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RE: 2020 BASEBALL
(02-16-2020 02:20 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 08:44 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(02-13-2020 09:41 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(02-13-2020 09:30 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  
(02-13-2020 09:00 AM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  I disagree with the state of our facility. With the exception of some modest upgrades the stadium is much the same as it was in the 1990's. It is not bad, but I am sure Rice and others have much better baseball facilities.

Most of the CUSA schools are located in the Deep South where baseball is much more dominant than it is here. I would say that baseball is likely more popular, and better attended than is basketball at many CUSA schools. As far as Rice, they have been to eight College World Series, and won a National Championship in 2003. Rice is a baseball school. Look at the thread on this board titled “Where are your priorities?” and you will see that ODU’s investment into baseball is commensurate (or better) with interest in the program.

It is definitely a facility that matches fan support. But could the fan support improve with a better fan experience?

ODU has three things working against it:
1. No baseball culture this far north (you can overcome it as Virginia has, but they're also Virginia)
2. A minor-league team in town that commands a lot more attention
3. Few baseball-weather days in-season. OOC is usually a cold shitshow, but it can be uncomfortable for a 2-3 hour game even in April and early May. If baseball ever switched to a spring/summer schedule, it would help but I think even then there's limits to how far any mid-major baseball program in the Mid-Atlantic can go.

Cool. None of that means we can't improve our support.

Awesome. At no point did I say that we couldn't.

But you asked if fan experience informs fan support, and I made the case that they're dealing with a lot of factors out of their control. They're not insurmountable obstacles but they're definitely obstacles. Nobody in Virginia except UVA draws well at all, and that's not a coincidence.

And ODU's not exactly playing in a sandlot. VCU has to share the shambling wreck of a Diamond with the Flying Squirrels, nestled between the Greyhound station and I-95 miles from campus. Richmond's field doesn't have lights. ODU, UVA and Liberty are the only dedicated college-baseball facilities in the state that can seat more than 2,000.

My educated guess is that any real increase in fan support is going to come from winning a ton more than any facility/gameday experience improvements.
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RE: 2020 BASEBALL
(02-16-2020 02:34 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(02-16-2020 02:20 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 08:44 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(02-13-2020 09:41 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(02-13-2020 09:30 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  Most of the CUSA schools are located in the Deep South where baseball is much more dominant than it is here. I would say that baseball is likely more popular, and better attended than is basketball at many CUSA schools. As far as Rice, they have been to eight College World Series, and won a National Championship in 2003. Rice is a baseball school. Look at the thread on this board titled “Where are your priorities?” and you will see that ODU’s investment into baseball is commensurate (or better) with interest in the program.

It is definitely a facility that matches fan support. But could the fan support improve with a better fan experience?

ODU has three things working against it:
1. No baseball culture this far north (you can overcome it as Virginia has, but they're also Virginia)
2. A minor-league team in town that commands a lot more attention
3. Few baseball-weather days in-season. OOC is usually a cold shitshow, but it can be uncomfortable for a 2-3 hour game even in April and early May. If baseball ever switched to a spring/summer schedule, it would help but I think even then there's limits to how far any mid-major baseball program in the Mid-Atlantic can go.

Cool. None of that means we can't improve our support.

Awesome. At no point did I say that we couldn't.

But you asked if fan experience informs fan support, and I made the case that they're dealing with a lot of factors out of their control. They're not insurmountable obstacles but they're definitely obstacles. Nobody in Virginia except UVA draws well at all, and that's not a coincidence.

And ODU's not exactly playing in a sandlot. VCU has to share the shambling wreck of a Diamond with the Flying Squirrels, nestled between the Greyhound station and I-95 miles from campus. Richmond's field doesn't have lights. ODU, UVA and Liberty are the only dedicated college-baseball facilities in the state that can seat more than 2,000.

My educated guess is that any real increase in fan support is going to come from winning a ton more than any facility/gameday experience improvements.

Liberty and UVA also offer a much better fan experience than ODU does currently.

We have a park that has uncomfortable metal bleachers that don't react well to cold or hot temps. We have a concession stand that isn't very inviting. And we have stands that should be easier to maneuver.

Connect the three sides, improve the seating, add an awning and improve the seating and you have made a ballpark that will encourage all those fans who only come out on nights, weekends or during special promotions to come more often.

The other issue is promotion. When we promote the games, fans show up. This is proven by the annual bark in the park event drawing twice as much as most games. If we even try to promote the program, we will see an increase. But we don't really promote them at all.

Promotion could help drawing in fans who go to Tides games as well. They are much more expensive. We can use that against them and draw in families trying to enjoy a day of baseball on a budget.
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RE: 2020 BASEBALL
ODU sweeps Towson, with a 11-0 shutout today. This after shutting them out yesterday 0-5. Good start.
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