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Atlantic Sun with a bold expansion plan
https://asunsports.org/general/2019-20/r...0122lh6utq

Mark this one in one to watch. It's a bit confusing but basically the ASun believes they have found a way to split their conference so that no one loses an auto bid

Step 1: The 10 team Atlantic Sun expands to 20 by 2023
Step 2: The core ASun 7 (Florida Gulf Coast, North Florida, Jacksonville, Stetson, Kennesaw St, Lipscomb, NJIT) move all their sports to what is now the CCSA Swimming Conference.
Step 3: The CCSA will become a multisport conference, rename itself Atantic Sun and be eligible for auto bid since the ASun 7 will be apart of it
Step 4: The 3 schools left behind: Liberty, North Alabama, and Belleramine plus they added schools will play together in a new conference that will supposedly be entitled to auto bids

Sounds a little far fetched to me, but with the talk of how the CAA just doesnt work anymore it seemed relevant
01-22-2020 08:13 PM
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RE: Atlantic Sun with a bold expansion plan
(01-22-2020 08:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  https://asunsports.org/general/2019-20/r...0122lh6utq

Mark this one in one to watch. It's a bit confusing but basically the ASun believes they have found a way to split their conference so that no one loses an auto bid

Step 1: The 10 team Atlantic Sun expands to 20 by 2023
Step 2: The core ASun 7 (Florida Gulf Coast, North Florida, Jacksonville, Stetson, Kennesaw St, Lipscomb, NJIT) move all their sports to what is now the CCSA Swimming Conference.
Step 3: The CCSA will become a multisport conference, rename itself Atantic Sun and be eligible for auto bid since the ASun 7 will be apart of it
Step 4: The 3 schools left behind: Liberty, North Alabama, and Belleramine plus they added schools will play together in a new conference that will supposedly be entitled to auto bids

Sounds a little far fetched to me, but with the talk of how the CAA just doesnt work anymore it seemed relevant

It always seems impossible until it is done. ASUN must have found a commissioner and ADs not worried about their next jobs. Might be liberating.
01-22-2020 08:26 PM
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RE: Atlantic Sun with a bold expansion plan
So are they going to have to call up a ton of D2 schools for this to work? It seems like this has a lot of moving parts
01-23-2020 12:02 AM
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(01-23-2020 12:02 AM)TDenverFan Wrote:  So are they going to have to call up a ton of D2 schools for this to work? It seems like this has a lot of moving parts

They are probably hoping targeting some current D1 teams
01-23-2020 12:57 AM
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Bold move, but that conference SUCKS. Looks like UNCW ia already a member of the CCSA for beach volleyball.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastal_Co...ssociation
01-23-2020 05:33 AM
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RE: Atlantic Sun with a bold expansion plan
(01-22-2020 08:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  https://asunsports.org/general/2019-20/r...0122lh6utq

Mark this one in one to watch. It's a bit confusing but basically the ASun believes they have found a way to split their conference so that no one loses an auto bid

Step 1: The 10 team Atlantic Sun expands to 20 by 2023
Step 2: The core ASun 7 (Florida Gulf Coast, North Florida, Jacksonville, Stetson, Kennesaw St, Lipscomb, NJIT) move all their sports to what is now the CCSA Swimming Conference.
Step 3: The CCSA will become a multisport conference, rename itself Atantic Sun and be eligible for auto bid since the ASun 7 will be apart of it
Step 4: The 3 schools left behind: Liberty, North Alabama, and Belleramine plus they added schools will play together in a new conference that will supposedly be entitled to auto bids

Sounds a little far fetched to me, but with the talk of how the CAA just doesnt work anymore it seemed relevant

I like the way they are thinking outside the box. And they seem to have precedent.
01-23-2020 09:48 AM
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Isnt this basically what happened, except in reverse, with the big east/aac where it kinda dissolved into 2 league but both kept auto bids since enough members stayed together or am I remembering things wrong?
01-23-2020 10:24 AM
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(01-23-2020 10:24 AM)dan10 Wrote:  Isnt this basically what happened, except in reverse, with the big east/aac where it kinda dissolved into 2 league but both kept auto bids since enough members stayed together or am I remembering things wrong?

Basically that is how it is being presented except instead of starting a new conference structure they are using the existing conference structure ofbthe CCSA to facilitate the 2nd conference and new autobid
01-23-2020 12:37 PM
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RE: Atlantic Sun with a bold expansion plan
The key factor seems to be the number of schools and the length of time they have to have been together.
01-23-2020 05:28 PM
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(01-23-2020 10:24 AM)dan10 Wrote:  Isnt this basically what happened, except in reverse, with the big east/aac where it kinda dissolved into 2 league but both kept auto bids since enough members stayed together or am I remembering things wrong?
In its first year in 2013-2014, the AAC was eighth in the Conference RPI, and it had three ranked teams. Number 5 Louisville went 31-6, Number 15 Cincinnati went 27-7, and Number 18 UConn went 32-8 and led with 8 wins over AP ranked teams. That includes the postseason. The past success or expected success of teams shouldn't let teams or conference get an exception to the rules, but media and fans would have complained if the NCAA didn't give the AAC in automatic bid. Louisville, who was a lock, won the AAC tournament, so the AAC would have gotten the same amount of bids without an automatic bid, but it still would have been strange to not have given the AAC an automatic bid.

What teams would join the Atlantic Sun and not consider it going to a worse conference? Would anybody leave the Big South or Ohio Valley? Would any HBCUs leave the Mid-Eastern Athletic (MEAC) or Southwestern Athletic (SWAC)? Would a team in the eastern part of the Southland like Northwestern State or Southeastern Louisiana join?

Should the NCAA limit how many teams a conference can have? With 20 teams, there would need be be 20 conference games (round-robin makes 19 and a rival you place twice) in order to play every opponent.
01-27-2020 09:49 AM
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