XLance
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RE: 10 years from now, do you think the AAC will be recognized as a “Power” conference?
(02-02-2020 05:31 PM)JRsec Wrote: (02-02-2020 12:51 PM)XLance Wrote: (02-01-2020 02:19 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: (02-01-2020 01:21 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: If the Big12 does not get picked apart, then they would still be a “Power” conference or whatever the term is in that day. If the best schools are picked off, I think the AAC would be in a better position to pick who they want of the remaining schools that would likely consist of KSU, ISU, TTU, Baylor, TCU, WVU. I think the MWC would be in more danger, than the AAC. Besides ESPN is going to want to protect their property, which could see a pay bump and contract extension during that time.
2 huge rules of conference realignment:
(1) Sh*t ALWAYS rolls downhill in conference realignment.
(2) Think like a university president, NOT like a fan.
First, the old Big East thought exactly the way that you did - that if the Pac-16 happened, then they could take the Big 12 leftovers and become stronger.
The old Big East quickly found out that if you’re behind another conference today, you CANNOT leapfrog then. Ultimately, the old Big East was crushed and eventually kicked out of the power structure altogether. Similarly, C-USA thought that they could poach the remnants of the old Big East... and then C-USA got crushed. We can go down the line where the WAC has similar delusions of grandeur of poaching a weakened MWC... and the WAC up getting destroyed entirely. Rest assured, even if the Big 12 collapsed, left behind schools like Iowa State would still have the massive upper hand to poach the AAC and other leagues because they’ll have all of the exit fees, old conference distributions from the NCAA Tournament and bowl games, existing TV contracts and other assets that would dwarf the G5. Sh*t ALWAYS runs downhill in conference realignment.
Second, university presidents make the decisions about who they let into the power structure. On-the-field/court results by themselves aren’t enough: they want the right *institutions* (NOT teams). I’ve said this before, but for all of the changes in conference realignment over the past 20 years, there were 63 “power” schools when the BCS started in 1996... and there is now a grand total of 65 power schools today. After all of that shuffling, the net change was that TCU (who was in the power system in the pre-BCS world), Utah and Louisville got elevated and Temple got downgraded. That’s it: a net change of plus 2. The point is that the system will NOT elevate an entire other conference to the power ranks. That’s simply not happening because we have seen that there is remarkable stasis with the membership of who is a power school and who isn’t.
Power *institutions* are largely flagship schools, other major public schools with flagship-like qualities (such as Texas A&M, UCLA, Michigan State, Purdue, etc.) and some top tier privates with key attributes (such as top academics and/or locations in major markets). There are zero directional public schools in the Power Five and thowe only true “city” public school in the power ranks is Louisville. (A school like Pitt is essentially a flagship-like research institution that happens to be in a city.) It might sound crazy to sports fans, but the two schools in the AAC that actually look the most like P5 *institutions* (which are different than teams) are Tulane and SMU. Otherwise, the core of the AAC is made up of city and directional public schools. We might see a couple of those schools get invites to the Big 12 eventually (e.g. I could see Cincinnati plus Texas politics getting Houston into the Big 12 someday), but there’s no way that the entire league gets elevated. University presidents are possibly the single most elitist and snobby group of people in all of America.
In the early 60's Vanderbilt spearheaded an attempt to form what came to be known as the Magnolia League. It included Duke, Vanderbilt, SMU, Tulane and Rice. Duke didn't want to give up the Carolina rivalry and SMU and Rice didn't want to give up Cotton Bowl. The impetus for that type of league still exists, and as the money grows, the schools that are of the "Magnolia" mindset may still be looking to cluster together.
For consideration:
New Magnolia:
Boston College, Syracuse, UVa, Duke, Carolina, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech and Miami
Notre Dame, Northwestern, Pitt, Vanderbilt, Tulane, SMU, Baylor, and TCU.
That leaves 51 schools to be divided into three conferences (16, 16, 15 ?)
What it leaves are 5 schools from the ACC to be placed: Virginia Tech, N.C. State, Clemson, Florida State and Louisville. And it leaves 8 schools from the Big 12 to be placed.
The SEC would be at 13, the Big 10 at 13, AAC at 10 and needing to replace UConn too, and the PAC at 12.
SEC: N.C. State, Clemson, Florida State
PAC: Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State.
B!G: Kansas, Iowa State, Virginia Tech
AAC: Kansas State, West Virginia, Louisville, Brigham Young, Army and Air Force, Boise State.
The champions of the Big 10, PAC and SEC get an auto bid and the champions of the Magnolia plays the champion of the AAC for the play into the CFP.
Now you can have your Magnolia League with a caveat and the AAC can have access and all of those schools constitute the upper division.
Well, I see we are back to Texahoma going back to the west coast. I think you are correct in that it's the only way to make the PAC relevant on the national stage in the long run.
I like VT going to the B1G....
It probably would be best to demote a few of the Magnolia teams to the AAC if you think everyone should be included
Magnolia:
BC, Syracuse, Pitt, Duke, Northwestern, Miami
UVa, Carolina, Tulane, Wake Forest, GT, Vanderbilt
Notre Dame stays a partial to the Magnolia
AAC
Louisville, Cincinnati, Temple, West Virginia, East Carolina, Navy, Army
USF, Houston, TCU, SMU, Baylor, Tulsa, UCF
Air Force, Boise State and BYU remain as they are.
Champions only....with three "wild card" teams going to the highest rated regardless of conference that are not champions.
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