The top 3 are pretty clear, #4 not so much.

My vote is NCSU. Sitting at 13-5 (4-3).

Sneaking up is SU 11-7 (4-3) with now 3 ACC wins a row. Their record is not as sexy as UVA, VT, ND or Pitt, but they are now on a hot streak and will not have to play the top 3 until Feb. 1 vs Duke.

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A basketball thread, try to keep up.

Current NET rankings, with movement following two games this week for everyone except Wake/BC, who each played once & play each other today.

6- Duke (down 4)
10- Louisville (up 5)
13- Florida St (down 3)
44- Virginia Tech (down 8)
48- NC State (up 8)
60- Virginia (up 12)
69- Syracuse (up 15)
73- Pittsburgh (down 1)
74- Notre Dame (up 12)
75- Clemson (up 19)
88- Miami (down 7)
96- Georgia Tech (down 11)
119- Wake Forest (down 14)
121- North Carolina (down 6)
162- Boston College (down 11)

The top three stayed top 15, with Duke barely dropping despite a loss to Clemson and a home loss to UofL.

Among teams who I think could have a NCAA shot, State, UVA, & Cuse all moved up this week and are tied at 4-3 with the Hokies for 4th place.

We can't keep five starters on the court. With GT we had one in the doghouse for arguing with the parking ticket lady in Raleigh. Then WF gives Hellums and concussion and he misses 5 games. Then Bryce gets a damn concussion in shoot around before the tip of Clemson game.

Finally Markell Johnson only plays 2 games out of 3. We should be 16-2 and no worse than 6-1 in conference at this point.

That's just too much up and down to finish 4th and I will eat the keyboard if State does not lose at least once to Carolina, even if all they have on the floor are three ball boys and Gut's and Dean's coffins.

(01-19-2020 12:11 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Current NET rankings, with movement following two games this week for everyone except Wake/BC, who each played once & play each other today.

6- Duke (down 4)
10- Louisville (up 5)
13- Florida St (down 3)
44- Virginia Tech (down 8)
48- NC State (up 8)
60- Virginia (up 12)
69- Syracuse (up 15)
73- Pittsburgh (down 1)
74- Notre Dame (up 12)
75- Clemson (up 19)
88- Miami (down 7)
96- Georgia Tech (down 11)
119- Wake Forest (down 14)
121- North Carolina (down 6)
162- Boston College (down 11)

The top three stayed top 15, with Duke barely dropping despite a loss to Clemson and a home loss to UofL.

Among teams who I think could have a NCAA shot, State, UVA, & Cuse all moved up this week and are tied at 4-3 with the Hokies for 4th place.

That’s such a FSU thing to happen, win all of their games including a road win and drop in NET rankings after all of the upsets happening this week in the top 25.

(01-19-2020 12:19 PM)Statefan Wrote:  We can't keep five starters on the court.... Then WF gives Hellums and concussion and he misses 5 games. Then Bryce gets a damn concussion in shoot around before the tip of Clemson game.

Finally Markell Johnson only plays 2 games out of 3. We should be 16-2 and no worse than 6-1 in conference at this point.

Do you say State should be 6-1 based solely off injuries? If so, that isn’t solely a State issue. Duke missed Wendell Moore for both L’s this week. Louisville’s PG David Johnson that led the Cards yesterday missed time early and wasn’t ready to play solid minutes until recently since his development was slowed by shoulder surgery. And look at UNC cratering with Anthony out.

(01-19-2020 12:46 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  

(01-19-2020 12:11 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  13- Florida St (down 3)

That’s such a FSU thing to happen, win all of their games including a road win and drop in NET rankings after all of the upsets happening this week in the top 25.

What sucks is that the NCAA won’t release the formula for the rankings, unlike the RPI which was widely known. The media has complained to no avail, but no one truly knows what makes up the rankings, which is ridiculous.

Sometimes it’s puzzling. Duke loses to a team outside the top 70 and takes a home loss (granted to a top 15 opponent) and only drops 4 spots? Yesterday #8 WVU was blown out by #103 8-8 (0-4) K State. K State jumped in a day from #103 to #85, but WVU only drops one spot to #9 off that horrible loss?

Frankly FSU wasn’t impressive this week eye test wise with two ugly games, but they got a W in both games and still dropped 3 spots as a result.

(01-19-2020 01:03 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(01-19-2020 12:19 PM)Statefan Wrote:  We can't keep five starters on the court.... Then WF gives Hellums and concussion and he misses 5 games. Then Bryce gets a damn concussion in shoot around before the tip of Clemson game.

Finally Markell Johnson only plays 2 games out of 3. We should be 16-2 and no worse than 6-1 in conference at this point.

Do you say State should be 6-1 based solely off injuries? If so, that isn’t solely a State issue. Duke missed Wendell Moore for both L’s this week. Louisville’s PG David Johnson that led the Cards yesterday missed time early and wasn’t ready to play solid minutes until recently since his development was slowed by shoulder surgery. And look at UNC cratering with Anthony out.

We don't have a lot of depth. We have not lost to Duke, or Louisville, or UNC who had players out at the time. I'll let you know once we play one of those three what happens.

The NET rankings formula: Jay Bilas selects the top 10 and the rest an octopus pulls names out of a hat.

(01-19-2020 12:11 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Current NET rankings, with movement following two games this week for everyone except Wake/BC, who each played once & play each other today.

6- Duke (down 4)
10- Louisville (up 5)
13- Florida St (down 3)
44- Virginia Tech (down 8)
48- NC State (up 8)
60- Virginia (up 12)
69- Syracuse (up 15)
73- Pittsburgh (down 1)
74- Notre Dame (up 12)
75- Clemson (up 19)
88- Miami (down 7)
96- Georgia Tech (down 11)
119- Wake Forest (down 14)
121- North Carolina (down 6)
162- Boston College (down 11)

The top three stayed top 15, with Duke barely dropping despite a loss to Clemson and a home loss to UofL.

Among teams who I think could have a NCAA shot, State, UVA, & Cuse all moved up this week and are tied at 4-3 with the Hokies for 4th place.

Teams needing to be top 44 or top 48 on NET/RPI to be invited to NCAA tournament. So far without more OOC games to improve conference RPI, ACC seems to have only four or five teams into the tournament this year.

That being said, because Virginia is the defending national champion, the standard could be stretched to 55 for Virginia and ACC gets one extra team than it deserves.

(01-19-2020 02:14 PM)ArQ Wrote:  Teams needing to be top 44 or top 48 on NET/RPI to be invited to NCAA tournament. So far without more OOC games to improve conference RPI, ACC seems to have only four or five teams into the tournament this year.

That being said, because Virginia is the defending national champion, the standard could be stretched to 55 for Virginia

It’s hard to know for sure with only one year year of NET usage by the committee. Last year they gave bids to teams with 56, 63, & 73 rankings, though all three were First 4 teams in Dayton. I don’t recommend ACC teams bank on being one of those “exceptions” this year considering how poorly most of the league performed in the non-conference against power conf. opponents. Case in point, Syracuse lost to Oklahoma St, who is #78 in NET but winless & dead last in the Big 12. Quite a black eye if Cuse is being discussed for a final spot.

(01-19-2020 01:14 PM)Statefan Wrote:  We don't have a lot of depth. We have not lost to Duke, or Louisville, or UNC who had players out at the time. I'll let you know once we play one of those three what happens.

I know you haven’t played those three yet. I just named those three as they’re high profile but I’m sure others in the ACC (such as BC) have had injuries as well. My point is many teams deal with injuries. They can be a partial explanation to why a team lost a game, but most teams could say “without x and y injuries we’d be several games better”. The combined conference record still has to end up .500 for league play though.

Metro Conference representing.

Florida State and Louisville tied at 1.

Virginia Tech tied at 4.

(01-19-2020 04:14 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Metro Conference representing.

Florida State and Louisville tied at 1.

Virginia Tech tied at 4.

(01-19-2020 04:14 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Metro Conference representing.

Florida State and Louisville tied at 1.

Virginia Tech tied at 4.

I’ve always been awestruck by the megalopolises of Tallahassee, Louisville, and Blacksburg.

(01-19-2020 09:46 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(01-19-2020 04:14 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Metro Conference representing.

Florida State and Louisville tied at 1.

Virginia Tech tied at 4.

I’ve always been awestruck by the megalopolises of Tallahassee, Louisville, and Blacksburg.

Hattiesburg Mississippi dwarfs them all ....


In it's 20 year history (1975 to 1995), the Metro Conference membership included at one time or another .... Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Memphis State, Cincinnati, St Louis, Tulane, Southern Miss, VCU, South Florida, and UNC Charlotte (in addition to Louisville, Florida State and Virginia Tech).

Had nice battles with those schools. A couple games I remember was when FSU upset USM, they had some guy named Clarence Weatherspoon who was hail as the next Charles Barkley. I also remember being at the skating rink in either 90 or 91 when it was announced that FSU won the Metro Conference tournament, the place erupted with cheers.

(01-19-2020 10:21 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(01-19-2020 09:46 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(01-19-2020 04:14 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Metro Conference representing.

Florida State and Louisville tied at 1.

Virginia Tech tied at 4.

I’ve always been awestruck by the megalopolises of Tallahassee, Louisville, and Blacksburg.

Hattiesburg Mississippi dwarfs them all ....


In it's 20 year history (1975 to 1995), the Metro Conference membership included at one time or another .... Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Memphis State, Cincinnati, St Louis, Tulane, Southern Miss, VCU, South Florida, and UNC Charlotte (in addition to Louisville, Florida State and Virginia Tech).

Haha, some USM fans told me they got in because they’re AD was close with some Metro ADs. I can’t recall if they replaced St. Louis or Tulane, when their program shuttered due to point shaving.

I know West Virginia seriously considered joining in Tulane’s place; they had the invite in hand and the athletic counsel went as far as voting approval. I believe the president shot it down.

NCSU just beat UVA in Charlottesville.