(03-08-2020 01:55 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(03-07-2020 03:03 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Any conference with 16 schools that has a continuity group of seven schools for eight years can be split under the rules.

If you haven't read the Division 1 Manual since 2011, when the above rule was replaced by the conference having run a compliant Division 1 BBall competition for eight years, you are not really in a position to lecture David State on his shaky relationship with facts.

If the old continuity rule was still in force, the WAC would have lost its auto-bid until just recently, since it didn't have seven teams that had played together for eight or more years.

I have read the rules. One half doesn't need any continuity, such as the American. The Big East had continuity.

You and johnbragg can take your lies someplace else.

The Big East has done almost exactly what the ASun proposes, and no Blue Blooded book will be taken out.

Not saying the Big East didn't influence the rules before it happened, but the rules were in place before the split.

(03-08-2020 02:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-08-2020 01:55 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(03-07-2020 03:03 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Any conference with 16 schools that has a continuity group of seven schools for eight years can be split under the rules.

If you haven't read the Division 1 Manual since 2011, when the above rule was replaced by the conference having run a compliant Division 1 BBall competition for eight years, you are not really in a position to lecture David State on his shaky relationship with facts.

If the old continuity rule was still in force, the WAC would have lost its auto-bid until just recently, since it didn't have seven teams that had played together for eight or more years.

I have read the rules. One half doesn't need any continuity, such as the American. The Big East had continuity.

You and johnbragg can take your lies someplace else.

The Big East has done almost exactly what the ASun proposes, and no Blue Blooded book will be taken out.

NCAA did not want a bunch of orphans, and only waived the rules to help some established P5 schools to have a conference after they lost most of the schools from being raided. The Big Least football and non-football should have split before 2000. The football schools would not have been raided after 2000, but they may have gotten schools like Maryland and Penn. State and the AAC would still be a P6 conference.

(03-08-2020 12:08 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-08-2020 02:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-08-2020 01:55 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(03-07-2020 03:03 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Any conference with 16 schools that has a continuity group of seven schools for eight years can be split under the rules.

If you haven't read the Division 1 Manual since 2011, when the above rule was replaced by the conference having run a compliant Division 1 BBall competition for eight years, you are not really in a position to lecture David State on his shaky relationship with facts.

If the old continuity rule was still in force, the WAC would have lost its auto-bid until just recently, since it didn't have seven teams that had played together for eight or more years.

I have read the rules. One half doesn't need any continuity, such as the American. The Big East had continuity.

You and johnbragg can take your lies someplace else.

The Big East has done almost exactly what the ASun proposes, and no Blue Blooded book will be taken out.

NCAA did not want a bunch of orphans, and only waived the rules to help some established P5 schools to have a conference after they lost most of the schools from being raided. The Big Least football and non-football should have split before 2000. The football schools would not have been raided after 2000, but they may have gotten schools like Maryland and Penn. State and the AAC would still be a P6 conference.

Again, you've proven that your incapable of reading, just spout nonsense.

(03-04-2020 02:48 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 01:35 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 12:54 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:11 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(03-02-2020 04:31 PM)NoDak Wrote:  All 30 have to give the OK, including the ASun moveups. The CAA bans exiting teams from conference tournaments.

All they'd be doing (for now) is announcing their FBS intentions, ala Coastal Carolina in 2015. Until they'd find a new home they would still be members of the CAA. If moving to the FBS ranks is so lucrative, those teams leaving the CAA shouldn't care so much about being banned for one year from the conference tournaments.

But that's out east. What's the harm for the California schools to announce their intentions? What's the Big Sky and Big West going to do, kick them out early?? They got nothing to worry about. Of course then the MWC could invite UC Davis or Cal Poly, which would deal a blow to your WAC revival.

Think the exit requirements have changed for the CAA:. two season notice and $1million. The $1 million can't be avoided, but announcing now would result in major bb punishment. It makes sense to avoid losing one CAA tournament. Some of the teams are only CAAF members so the requirements are not too bad.

Agree that the MWC might be interested in Davis, but only after they have been FBS. The MWC would try to poach a CuSA Texas team first, like Rice, UTSA or UNT.

IMHO, the Big West has known of the football schools departures when they added UCSD and Bake.

When saying you're heading out the door, you usually don't wait two plus years before actually leaving. The addition was announced in November 2017. Those football schools will still be members when UCSD and Bake join in July.

UCSD still has to transition.

So? A Davis transition didn't stop Utah State and Idaho from leaving. Of course those two made it publicly known years before then they wanted all sports in one roof. So again, what harm does it do for the California schools to announce their FBS ambitions if they have any?

(03-08-2020 03:06 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 02:48 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 01:35 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 12:54 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:11 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  All they'd be doing (for now) is announcing their FBS intentions, ala Coastal Carolina in 2015. Until they'd find a new home they would still be members of the CAA. If moving to the FBS ranks is so lucrative, those teams leaving the CAA shouldn't care so much about being banned for one year from the conference tournaments.

But that's out east. What's the harm for the California schools to announce their intentions? What's the Big Sky and Big West going to do, kick them out early?? They got nothing to worry about. Of course then the MWC could invite UC Davis or Cal Poly, which would deal a blow to your WAC revival.

Think the exit requirements have changed for the CAA:. two season notice and $1million. The $1 million can't be avoided, but announcing now would result in major bb punishment. It makes sense to avoid losing one CAA tournament. Some of the teams are only CAAF members so the requirements are not too bad.

Agree that the MWC might be interested in Davis, but only after they have been FBS. The MWC would try to poach a CuSA Texas team first, like Rice, UTSA or UNT.

IMHO, the Big West has known of the football schools departures when they added UCSD and Bake.

When saying you're heading out the door, you usually don't wait two plus years before actually leaving. The addition was announced in November 2017. Those football schools will still be members when UCSD and Bake join in July.

UCSD still has to transition.

So? A Davis transition didn't stop Utah State and Idaho from leaving. Of course those two made it publicly known years before then they wanted all sports in one roof. So again, what harm does it do for the California schools to announce their FBS ambitions if they have any?

You seem not to be able to grasp a simple business agreement. If Davis moved early, they would put themselves out there as a player, but the league wants and needs them for the transition

(03-08-2020 03:42 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-08-2020 03:06 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 02:48 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 01:35 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 12:54 AM)NoDak Wrote:  Think the exit requirements have changed for the CAA:. two season notice and $1million. The $1 million can't be avoided, but announcing now would result in major bb punishment. It makes sense to avoid losing one CAA tournament. Some of the teams are only CAAF members so the requirements are not too bad.

Agree that the MWC might be interested in Davis, but only after they have been FBS. The MWC would try to poach a CuSA Texas team first, like Rice, UTSA or UNT.

IMHO, the Big West has known of the football schools departures when they added UCSD and Bake.

When saying you're heading out the door, you usually don't wait two plus years before actually leaving. The addition was announced in November 2017. Those football schools will still be members when UCSD and Bake join in July.

UCSD still has to transition.

So? A Davis transition didn't stop Utah State and Idaho from leaving. Of course those two made it publicly known years before then they wanted all sports in one roof. So again, what harm does it do for the California schools to announce their FBS ambitions if they have any?

You seem not to be able to grasp a simple business agreement. If Davis moved early, they would put themselves out there as a player, but the league wants and needs them for the transition

The league wants them to stay, but does not need Davis or Cal Poly for the transition. It would still be stable at nine members. So declare the FBS ambitions proudly and remain members until that opportunity presents itself.

Like Coastal Carolina did.