You never know. The northern counties of California tried to secede from California and create their own state: Jefferson. The movement failed, but there is a Jefferson State Fair to this day in northern California.

(01-28-2020 03:47 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Everyone: This ASun thing is the wildest expansion news we've heard in years!
Jerry Falwell Jr.: Hold my sweet tea

https://wset.com/news/local/vexit-west-v...join-state

Quote:At a press conference Tuesday with West Virginia Governor Jim Justice and Liberty University President Jerry Falwell, they announced that legislation has been passed to reiterate the 158-year-old invitation stands for any locality in Virginia.

Now he doesn't say "college athletics" explicitly but reading between the lines with my David St-brand reading glasses, it's pretty obvious the long game is to invite 9 to 11 schools and their surrounding communities to West Virginia, then merge its constitution with the ASun charter to create the nation's first conference-state. Presumably WVU and Morgantown move to Pennsylvania in this scenario.

This might also open the door to the Great Northern State, but that's getting ahead of ourselves.

That's not the way I read it. I read it more like Falwell Jr. wants Lynchburg in state of West Virginia. That's exactly how I read it.

Buy if you seriously want to do conference states, maybe the state of California could swallow up the eastern portion of Virginia. Would make some sense as culturally both areas are wealthy and strongholds of the Democrat Party. UVa could join the Pac 12.

And while we're at it, let's have Texas swallow up all of the states that make up the SEC, while Ohio swallows up all of the states that make up the Big Ten.

(Just trying to make this line of thinking really jump the shark(s).

(01-29-2020 03:44 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  And while we're at it, let's have Texas swallow up all of the states that make up the SEC, while Ohio swallows up all of the states that make up the Big Ten.

Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, yeah sure.

But not Michigan. We don't give a damn about the whole state of Michigan.

(01-29-2020 03:44 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(01-28-2020 03:47 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Everyone: This ASun thing is the wildest expansion news we've heard in years!
Jerry Falwell Jr.: Hold my sweet tea

https://wset.com/news/local/vexit-west-v...join-state

Quote:At a press conference Tuesday with West Virginia Governor Jim Justice and Liberty University President Jerry Falwell, they announced that legislation has been passed to reiterate the 158-year-old invitation stands for any locality in Virginia.

Now he doesn't say "college athletics" explicitly but reading between the lines with my David St-brand reading glasses, it's pretty obvious the long game is to invite 9 to 11 schools and their surrounding communities to West Virginia, then merge its constitution with the ASun charter to create the nation's first conference-state. Presumably WVU and Morgantown move to Pennsylvania in this scenario.

This might also open the door to the Great Northern State, but that's getting ahead of ourselves.

That's not the way I read it. I read it more like Falwell Jr. wants Lynchburg in state of West Virginia. That's exactly how I read it.

Buy if you seriously want to do conference states, maybe the state of California could swallow up the eastern portion of Virginia. Would make some sense as culturally both areas are wealthy and strongholds of the Democrat Party. UVa could join the Pac 12.

And while we're at it, let's have Texas swallow up all of the states that make up the SEC, while Ohio swallows up all of the states that make up the Big Ten.

(Just trying to make this line of thinking really jump the shark(s).

Well, I think he was joking but no VA counties will opt to join WVA. Unless they want to pay higher taxes for less local funding. Especially Lynchburg (which is actually a city in Campbell County) which is at least a hundred miles from the nearest point of the WVA border.

Other than the continued general VA conservative drama queen response to losing the VA assembly for the first time in several decades, Falwell's jumping on this is mostly related to legislation that would eliminate student aid to students enrolled in private online programs.

(01-28-2020 06:22 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-28-2020 04:08 PM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(01-28-2020 03:47 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Everyone: This ASun thing is the wildest expansion news we've heard in years!
Jerry Falwell Jr.: Hold my sweet tea

https://wset.com/news/local/vexit-west-v...join-state

Quote:At a press conference Tuesday with West Virginia Governor Jim Justice and Liberty University President Jerry Falwell, they announced that legislation has been passed to reiterate the 158-year-old invitation stands for any locality in Virginia.

Now he doesn't say "college athletics" explicitly but reading between the lines with my David St-brand reading glasses, it's pretty obvious the long game is to invite 9 to 11 schools and their surrounding communities to West Virginia, then merge its constitution with the ASun charter to create the nation's first conference-state. Presumably WVU and Morgantown move to Pennsylvania in this scenario.

This might also open the door to the Great Northern State, but that's getting ahead of ourselves.

I watched that press conference. And wow LOL.

If such a thing happened Virginia Tech, James Madison and Liberty could end up in West Virginia.

Not gonna happen. Falwell is doing this because of Virginia TAX payers' money is going towards Liberty's online courses which the money being used on out of state students that do not benefit the people that lives in the state. This could be bad news for red states as well. The people of Fayetteville, Fort Smith, Jonesboro, Jacksonville, Pine Bluff and other places in Arkansas that have a stronghold of Democrats could vote to break away from the state. Same thing in Oklahoma, Florida, Texas, Missouri, Kansas, and so fourth.

A cluster of center cities spread around the state does not a state make.

Splitting Arkansas was considered during the secession crisis. The state held a secession convention and the elected representatives voted to remain in the Union despite Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi have already seceded.

The representatives from the southeast and upper delta then proposed the state be split roughly from the NE corner to the SW corner so the planters could join the Confederacy. Got shipped to a committee that never bothered meeting and the whole thing was over and done with until the shooting started and faced with fighting the convention voted to secede.

(01-26-2020 08:04 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  I've been trying to make sense of this. It doesn't seem like reshuffling ASun/Big South/Southern is the goal. That could be done easily.

The conference with the most public disagreement the last expansion was the Colonial.

Could JMU, Delaware, William & Mary and possibly others want to add Stoney Brook and Albany? Then possibly ETSU or Youngstown St? I guess they could keep Richmond and Villanova football.

Not sure of the exact mix but there are some public FCS schools that would be on par with MAC/Sunbelt/ CUSA that are stuck in conferences with small privates.

I missed it, what was the disagreement?