Quote:A diverse gathering of pro-gun protestors set to descend upon Virginia’s capital on Monday could include an unlikely ally, a local antifa group.

In what Vice called a “bizarre meeting of the minds,” Richmond-based Antifa Seven Hills also strongly opposes the gun measures now likely to become law since Democrats won control of both Virginia houses last year, and they too want Democratic leaders in Richmond to know.

“I think it’s been pretty important for us to focus on the fact that gun control in America has a legacy of racist enforcement,” an Antifa Seven Hills spokesperson called James, a self-identified anarchist who withheld his real name for fear of getting doxxed, told Vice. “Like taking guns away from black people, because black people were perceived as a threat to property and the sanctity of the state.”

“This is our fight as much as anyone else’s,” James continued. “It’s our state, and we are left largely out of the debate. The presence of an armed left is not discussed, it’s not understood.”

To the “armed left,” gun control represents the rise of a police state and the oppression of minorities made powerless by disarmament, but it’s a class issue as well.

“In the case of Antifa Seven Hills, they believe they’ve got more in common with working-class white Virginians, regardless of their political bent, than they do with many of the moderate Democrats who helped their party win control of the Legislature in November, for the first time since 1994,” Vice reported, adding that the group sees the coming January 20 rally “as an opportunity to extend an olive branch to other gun owners — at least those who don’t align with the far-right militias or white supremacists who are also expected to show up to the event.”

While antifa groups in other areas, particularly the West coast, often practice and condone violence against their political enemies and have even been called “a major organization of terror” by President Donald Trump, James says his group takes a different approach: “I think what’s particular about the South is that we have to be a bit more creative and sensitive to the people around us — instead of fulfilling some sort of meme of what antifa is,” he told Vice. “That’s really what we’re trying to work against right now, especially by talking to conservatives and showing we aren’t just a black-clad group of rabble-rousers who are out for attention and have jobs funded by George Soros.”

James declined to “discuss” the group’s “plans” should white supremacist groups join the protests. Virginia Governor Ralph Northam has declared a state of emergency and banned firearms on Capitol grounds.

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Let's look at this a little more closely. ANTIFA are lefties who advocate for violent overthrow of the government. Therefore, they would have a natural interest in being able to obtain firearms. The Deep State however would want to 1) have an incident like Charlottesville to point to and 2) label 2A groups like the VCDL as domestic terrorists. An incident with ANTIFA in attendance let's the MSM label VCDL as a domestic terrorist group while claiming balance because ANTIFA was there. Optics are important.

Kent St. comes to mind....

So Gov. Blackface has declared that no guns will be allowed at a pro-gun rights rally. I'll be interested to see just how well that plays out for him and his commie buddies. Are they going to seriously try and hold back and/or arrest hundreds of thousands of armed citizens?

Richmond is about an hour up the road from here, but Imma sit this one out.

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(01-18-2020 04:58 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  So Gov. Blackface has declared that no guns will be allowed at a pro-gun rights rally. I'll be interested to see just how well that plays out for him and his commie buddies. Are they going to seriously try and hold back and/or arrest hundreds of thousands of armed citizens?

They're going to try to instigate a riot, pin the blame on the pro-2A crowd, crucify them in the court of public opinion, and let the private sector clean up the rest. Northam's already saying it's going to be Charlottesville 2.0. I hope you're ready to be a Nazi if you have a gun that's not a hunting rifle.

(01-18-2020 05:26 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Richmond is about an hour up the road from here, but Imma sit this one out.

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#smart

I don't envy your state's situation at this point....

I posed the rhetorical long ago, "what the heyall done happened to VA?"

nobody wants that bs....

regardless, one version won't end well.....

#callMeAnytime

(01-18-2020 05:31 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 04:58 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  So Gov. Blackface has declared that no guns will be allowed at a pro-gun rights rally. I'll be interested to see just how well that plays out for him and his commie buddies. Are they going to seriously try and hold back and/or arrest hundreds of thousands of armed citizens?

They're going to try to instigate a riot, pin the blame on the pro-2A crowd, crucify them in the court of public opinion, and let the private sector clean up the rest. Northam's already saying it's going to be Charlottesville 2.0. I hope you're ready to be a Nazi if you have a gun that's not a hunting rifle.

This is exactly right and those issuing the parade/demonstration permits know this. No doubt they are minions of the chickenshit governor. And to provoke a riot is exactly what the governor is after because that way he can call out the national guard for enforcement.

This has dishonest trap written all over it. I wonder if the permits permit ANTIFA to carry MACE and Batons as is their M.O.?

(01-18-2020 06:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 05:31 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 04:58 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  So Gov. Blackface has declared that no guns will be allowed at a pro-gun rights rally. I'll be interested to see just how well that plays out for him and his commie buddies. Are they going to seriously try and hold back and/or arrest hundreds of thousands of armed citizens?

They're going to try to instigate a riot, pin the blame on the pro-2A crowd, crucify them in the court of public opinion, and let the private sector clean up the rest. Northam's already saying it's going to be Charlottesville 2.0. I hope you're ready to be a Nazi if you have a gun that's not a hunting rifle.

This is exactly right and those issuing the parade/demonstration permits know this. No doubt they are minions of the chickenshit governor. And to provoke a riot is exactly what the governor is after because that way he can call out the national guard for enforcement.

This has dishonest trap written all over it. I wonder if the permits permit ANTIFA to carry MACE and Batons as is their M.O.?

like I stated in post #2..............................Kent St. on the horizon, pal....

one can only hope "NOT"....

these pussified ding-dongs don't have a clue who they're fk'n with at this point.....

(01-18-2020 06:27 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 06:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 05:31 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 04:58 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  So Gov. Blackface has declared that no guns will be allowed at a pro-gun rights rally. I'll be interested to see just how well that plays out for him and his commie buddies. Are they going to seriously try and hold back and/or arrest hundreds of thousands of armed citizens?

They're going to try to instigate a riot, pin the blame on the pro-2A crowd, crucify them in the court of public opinion, and let the private sector clean up the rest. Northam's already saying it's going to be Charlottesville 2.0. I hope you're ready to be a Nazi if you have a gun that's not a hunting rifle.

This is exactly right and those issuing the parade/demonstration permits know this. No doubt they are minions of the chickenshit governor. And to provoke a riot is exactly what the governor is after because that way he can call out the national guard for enforcement.

This has dishonest trap written all over it. I wonder if the permits permit ANTIFA to carry MACE and Batons as is their M.O.?

like I stated in post #2..............................Kent St. on the horizon, pal....

one can only hope "NOT"....

Stink he's not looking for Neil Young to sing about 4 dead in Ohio. He's looking for the peaceful protestors to be provoked into beating a few ANTIFA thugs so he can send in the Guard, gather national attention, and label the citizens as the threat.

At Kent State you had the backdrop of the Weather Underground which had planted some bombs in government buildings and had directed violence at the law. The Guard at Kent State had been briefed on that and were overly antsy.

The situations are similar in that you have a primed element making trouble easier, but different in that the Guard at Kent State didn't set out to kill anyone. Gov. Al Jolson isn't wanting anyone killed yet, he just wants violence. When he sends in the guard to confiscate weapons he wants the picture to have already been painted as to the possibility of violence from what some think are "just common citizens" but as evidenced by the violence with ANTIFA, should really be labeled a threat.

This is the backdrop that Clinton painted for the killing of Koresh's followers in Waco, and the backdrop set at Ruby Ridge where the pregnant Wife and the Son of "a person of interest" were gunned down by the FBI. That "person of interest turned out to be innocent and the Clinton FBI with sharpshooters opened fire on the pregnant Woman and the Son, neither of whom fired on them and murdered them as an act of intimidation. Neither the wife or son had committed any crimes and there weren't warrants for them.

So this S.O.B. who occupies Virginia's Governor's Mansion is wanting to frame the citizens as potential terrorists if they kick the asses of some of the ANTIFA thugs.

I feel sorry for the Guard if they get called up by this feckless liar of a leader they have. We shouldn't put our citizens or our Guard in confrontation with one another as one is there to serve the other.

Kent State was a tragedy, but one where media bias failed to mention that the school was a target of phoned in threat by Obama's buddies Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers' weather underground, which is why the Guard was there in the first place.

JR, I don't disagree with any of the above arguments with the following exception...

they're one and the same in my book.....it's nothing more than one version beggin' for 'iTTT'...

IMO, (as yours), it's obvious what is being laid out on the battlefield beforehand....even though it's 'different' in semantics, it's still the same by design in political scope....

there's no Neil in my version.....and the following is what I send to mine every father's day....

(01-18-2020 06:56 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  JR, I don't disagree with any of the above arguments with the following exception...

they're one and the same in my book.....it's nothing more than one version beggin' for 'iTTT'...

IMO, (as yours), it's obvious what is being laid out on the battlefield beforehand....even though it's 'different' in semantics, it's still the same by design in political scope....

there's no Neil in my version.....and the following is what I send to mine every father's day....

For me it's more Mike and the Mechanics, "In the Living Years". And I've always wondered if Neil Young voted for the Clintons. Kind of makes that 4 Dead in Ohio lyric a bit hypocritical if he did. And if he voted for Obama it puts it way over the top! But then when it comes to old traitors (my generation) I'm much less forgiving and much more hard line. Got nothing for Hanoi Jane either!

P.S. I hear where your coming from and our differences on this one are nuanced but by vantage point. You are looking at the likely result. I looking purely at motive and I'm looking at that with significant prejudice since it is endangering innocent people.

I bet this will be a peaceful rally and lobby day. What fool would try to pick a fight with 50,000 armed law-abiding citizens who are petitioningthe governmentpeacefullyin the defense of their inalienable rights? Is the government really that stupid (maybe they are)? If something happens it is because of the Governor and the deep state behind him

(01-18-2020 09:27 PM)hburg Wrote:  I bet this will be a peaceful rally and lobby day. What fool would try to pick a fight with 50,000 armed law-abiding citizens who are petitioningthe governmentpeacefullyin the defense of their inalienable rights? Is the government really that stupid (maybe they are)? If something happens it is because of the Governor and the deep state behind him

I hope you are right, but I disagree. This event will likely end up with blood, bodies, and the national media using it to further their narrative. Living in Richmond, I pray for my neighbors and friends, as I fly out to PA midday. Many close friends, all 2A supporters, will be there and the way CoonMan described Charlottesville as a completely extreme right caused event, I fear for their safety. Antifa goons will not be welcomed by the honest and hardworking citizens that legally and responsibly own the guns to be banned, and there will be violence.

Virginia now has the government it truly deserves, and I'd prefer a restructuring versus having Northern Virginia continue to determine my politics in Chesterfield County.

I would agree that Governor blackface and the other Democrats socialist are really pushing for a war. I do not know why, but their threats to the people only caused an escalation in tensions. Last week Del. Mark Levine was the latest to threat citizens. Senator Mardsen was caught in open mic calling citizens who support the second as kids who are mentally ill. Then to continue the threat from the government, Governor Blackface decided to compare 2and Amendment supporters as white nationalists. Apparently the dems did a poll recently asking what were topics that would foster a civil war. In that study they found that the impeachment removal of the president and gun confiscation. Unfortunately they are working on both at the same time. Which tells me this is quite intentional on their part.

hburg, State Senator Amanda Chase today posted a warning about this event. She is neither trivial nor prone to drama.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comm...arning_to/

Dear Lord, what has happened to my cherished Commonwealth?

(01-18-2020 10:48 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  hburg, State Senator Amanda Chase today posted a warning about this event. She is neither trivial nor prone to drama.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comm...arning_to/

Dear Lord, what has happened to my cherished Commonwealth?

when I previously stated, "...Kent St....", I wasn't joking around....

this one ya pay att'n too....it may end up as mere 'blah blah', but there's a big 'if' hanging chad that is ready to pounce if something ignites...

yeah, I'm pulling for you guys and 'sanity' to prevail...

Saw that. Senator Amanda Chase is a real patriot. I have become a fan of hers. She was also describing the fence around the capital and I just couldn't help but compare it to the Berlin wall. On the inside, you have the socialist agenda on full display with the illegal gun ban and a fencing system that only has two exits and two entry points. On the outside you have the right to bare arms, but big brother watching. It feels like a communist takeover.

(01-18-2020 04:58 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  So Gov. Blackface has declared that no guns will be allowed at a pro-gun rights rally. I'll be interested to see just how well that plays out for him and his commie buddies. Are they going to seriously try and hold back and/or arrest hundreds of thousands of armed citizens?

Ahem.

It’s Governor Coonman.

Get it straight, pal!

Tired of helping you Tenn. hicks

What I hope you take note of with regard to her remarks is that this was an Bush agenda as well. The globalists infiltration into the Republican party began with the backers of the Federal Reserve under the Kennedy Administration. RFK and JFK fought it and it cost them both.

For those of you with a memory President Eisenhower warned us as he left office that his greatest fear for our nation was the rise of the military industrial complex. These were the Fed Backers aside from some European banks and European companies. The bulk was the American Arms Industry that shot to the forefront following WWII and Korea and was largely responsible for Viet Nam. RFK was the one who solidly against them and wanted to ditch the Federal Reserve. They both died I believe as a result of it. JFK in '63 and RFK in '68. This is why I carefully pointed out that LBJ's biggest backers were the Federal Reserve backers.

Nixon is an interesting Question, but after Agnew was nixed and Ford came in (a Fed backer and member of the Warren Commission) Nixon, Ike's VP and inlaws, was toast. When Ford was voted out Carter was a populist and his own party, much like Trumps entry into Washington, refused to work with him. Reagan to receive the nomination of the Republican party was told he had to either accept Ford or Bush. Both were major players with the Fed Backers. Globalists today were Fed Backers then if this helps you make the connection. The Bush family was old guard Washington D.C. and wound tight with the intelligence community from Prescott Bush clear onto H.W. as director of the CIA.

There's a reason that the Bush's, Clinton's, Obama's, and McCain's were tight. Forget party affiliations. Obama's father was on the CIA payroll as an informer into guerilla activities in Africa.

The whole move against Trump was because his election and the vote against Brexit were major setbacks to the globalists strategies for controlling world markets and its population bases.

If they are pressing this right now it is because they want to invoke some kind of martial law for the continuation of their aborted agendas.

The way to beat them is in this next election if the people can ignore the lies issued nightly by the MSM. Romney is in with this group. Ryan was in with this group. McCain ran for president as a teaser pony for Obama's implementation of the hate crime bills which were designed to get around the Bill of Rights so that whole groups of citizens could be labeled and prosecuted broadly and by the right classification could be detained without evidence against them by the HSA and Patriot Act legislation.

For all of those who believe that reading a whole 1000 page bill isn't necessary, all I have to say is that they don't put one stinking word in any of those bills unless they intend to use the interpretation of them to accomplish something they aren't willing to discuss.

Vote for anyone but these clowns on the left who are trying to pick a fight, and for any Republican who isn't interested in draining the swamp. The future of your children and grandchildren are at stake. And peacefully at the ballot box is the way to do it. Vote them out! Vote them all out! With a couple of presidents we can start to ween out the bureaucracy too. It will take time. It took these corporate crooks and their paid for political hacks 50 years to get us to this point. It's going to take at least 20 to put this matter to rest. But if we are to do it, it has to be peacefully, and you damned well better teach your kids and grandkids the truth they will never hear in a public school!

(01-18-2020 05:31 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 04:58 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  So Gov. Blackface has declared that no guns will be allowed at a pro-gun rights rally. I'll be interested to see just how well that plays out for him and his commie buddies. Are they going to seriously try and hold back and/or arrest hundreds of thousands of armed citizens?

They're going to try to instigate a riot, pin the blame on the pro-2A crowd, crucify them in the court of public opinion, and let the private sector clean up the rest. Northam's already saying it's going to be Charlottesville 2.0. I hope you're ready to be a Nazi if you have a gun that's not a hunting rifle.

Yup.

Pretty spot on. Best that everyone be on their best behavior.

Ifn’s the prancing ninjas decide to instigate, I will expect Coonman to have the police ready to respond.