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RE: MBB Game #23 - Northeastern (Green Out)
6 for 38 from three, over the last two games...32 misses from 3. This really needs to change. We are not going to be able to depend on Nate manufacturing a win every night, especially if teams stop worrying about our outside game.

It would be a bit different, if we could say "wait till we get back to the Kap, then we'll shoot better". This is ALL in the Kap, the place where they shoot at these rims, with this shooting backdrop, every day.

A win is a win, ugly or not, but a trend is a trend, and this one is definitely ugly. I hope it changes on Saturday.
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(01-30-2020 10:11 PM)tribelifer Wrote:  6 for 38 from three, over the last two games...32 misses from 3. This really needs to change. We are not going to be able to depend on Nate manufacturing a win every night, especially if teams stop worrying about our outside game.

It would be a bit different, if we could say "wait till we get back to the Kap, then we'll shoot better". This is ALL in the Kap, the place where they shoot at these rims, with this shooting backdrop, every day.

A win is a win, ugly or not, but a trend is a trend, and this one is definitely ugly. I hope it changes on Saturday.
Yeah this concerns me a lot. Especially if it's an adjustment opponents are making and not just a couple of bad nights. Right now I still think it's the latter.

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(01-30-2020 09:57 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  Wow. Props to Dane. Clearly we made some sort of halftime adjustment on Roland. Tough, gutty win for the team.

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I don't think we made much of an adjustment, just maybe having Luke be more aggressive trying to get through screens. There were many times in the second half when Roland was trying to turn the corner on a dribble drive and get into the lane where Luke fought past the screen and beat him to the spot. It was a defensive performance that you show to people to illustrate how to recover and move your feet to get back in front instead of fouling from behind.
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Ugly ugly win -- but way way better than a loss.

Can't say that we didn't deserve to win (we did score one more point than them, after all) but, yes, we certainly could have and probably should have lost this game.

Knight's big play was the game winner and Loewe's trey was the table setter -- but the free throws were what set us up for the win. We hit 19-22 (86.4%) and they hit only 7-14 (50%, whereas they usually shoot 80% and were apparently the second best FT shooting team in the nation). You can bet that Coen and Northeastern fans are certainly pointing to that as the difference maker.

(01-30-2020 09:51 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  ... Coen clearly took notes from our Towson game and had his guys all over us defensively. Teams have been able to get us out of our offense now that they have film; Coach Fischer's first real challenge is figuring out wrinkles to add to our offense to overcome that style of defense.

It seemed like we were aggressive so that we'd get a 2 for 1, maybe hoping to catch them expecting us to hold for the last shot. It resulted in a bad shot from Nate, but I like what I hope was the strategy behind it. The 2 for 1 is a lost art in college basketball.

Concerning our offense: yes, the other teams have scoped us out. They have learned that Hermanovskis has only one shot (a trey from the corner) which lately he has shot only once in the last three games. If he isn't already set up in his spot then he will 100% be passing the ball. They know that Hamilton and Barnes also do not shoot jump shots, only layups. They know that Scott is either on or off and if he is off then you don't need to worry about him. They know that if Van Vliet starts off hot then watch out but if he starts out cold then that is a lot of good rebounding opportunities for the opponents. So that leaves Knight and Loewe as the only two reliable scoring options (and Ayesa in a limited role off the bench). So double or triple team Knight and challenge Loewe to beat you.

I agree about the 2-for-1. I also agree that it wasn't Nate's best shot. Right before he shot, he hesitated for a nanosecond because somebody was open on the right wing (AVV or Loewe, I think). I actually thought that Nate would pass it to him for a better shot.

These are the games that teams must win if they want to have a championship season. Games where you don't play your best, where you could/should lose, but where you stick with it, play good D, and defend your home court. Losing today would have basically negated the big win in Boston. For those same reasons, we must win again on Saturday against Hofstra. A 3-1 homestand is good; a 2-2 homestand would be disappointing.
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We have scored less than 60 points In three of last four games.
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(01-30-2020 10:11 PM)tribelifer Wrote:  6 for 38 from three, over the last two games...32 misses from 3.

Quick, somebody check to see if Burchfield has any more eligibility!!!
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MBB Game #23 - Northeastern (Green Out)
Northeastern is a tough team. Not a lot of offensive fire power outside of Roland but their defense is really strong. We beat them tonight and that’s all that matters to me! Do not want to play them again this year.

Great game by Quinn. Great 2nd half defense by Loewe. Great last 7 seconds by Dane and Nate.

Why doesn’t Knight do more down low in the first half?

Why didn’t Ayesa see the floor at all in the 2nd half when we couldn’t hit anything from the outside?

Why has Scott stopped shooting his in-the-lane floater, which was a nice add to his repertoire at the beginning of the season?

Let’s get our outside shooting turned around and take it hard to Hofstra.







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Student section was awesome again tonight! When we started our second half run the students added great atmosphere to the game and lower student section remained standing for most of the last 10+ minutes of the game.
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Upon reflection, the best thing about the win is the senior leadership shown by Nathan Knight. He wanted the ball all that second half; he wanted to take that last shot - and the play was called for him. He put the team on his back and said "follow me". That's what seniors are supposed to do. That is what senior Players of the Year definitely do!

I have also noticed that Andy Van Vliet displays some of this, too. Especially when Knight is out of the game, AVV steps up and expects to be the focal point. He wants the ball and he'll take the tough shot. So, good senior leadership from him, too!

Edit: By the way, I am really looking forward to the senior leadership that Luke Loewe will display next year. He is practically a senior already!
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Highlight of the last shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU_qfFt00GA
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Reminiscent of 02/17/18 with Knight doing a Pusica.

I wonder how NE fans are treating Coen right now.
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It wasn't pretty, at all.

But man, if you were there in the student section, that's the best game I've ever been to (Towson was fun, but... we lost). Some of you guys might have heard the shenanigans and chants in the hallway as the students left. We have a fun few weeks coming up. Crowds should be good, football players seem to have the top left of the student section on lock for chants and stuff too. Even if this isn't "the year", a lot of students (at least in my circle) are having a good time.

10/10. Messy, but man it was a blast.
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Whew. Pulled that win out of a hat. Great call and execution to win it.

NU has to be bedside itself. .500 with so many close losses.

Top 5 all winners last game - bottom 5 all lost. We are 1 game ahead and have some tough matchups on the horizon.

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I know Nate's layup was the play of the game. My favorite play was the defensive sequence where Luke hounded the ball handler out front and wound up with the strip.
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(01-31-2020 04:08 AM)mrjoolius Wrote:  I know Nate's layup was the play of the game. My favorite play was the defensive sequence where Luke hounded the ball handler out front and wound up with the strip.


+1. His enthusiasm and energy
was off the chart


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What a call by Dane to win the game!! Just send a 6-10, 240 pound runaway express train about 89 feet right down the middle of the court in 5.3 seconds (there were 6.8 left when Nate got the ball and 1.5 remaining when he scored). Perhaps some math major on the board can figure out how fast Nate was going. The crowd roaring and your big guy is making the big time play!

Sure our shooting stunk..but we won because of sensational second half defense and terrific foul shooting to go with Knight's memorable dash down the middle. That was a physical, gritty, hard contested ballgame between two tough teams and we found a way to win.

And Quinn had a hardscrabble terrific blue collar game.

Another good crowd, just under 3500, with folks really into the game. Students were great. We'll approach 5000 Saturday for Hofstra.
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I think our struggles on offense the last couple of games have to do with Scott not getting into the offense. 64 minutes, 2 points, 3 assists. Those aren't close to what he's been averaging. I haven't paid attention to see if teams are focusing on him or he's just been unlucky in terms of getting open looks. It might be that he's better on offense when he plays point, but that doesn't make sense given how he started the season as the off guard. We need him to get back into the flow. IMO, he's a real offensive weapon, and we need that badly when Van Vliet and Loewe aren't having a good game.
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(01-30-2020 11:29 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  Highlight of the last shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU_qfFt00GA

What was NE's #20 doing? Why didn't he step in front of Nate and take the charge?
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(01-30-2020 11:29 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  Highlight of the last shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU_qfFt00GA

#20 for Northeastern has to walk into the ocean for his effort on that play. Woof.
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Not easy to step in front of a 6-10, 240 pound locomotive coming at full speed right at you. Yes he should have, but perhaps Nate had the angle
and would have been fouled.

Frankly, I believe NE was stunned by the unlikely play and just could not react. And watch Nate dribble on the play...nothing like a 6-10 point guard!
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