeked of drama.

7. People here are getting and acting desperate.

8. If I had to choose between a MAC school or an AAC school, I'd have a real hard time choosing the MAC school especially if I had an inside track (and a personal relationship with the head coach) to start.

9. Many of ya'll need to calm down.

I don't see anyone jumping off ledges.

The author of the post right below yours is walking the ledge of the building about to jump.

That's one guy and he is always doing that. Not going after Lynch aggressively isn't a concern, but it is interesting and discussion worthy. If ever there was a player destined to come to NIU it would be a Justin Lynch. He's a MAC level recruit so it's not like it would have been a reach. He has an NIU alum coach. THE NIU ALUM coach. The connection is there. There's rely no reason not to pursue him. Hammock will fill out Lynch's class with some PWOs so its not like they're wasting a spot. Too many good QBs a problem at NIU all of a sudden? So it's just curious why he would not. It's not about Justin's decision. It's about Hammock's disinterest. We won't ever know the reason and there are plenty that make perfectly good sense. And even if Lynch went on to be great and Fletcher bombed out I wouldn't blame Hammock. But I would still love to know his reasoning. If the reason is "he doesn't fit the system" I would say - playmakers fit every system.

playmakers fit every system

Good thing LSU didnt listen to that rational

I'm actually quite surprised that Justin Lynch chose Temple over LSU.

Before coming to conclusions like Hammock and company screwed up or “missed” on Justin Lynch, a look at some facts, and then some observations.

Temple offered Justin Lynch on June 14, 2019 after his So. season and before his Jr. season started. I don’t know if these stats for Justin Lynch’s So. year are correct?
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/justin-.../stats.htm

However, I recall that he was not the starting QB in his So. year, and when I heard about the Temple offer, I thought Carey is betting on the potential, in essence hoping to catch lightening in a bottle a second time. Maybe Justin will be a great QB or not start or somewhere in between. As is clear and as someone already pointed out, merely being Jordan’s younger brother does not mean he is the second coming of Jordan Lynch.

Justin Lynch’s other offers per his twitter account in chronical order:

WMU: Dec. 3, 2020
Brown: Dec. 12, 2019
NIU: Jan. 21, 2020
Kent St.: Jan. 21, 2020
BG: Jan. 27, 2020
CMU.: Jan. 28, 2020

Based on this, the timing of the NIU offer was within the 2-month time frame of all his offers, except Temple. I don’t know if these are the exact dates of the offers. Presuming that Justin posted the offers as they came in (which looks to be the case), conclusions like NIU was late and four other MAC schools “reached out” to Justin Lynch before NIU is incorrect; and it is not “embarrassing” to extend an offer within the same time frame as the other non-Temple offers.

And these are the dates of his offers. Who says that NIU did not “reach out” to Justin (and/or Jordan) before the Jan. 21st offer? Hammock and company not keeping the communication going with Jordan wouldn’t make sense, and we don’t know what happened with Justin specifically and with Jordan/Mount Carmel generally. After all, the Mount Carmel championship game was at NIU, and does anyone know if Hammock and/or other NIU coaches “reached out” to Justin and/or Jordan before or after that game at NIU or for that matter before that game? I hardly think that the NIU Jan. 21st offer was some cold “token” offer without any prior contact.

Justin had a good championship game, rushing for 120 yards and passing for 87 yards. I don’t know what his Jr. season stats are, but does that sound more like a Carey or Hammock QB? Don’t you think Jordan and Justin knew Dustin Fletcher is Hammock’s “guy”, and felt Justin might not start until his senior year? Couple that with the Jordan/Carey relationship, Justin valuing the very early Temple offer, and other points made in this thread, and Justin committing to Temple is not a huge shock. I am curious to see how Justin’s Sr. season goes, and if a big year results in some P5 offers.

Do I wish we got Justin? Yes. However, take a deep breath and relax; this is not some kind of horrible recruiting screw up or a “miss”, at least IMO. It seems Justin selected Temple as he (likely with significant input from Jordan) felt it was the best fit. I really like our 2020 class, and hope we get a few more in a couple of days. Time will tell if this class turns out as good it looks on paper, including Dustin Fletcher, as well as Jay Ducker, who I am also very high on.

(02-03-2020 09:29 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 09:03 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 07:05 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 06:13 PM)NIUHuskie4life Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 05:13 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I don't see anyone jumping off ledges.

The author of the post right below yours is walking the ledge of the building about to jump.

That's one guy and he is always doing that. Not going after Lynch aggressively isn't a concern, but it is interesting and discussion worthy. If ever there was a player destined to come to NIU it would be a Justin Lynch. He's a MAC level recruit so it's not like it would have been a reach. He has an NIU alum coach. THE NIU ALUM coach. The connection is there. There's rely no reason not to pursue him. Hammock will fill out Lynch's class with some PWOs so its not like they're wasting a spot. Too many good QBs a problem at NIU all of a sudden? So it's just curious why he would not. It's not about Justin's decision. It's about Hammock's disinterest. We won't ever know the reason and there are plenty that make perfectly good sense. And even if Lynch went on to be great and Fletcher bombed out I wouldn't blame Hammock. But I would still love to know his reasoning. If the reason is "he doesn't fit the system" I would say - playmakers fit every system.

playmakers fit every system

Good thing LSU didnt listen to that rational

I'm actually quite surprised that Justin Lynch chose Temple over LSU.

Coach U over Coach O

(02-03-2020 10:41 PM)NILAW Wrote:  Before coming to conclusions like Hammock and company screwed up or “missed” on Justin Lynch, a look at some facts, and then some observations.

Temple offered Justin Lynch on June 14, 2019 after his So. season and before his Jr. season started. I don’t know if these stats for Justin Lynch’s So. year are correct?
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/justin-.../stats.htm

However, I recall that he was not the starting QB in his So. year, and when I heard about the Temple offer, I thought Carey is betting on the potential, in essence hoping to catch lightening in a bottle a second time. Maybe Justin will be a great QB or not start or somewhere in between. As is clear and as someone already pointed out, merely being Jordan’s younger brother does not mean he is the second coming of Jordan Lynch.

Justin Lynch’s other offers per his twitter account in chronical order:

WMU: Dec. 3, 2020
Brown: Dec. 12, 2019
NIU: Jan. 21, 2020
Kent St.: Jan. 21, 2020
BG: Jan. 27, 2020
CMU.: Jan. 28, 2020

Based on this, the timing of the NIU offer was within the 2-month time frame of all his offers, except Temple. I don’t know if these are the exact dates of the offers. Presuming that Justin posted the offers as they came in (which looks to be the case), conclusions like NIU was late and four other MAC schools “reached out” to Justin Lynch before NIU is incorrect; and it is not “embarrassing” to extend an offer within the same time frame as the other non-Temple offers.

And these are the dates of his offers. Who says that NIU did not “reach out” to Justin (and/or Jordan) before the Jan. 21st offer? Hammock and company not keeping the communication going with Jordan wouldn’t make sense, and we don’t know what happened with Justin specifically and with Jordan/Mount Carmel generally. After all, the Mount Carmel championship game was at NIU, and does anyone know if Hammock and/or other NIU coaches “reached out” to Justin and/or Jordan before or after that game at NIU or for that matter before that game? I hardly think that the NIU Jan. 21st offer was some cold “token” offer without any prior contact.

Justin had a good championship game, rushing for 120 yards and passing for 87 yards. I don’t know what his Jr. season stats are, but does that sound more like a Carey or Hammock QB? Don’t you think Jordan and Justin knew Dustin Fletcher is Hammock’s “guy”, and felt Justin might not start until his senior year? Couple that with the Jordan/Carey relationship, Justin valuing the very early Temple offer, and other points made in this thread, and Justin committing to Temple is not a huge shock. I am curious to see how Justin’s Sr. season goes, and if a big year results in some P5 offers.

Do I wish we got Justin? Yes. However, take a deep breath and relax; this is not some kind of horrible recruiting screw up or a “miss”, at least IMO. It seems Justin selected Temple as he (likely with significant input from Jordan) felt it was the best fit. I really like our 2020 class, and hope we get a few more in a couple of days. Time will tell if this class turns out as good it looks on paper, including Dustin Fletcher, as well as Jay Ducker, who I am also very high on.

Why is it when a few people say things like - “ I hope this doesn’t come back to bite him” , “seemed out of obligation” and “it’s just seems odd” that others respond with....you need to calm down and you need to take a deep breath? Does anyone really seem angry or outraged? Can people wonder aloud about recruiting decisions involving the brother of the greatest player NIU has seen? Those kind of hyperbolic responses create disention.

IMO everything still goes back to pro-this coach, pro-that coach. Question why Lynch wasn’t a top priority and you’re a anti-hammock cancer. They’re just thoughts. Not slander.

(02-03-2020 10:41 PM)NILAW Wrote:  Before coming to conclusions like Hammock and company screwed up or “missed” on Justin Lynch, a look at some facts, and then some observations.

Temple offered Justin Lynch on June 14, 2019 after his So. season and before his Jr. season started. I don’t know if these stats for Justin Lynch’s So. year are correct?
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/justin-.../stats.htm

However, I recall that he was not the starting QB in his So. year, and when I heard about the Temple offer, I thought Carey is betting on the potential, in essence hoping to catch lightening in a bottle a second time. Maybe Justin will be a great QB or not start or somewhere in between. As is clear and as someone already pointed out, merely being Jordan’s younger brother does not mean he is the second coming of Jordan Lynch.

Justin Lynch’s other offers per his twitter account in chronical order:

WMU: Dec. 3, 2020
Brown: Dec. 12, 2019
NIU: Jan. 21, 2020
Kent St.: Jan. 21, 2020
BG: Jan. 27, 2020
CMU.: Jan. 28, 2020

Based on this, the timing of the NIU offer was within the 2-month time frame of all his offers, except Temple. I don’t know if these are the exact dates of the offers. Presuming that Justin posted the offers as they came in (which looks to be the case), conclusions like NIU was late and four other MAC schools “reached out” to Justin Lynch before NIU is incorrect; and it is not “embarrassing” to extend an offer within the same time frame as the other non-Temple offers.

And these are the dates of his offers. Who says that NIU did not “reach out” to Justin (and/or Jordan) before the Jan. 21st offer? Hammock and company not keeping the communication going with Jordan wouldn’t make sense, and we don’t know what happened with Justin specifically and with Jordan/Mount Carmel generally. After all, the Mount Carmel championship game was at NIU, and does anyone know if Hammock and/or other NIU coaches “reached out” to Justin and/or Jordan before or after that game at NIU or for that matter before that game? I hardly think that the NIU Jan. 21st offer was some cold “token” offer without any prior contact.

Justin had a good championship game, rushing for 120 yards and passing for 87 yards. I don’t know what his Jr. season stats are, but does that sound more like a Carey or Hammock QB? Don’t you think Jordan and Justin knew Dustin Fletcher is Hammock’s “guy”, and felt Justin might not start until his senior year? Couple that with the Jordan/Carey relationship, Justin valuing the very early Temple offer, and other points made in this thread, and Justin committing to Temple is not a huge shock. I am curious to see how Justin’s Sr. season goes, and if a big year results in some P5 offers.

Do I wish we got Justin? Yes. However, take a deep breath and relax; this is not some kind of horrible recruiting screw up or a “miss”, at least IMO. It seems Justin selected Temple as he (likely with significant input from Jordan) felt it was the best fit. I really like our 2020 class, and hope we get a few more in a couple of days. Time will tell if this class turns out as good it looks on paper, including Dustin Fletcher, as well as Jay Ducker, who I am also very high on.

My thoughts exactly. Justin was a gadget player his sophmore year, behind starter Rad Premovic. It wouldn't make much sense to through a full ride at him after that year. He had a pretty good junior campaign, as we and all of the other schools made him an offer after that.

Like I said before, Temple had their guy and we have ours. I think we are moving in the right direction.

When I watch his film I see an FCS player, just my opinion. He's a good high school player and a gamer but I don't think he has the arm strength to play FBS. I believe our coaches offered him as a courtesy.

(02-04-2020 09:53 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  When I watch his film I see an FCS player, just my opinion. He's a good high school player and a gamer but I don't think he has the arm strength to play FBS. I believe our coaches offered him as a courtesy.

I think Jordan was the same way. But what no one could measure or see, was his tenacity in the weight room and on the field. Who knows if Justin has that same element in him? Seems like it, but it's not guaranteed.

(02-04-2020 09:08 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:41 PM)NILAW Wrote:  Before coming to conclusions like Hammock and company screwed up or “missed” on Justin Lynch, a look at some facts, and then some observations.

Temple offered Justin Lynch on June 14, 2019 after his So. season and before his Jr. season started. I don’t know if these stats for Justin Lynch’s So. year are correct?
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/justin-.../stats.htm

However, I recall that he was not the starting QB in his So. year, and when I heard about the Temple offer, I thought Carey is betting on the potential, in essence hoping to catch lightening in a bottle a second time. Maybe Justin will be a great QB or not start or somewhere in between. As is clear and as someone already pointed out, merely being Jordan’s younger brother does not mean he is the second coming of Jordan Lynch.

Justin Lynch’s other offers per his twitter account in chronical order:

WMU: Dec. 3, 2020
Brown: Dec. 12, 2019
NIU: Jan. 21, 2020
Kent St.: Jan. 21, 2020
BG: Jan. 27, 2020
CMU.: Jan. 28, 2020

Based on this, the timing of the NIU offer was within the 2-month time frame of all his offers, except Temple. I don’t know if these are the exact dates of the offers. Presuming that Justin posted the offers as they came in (which looks to be the case), conclusions like NIU was late and four other MAC schools “reached out” to Justin Lynch before NIU is incorrect; and it is not “embarrassing” to extend an offer within the same time frame as the other non-Temple offers.

And these are the dates of his offers. Who says that NIU did not “reach out” to Justin (and/or Jordan) before the Jan. 21st offer? Hammock and company not keeping the communication going with Jordan wouldn’t make sense, and we don’t know what happened with Justin specifically and with Jordan/Mount Carmel generally. After all, the Mount Carmel championship game was at NIU, and does anyone know if Hammock and/or other NIU coaches “reached out” to Justin and/or Jordan before or after that game at NIU or for that matter before that game? I hardly think that the NIU Jan. 21st offer was some cold “token” offer without any prior contact.

Justin had a good championship game, rushing for 120 yards and passing for 87 yards. I don’t know what his Jr. season stats are, but does that sound more like a Carey or Hammock QB? Don’t you think Jordan and Justin knew Dustin Fletcher is Hammock’s “guy”, and felt Justin might not start until his senior year? Couple that with the Jordan/Carey relationship, Justin valuing the very early Temple offer, and other points made in this thread, and Justin committing to Temple is not a huge shock. I am curious to see how Justin’s Sr. season goes, and if a big year results in some P5 offers.

Do I wish we got Justin? Yes. However, take a deep breath and relax; this is not some kind of horrible recruiting screw up or a “miss”, at least IMO. It seems Justin selected Temple as he (likely with significant input from Jordan) felt it was the best fit. I really like our 2020 class, and hope we get a few more in a couple of days. Time will tell if this class turns out as good it looks on paper, including Dustin Fletcher, as well as Jay Ducker, who I am also very high on.

Why is it when a few people say things like - “ I hope this doesn’t come back to bite him” , “seemed out of obligation” and “it’s just seems odd” that others respond with....you need to calm down and you need to take a deep breath? Does anyone really seem angry or outraged? Can people wonder aloud about recruiting decisions involving the brother of the greatest player NIU has seen? Those kind of hyperbolic responses create disention.

IMO everything still goes back to pro-this coach, pro-that coach. Question why Lynch wasn’t a top priority and you’re a anti-hammock cancer. They’re just thoughts. Not slander.

Yea, that happens a lot. It's a message board. People question things.

(02-04-2020 10:05 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(02-04-2020 09:53 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  When I watch his film I see an FCS player, just my opinion. He's a good high school player and a gamer but I don't think he has the arm strength to play FBS. I believe our coaches offered him as a courtesy.

I think Jordan was the same way. But what no one could measure or see, was his tenacity in the weight room and on the field. Who knows if Justin has that same element in him? Seems like it, but it's not guaranteed.

A lot of our greatest players were one offer players. Wolfe, Turner, Lynch were not highly recruited. We are all about finding diamonds in the rough and developing. No one knew how great Lynch would be. He was a change of pace to Harnish. Golladay started at an FCS. The list can go on and on. That’s what the hard way is all about.

(02-04-2020 10:05 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(02-04-2020 09:53 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  When I watch his film I see an FCS player, just my opinion. He's a good high school player and a gamer but I don't think he has the arm strength to play FBS. I believe our coaches offered him as a courtesy.

I think Jordan was the same way. But what no one could measure or see, was his tenacity in the weight room and on the field. Who knows if Justin has that same element in him? Seems like it, but it's not guaranteed.

Justin is a solid 3 star recruit as a junior. Temple is just buying low. But What more does a kid needs to do to show potential? If he winds up being great people will be - he’s the brother of a heisman finalist and state champion qb. Why didn’t you think he’d be good? Poor arm strength I get. But he’s a 16 - 17 year old. Arm strength will come. His decision making is already being lauded.

Let’s be real, most all of us aren’t going to know 95% of the recruits next year. Some will have zero stars and no offers and you’ll love them based on one hudl highlight. At least with Lynch we have some things to go off of. If Sutton Smith had a brother with the same skills and a NIU alum coaching him would you expect Hammock to go after him aggressively?

(02-04-2020 09:08 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:41 PM)NILAW Wrote:  Before coming to conclusions like Hammock and company screwed up or “missed” on Justin Lynch, a look at some facts, and then some observations.

Temple offered Justin Lynch on June 14, 2019 after his So. season and before his Jr. season started. I don’t know if these stats for Justin Lynch’s So. year are correct?
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/justin-.../stats.htm

However, I recall that he was not the starting QB in his So. year, and when I heard about the Temple offer, I thought Carey is betting on the potential, in essence hoping to catch lightening in a bottle a second time. Maybe Justin will be a great QB or not start or somewhere in between. As is clear and as someone already pointed out, merely being Jordan’s younger brother does not mean he is the second coming of Jordan Lynch.

Justin Lynch’s other offers per his twitter account in chronical order:

WMU: Dec. 3, 2020
Brown: Dec. 12, 2019
NIU: Jan. 21, 2020
Kent St.: Jan. 21, 2020
BG: Jan. 27, 2020
CMU.: Jan. 28, 2020

Based on this, the timing of the NIU offer was within the 2-month time frame of all his offers, except Temple. I don’t know if these are the exact dates of the offers. Presuming that Justin posted the offers as they came in (which looks to be the case), conclusions like NIU was late and four other MAC schools “reached out” to Justin Lynch before NIU is incorrect; and it is not “embarrassing” to extend an offer within the same time frame as the other non-Temple offers.

And these are the dates of his offers. Who says that NIU did not “reach out” to Justin (and/or Jordan) before the Jan. 21st offer? Hammock and company not keeping the communication going with Jordan wouldn’t make sense, and we don’t know what happened with Justin specifically and with Jordan/Mount Carmel generally. After all, the Mount Carmel championship game was at NIU, and does anyone know if Hammock and/or other NIU coaches “reached out” to Justin and/or Jordan before or after that game at NIU or for that matter before that game? I hardly think that the NIU Jan. 21st offer was some cold “token” offer without any prior contact.

Justin had a good championship game, rushing for 120 yards and passing for 87 yards. I don’t know what his Jr. season stats are, but does that sound more like a Carey or Hammock QB? Don’t you think Jordan and Justin knew Dustin Fletcher is Hammock’s “guy”, and felt Justin might not start until his senior year? Couple that with the Jordan/Carey relationship, Justin valuing the very early Temple offer, and other points made in this thread, and Justin committing to Temple is not a huge shock. I am curious to see how Justin’s Sr. season goes, and if a big year results in some P5 offers.

Do I wish we got Justin? Yes. However, take a deep breath and relax; this is not some kind of horrible recruiting screw up or a “miss”, at least IMO. It seems Justin selected Temple as he (likely with significant input from Jordan) felt it was the best fit. I really like our 2020 class, and hope we get a few more in a couple of days. Time will tell if this class turns out as good it looks on paper, including Dustin Fletcher, as well as Jay Ducker, who I am also very high on.

Why is it when a few people say things like - “ I hope this doesn’t come back to bite him” , “seemed out of obligation” and “it’s just seems odd” that others respond with....you need to calm down and you need to take a deep breath? Does anyone really seem angry or outraged? Can people wonder aloud about recruiting decisions involving the brother of the greatest player NIU has seen? Those kind of hyperbolic responses create disention.

IMO everything still goes back to pro-this coach, pro-that coach. Question why Lynch wasn’t a top priority and you’re a anti-hammock cancer. They’re just thoughts. Not slander.

Why? Because for the mere fact that people are wondering if this will be something to regret. Are we "discussing" every single recruit that chooses another school in this same way (or in any way at all)?

Also, the very first comment by the OP said this was "super depressing".

For the most part, yeah, the reaction isn't complete outrage, but the fact that there is a thread on this at all (and one that is now on it's 4th page and 4th day of comments) means that people are reacting to this in a way that is unmatched to any and all other recruits that have chosen a different school this year.

That, in itself, is why people need to chill out about it and stop all the wondering and tea leaf readings. Lynch knows Carey and wants to play there. Fine. There most likely was nothing NIU could have (or should have) done differently. And being first wouldn't have made a difference.

(02-04-2020 11:49 AM)Big Red Wrote:  Why? Because for the mere fact that people are wondering if this will be something to regret. Are we "discussing" every single recruit that chooses another school in this same way (or in any way at all)?

Also, the very first comment by the OP said this was "super depressing".

For the most part, yeah, the reaction isn't complete outrage, but the fact that there is a thread on this at all (and one that is now on it's 4th page and 4th day of comments) means that people are reacting to this in a way that is unmatched to any and all other recruits that have chosen a different school this year.

That, in itself, is why people need to chill out about it and stop all the wondering and tea leaf readings. Lynch knows Carey and wants to play there. Fine. There most likely was nothing NIU could have (or should have) done differently. And being first wouldn't have made a difference.

This is a very unique and special situation. I stated Lynch is the only recruit I’d ever get into this kind of speculation about. The legacy, connection, similarity...all that stuff will likely never show up in another recruit again. The only part I’m even questioning is the lack of attention to Justin by this staff. Again, not criticizing. Hammock fans don’t need to rush to his defense. I’m a Hammock fan. I’m also a Lynch fan. IMO, NIU owes its Orange Bowl and the notoriety from that to Jordan. I thought some of that may carry over into more public admiration of Justin. It didn’t. No crime. Super excited for Bowers and Fletcher.

There is no drama or overeaction... Justin Lynch 's recruitment, from N.I.U should have been handled differently from day one due to what he brings to the table based on his high school performance this far, and his brother's connection to Northern Illinois University.

(02-04-2020 11:49 AM)Big Red Wrote:  Are we "discussing" every single recruit that chooses another school in this same way (or in any way at all)?

Except this is a unique situation different from every single other recruit.

(02-04-2020 11:49 AM)Big Red Wrote:  nothing NIU could have (or should have) done differently.

Western Michigan offered before NIU. If you're a QB recruit whose brother/coach went to NY as a Heisman Finalist after taking the local school to the Orange Bowl, getting offered by a rival before that school is noted. It comes off as hesitation. It's not the fact NIU lost the recruiting process that's being contested, it's the unforced error. No one should know this recruit better than NIU - it's an NIU family member.

(02-04-2020 11:49 AM)Big Red Wrote:  And being first wouldn't have made a difference.

Justin Lynch himself claims it was important. It was the second thing he mentioned.

Quote:"Temple was the first school to offer me. They are the first school to give me a shot to play at the next level so that loyalty for me was also important."

This seems like a lot of conversation over something that shouldn’t be a surprise. Lynch isn’t a system fit here. That’s not the type of QB Hammock and company have been recruiting. Temple is a system fit and the coach his brother played and coached for is there.

Pretty simple.

This isn't really that big of a deal. Maybe the kid is good maybe not. But no he shouldn't be offered a scholarship based on who his brother is. Maybe this staff liked other Quarterbacks better who told them no before they decided to offer Justin. Who knows why they waited to offer? Maybe other schools only offered because of Jordan. Again, who knows? Maybe the kid just really likes Temple. Be happy that this staff is looking to bring in a quality QB or two every year.

Justin isn't the first QB to not go to the school his brother went to. I doubt Iowa beat down Clay Beathad's (RIP) door. Tom Flacco didn't pick Delaware and Pitt didn't offer. It happens.

Good luck to Justin Lynch. I hope he does well. Hopefully the guys who decide to play here are good players as well.

(02-04-2020 03:34 PM)The Grinch Wrote:  This isn't really that big of a deal. Maybe the kid is good maybe not. But no he shouldn't be offered a scholarship based on who his brother is. Maybe this staff liked other Quarterbacks better who told them no before they decided to offer Justin. Who knows why they waited to offer? Maybe other schools only offered because of Jordan. Again, who knows? Maybe the kid just really likes Temple. Be happy that this staff is looking to bring in a quality QB or two every year.

Justin isn't the first QB to not go to the school his brother went to. I doubt Iowa beat down Clay Beathad's (RIP) door. Tom Flacco didn't pick Delaware and Pitt didn't offer. It happens.

Good luck to Justin Lynch. I hope he does well. Hopefully the guys who decide to play here are good players as well.

+1

Well, that's pretty bad. The GRINCH is telling us to relax.