(01-19-2020 09:27 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  

(01-19-2020 09:09 PM)emanoh Wrote:  All of this is huge for recruiting and we know they can coach.

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Has it ever been determined how many spots we have left in the 2020 class? Would be nice to bring in a couple good LBs and a couple more members for the OLine

Recruiting thread says we got an LB grad from ND.

Wow so UT really hired Craig Kuligowski...I remember a lot of you guys on here always mentioning his name whenever there was a coaching position open. Mizzou (15 years!), The U, Bama, that's an impressive resume.

I saw on Twitter that Coach "Kool' has produced 5 first-round picks since 2009. Also, he had interest from NFL teams.

Here's another cool tidbit...

(01-19-2020 11:32 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  Wow so UT really hired Craig Kuligowski...I remember a lot of you guys on here always mentioning his name whenever there was a coaching position open. Mizzou (15 years!), The U, Bama, that's an impressive resume.

I saw on Twitter that Coach "Kool' has produced 5 first-round picks since 2009. Also, he had interest from NFL teams.

Here's another cool tidbit...

Barton Simmons is awful on the cover 3 podcast.

(01-19-2020 07:41 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  I’m impressed. Some pretty solid hires by Candle this time around. Staff shouldn’t be a weakness next season, that’s for sure.

Echoing similar statements. We demanded Candle to hire solid guys to run the defense and it looks like he did just that. Very pleased

From the Toledo blade.

https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/ut/20...0200119167

OL coaching defense? Seems odd to me


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(01-19-2020 06:17 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  I'm starting to think Tampa Rocket is recruiting these coaches. Don't know how he knows Kehres, but we get his son's head coach and a former teammate.... Things that make you go hmmmm....

Ha...I wish I could take credit. I was pumped to see Coach Weiner added...adding Kool is icing on the cake. Definitely makes me want my son to consider that PWO opportunity...big things happening up there.

(01-20-2020 08:45 AM)TampaRocket Wrote:  

(01-19-2020 06:17 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  I'm starting to think Tampa Rocket is recruiting these coaches. Don't know how he knows Kehres, but we get his son's head coach and a former teammate.... Things that make you go hmmmm....

Ha...I wish I could take credit. I was pumped to see Coach Weiner added...adding Kool is icing on the cake. Definitely makes me want my son to consider that PWO opportunity...big things happening up there.

Think UT is looking at more than a MACC.

I have been thinking that Jason might have decided to take over the OC play calling duties because he is not only comfortable in that role but it would allow those funds to help hire other coaches. For example, if the OC makes $250,000 then that money could be used to help beef up the offers to get these recent hires.

(01-20-2020 08:32 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  OL coaching defense? Seems odd to me

It's actually not unusual. I'm sure he played OL and DL in high school, but good coaches are not usually good coaches because they played a particular position, and most good coaches are good at whatever position they end up coaching. I've seen OL or DL coach running backs before, for instance, and do it well.

26 yr old Charlie Weis Jr, USF's new OC has never played organized FB. Started breaking down game film at 13 yrs. At 18, he started his college coaching career. Always wanted to be a Coach.

(01-20-2020 08:32 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  OL coaching defense? Seems odd to me


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It kinda makes sense to me. Wouldn’t you know what works against you well enough to teach someone to use that technique? I don’t know but maybe

Have to believe the newest coach K is interested in becoming the next head coach at UT, or he doesn't take the job. I'm not saying he was promised anything, but he has to look at the salary Candle is getting, the responsibility of being the top guy at a Div. I school (that also happens to be his alma mater) and could look at it as the best path to get to where he wants to go - assuming he wants to be a head coach before he hangs up the whistle...

Just hope it turns out to be a good fit all the way around.

(01-20-2020 09:11 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  I have been thinking that Jason might have decided to take over the OC play calling duties because he is not only comfortable in that role but it would allow those funds to help hire other coaches. For example, if the OC makes $250,000 then that money could be used to help beef up the offers to get these recent hires.

The ex DC and OC's made $160,000 this past season.....

(01-20-2020 08:32 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  OL coaching defense? Seems odd to me


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Matt Campbell was a defensive end at Pitt and Mount Union and was the offensive coordinator before becoming a head coach.
Our current RB coach is Nate Cole a former defensive tackle at UT.

(01-20-2020 11:39 AM)UTerry Wrote:  

(01-20-2020 08:32 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  OL coaching defense? Seems odd to me


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Matt Campbell was a defensive end at Pitt and Mount Union and was the offensive coordinator before becoming a head coach.
Our current RB coach is Nate Cole a former defensive tackle at UT.

I believe Cole was a tackle on offense - and also a good example of an oxymoron...

(01-20-2020 09:16 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  

(01-20-2020 08:32 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  OL coaching defense? Seems odd to me

It's actually not unusual. I'm sure he played OL and DL in high school, but good coaches are not usually good coaches because they played a particular position, and most good coaches are good at whatever position they end up coaching. I've seen OL or DL coach running backs before, for instance, and do it well.

What he played in college is irrelevant. He has been coaching DL for and involved with Defensive game planing at he highest level in D1 football for 15 years! And has produced many highly drafted players!

so I did a quick lookup of the Alabama defense from 2017 to 2018 to see if there is anything indicating a reason for him being dismissed after one year at 'Bama and under a coach that was also his coach in college for his senior season. It is rare for anyone to be dismissed after one year based on performance unless it was glaringly poor and attributable to his coaching. Below indicates overall defense was worse than the prior year at Alabama - but not so bad as to indicate the DL coach would need to be fired. (can't figure out how to get the numbers lined up. Must have to copy and paste)

2017 2018
Points Allowed (per game) 11.9 18.1
Rushing yds allowed (net) 94.7 121.3
Rushing per attempt (net) 2.72 3.53
Passing yds per game 165.7 200.7
Sacks 27 15
3rd down conversions 34.6% 34.2%

The defensive coordinator at Alabama in 2017 was Jeremy Pruitt - who left in December 2017 to become the head coach at Tennessee. He would not have coached Kuligowski. The DC at Alabama in 2018 was Tosh Lupoi - he would have been there when Kuligowski was the defensive line coach. He left in January 2019 to become the defensive line coach for the Browns... Kuligowski was an associate head coach and the defensive line coach in 2018, not small responsibilities. He was the only associate head coach listed for 2018.

The defense was worse, but not that much worse. Could have been a factor in why the DC left - but doesn't seem to explain why Kuligowski would have been let go. The d-line lost 3 guys from 2017 - 2 went to the NFL (one early and the the other after graduation) The 3rd was a top back-up at 'Bama but did not make a roster in the NFL for very long.

Could be a number of things that ended up in losing his job. Stats don't seem to indicate the results were so bad that an immediate change needed to be made, but rapid personnel changes generally involve something other than performance issues. Can get "sideways" with someone that can impact your employment. Personality rubs with people having huge egos can also be dangerous to your career. Too many possibilities and will likely never come out since a severance was paid - which generally always include the stipulation that the terms or causes for the separation of employment cannot be discussed.

Did find the article linked below that does not say a whole lot other than Kuligowski was not expected to return after 1 year at Alabama. They obviously have a lot of money to throw at football and the coaching staff there. Paying nearly $1M in severance to a guy that was there for one year and had a very good reputation and record of success (and they paid a paltry $53K to get him out of his contract at Miami) seems crazy in the world of mid-majors.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabam...to-return/

(01-20-2020 07:01 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  

(01-19-2020 07:41 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  I’m impressed. Some pretty solid hires by Candle this time around. Staff shouldn’t be a weakness next season, that’s for sure.

Echoing similar statements. We demanded Candle to hire solid guys to run the defense and it looks like he did just that. Very pleased

I'm sure your "DEMANDS" had everything to do with Coach's decision

(01-20-2020 01:24 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  so I did a quick lookup of the Alabama defense from 2017 to 2018 to see if there is anything indicating a reason for him being dismissed after one year at 'Bama and under a coach that was also his coach in college for his senior season. It is rare for anyone to be dismissed after one year based on performance unless it was glaringly poor and attributable to his coaching. Below indicates overall defense was worse than the prior year at Alabama - but not so bad as to indicate the DL coach would need to be fired. (can't figure out how to get the numbers lined up. Must have to copy and paste)

2017 2018
Points Allowed (per game) 11.9 18.1
Rushing yds allowed (net) 94.7 121.3
Rushing per attempt (net) 2.72 3.53
Passing yds per game 165.7 200.7
Sacks 27 15
3rd down conversions 34.6% 34.2%

The defensive coordinator at Alabama in 2017 was Jeremy Pruitt - who left in December 2017 to become the head coach at Tennessee. He would not have coached Kuligowski. The DC at Alabama in 2018 was Tosh Lupoi - he would have been there when Kuligowski was the defensive line coach. He left in January 2019 to become the defensive line coach for the Browns... Kuligowski was an associate head coach and the defensive line coach in 2018, not small responsibilities. He was the only associate head coach listed for 2018.

The defense was worse, but not that much worse. Could have been a factor in why the DC left - but doesn't seem to explain why Kuligowski would have been let go. The d-line lost 3 guys from 2017 - 2 went to the NFL (one early and the the other after graduation) The 3rd was a top back-up at 'Bama but did not make a roster in the NFL for very long.

Could be a number of things that ended up in losing his job. Stats don't seem to indicate the results were so bad that an immediate change needed to be made, but rapid personnel changes generally involve something other than performance issues. Can get "sideways" with someone that can impact your employment. Personality rubs with people having huge egos can also be dangerous to your career. Too many possibilities and will likely never come out since a severance was paid - which generally always include the stipulation that the terms or causes for the separation of employment cannot be discussed.

Did find the article linked below that does not say a whole lot other than Kuligowski was not expected to return after 1 year at Alabama. They obviously have a lot of money to throw at football and the coaching staff there. Paying nearly $1M in severance to a guy that was there for one year and had a very good reputation and record of success (and they paid a paltry $53K to get him out of his contract at Miami) seems crazy in the world of mid-majors.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabam...to-return/

Alabama's Defensive numbers were worse in 2019 without Coach Kool.