(01-17-2020 09:13 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote: I wouldn’t draft him with a top 3 pick if I was a GM. In his high school days he had already developed a reputation as a player who wasn’t motivated, would take plays off and would routinely not play to his full potential. He was rated #1 off of ceiling potential. College was his chance to prove himself against tougher competition and shed the perception that he didn’t have heart. Then he quit the school, coaching staff, fan base and players that stuck their neck out for him. Completely justifying all of the above critiques.
(01-17-2020 05:52 PM)micman Wrote: GP’s Schtick is getting tiresome. I listened to the first 3 minutes of his show today. He mentioned Clemson’s Etienne’s pro decision with “I will never criticize a young man for doing what he thinks is best for him”, then a minute later he criticized James Wiseman’s decision and called him a “quitter” for the tenth day in a row.
I find his antics to be increasingly lazy, uninsightful, and tiresome.
It’s one thing to publicly criticize a 60-year-old millionaire coach daily for 200 consecutive days (though absurd); it’s another to publicly criticize an 18-year-old for making a significant life decision.
Wiseman is a quitter and screw GP.
Maybe Wiseman was tired of the situation and decided to move on?
Ever break up with a girl? Were you a quitter? Ever go on a diet or try to eat more healthy? Quitter?
Yes he’s a quitter. He quit on his call aches and teammates.
Like you quit on your response instead of trying to discuss?
Why would he want to discuss Tiger basketball with an Ole Miss fan?
Hummm...
Doesn’t look like it’ll line up this way, but what would posters on this site think if Wiseman were still available when the Grizzlies draft? Who’d say “Don’t draft him, he’s a quitter.”
(01-18-2020 06:26 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote: Hummm...
Doesn’t look like it’ll line up this way, but what would posters on this site think if Wiseman were still available when the Grizzlies draft? Who’d say “Don’t draft him, he’s a quitter.”
This is one of the many reasons I’m not an NBA general manager. But the only competitive evidence we have of Wiseman is against much lesser talented high school kids. If I’m the GM of a team that needs their top pick to be an immediate contributor, I probably don’t take Wiseman because there is no body of work to validate him as such a difference maker..
(01-18-2020 06:26 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote: Hummm...
Doesn’t look like it’ll line up this way, but what would posters on this site think if Wiseman were still available when the Grizzlies draft? Who’d say “Don’t draft him, he’s a quitter.”
This is one of the many reasons I’m not an NBA general manager. But the only competitive evidence we have of Wiseman is against much lesser talented high school kids. If I’m the GM of a team that needs their top pick to be an immediate contributor, I probably don’t take Wiseman because there is no body of work to validate him as such a difference maker..
There’s a good chance that happens. Wiseman could have chosen to play, dominated and solidified his spot as the #1 pick. Instead he quit and now there will be some risk involved in selecting him because there is no tape of him against high level competition. He’ll still be a top 5 pick but probably not #1.
(01-18-2020 06:26 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote: Hummm...
Doesn’t look like it’ll line up this way, but what would posters on this site think if Wiseman were still available when the Grizzlies draft? Who’d say “Don’t draft him, he’s a quitter.”
This is one of the many reasons I’m not an NBA general manager. But the only competitive evidence we have of Wiseman is against much lesser talented high school kids. If I’m the GM of a team that needs their top pick to be an immediate contributor, I probably don’t take Wiseman because there is no body of work to validate him as such a difference maker..
There’s a good chance that happens. Wiseman could have chosen to play, dominated and solidified his spot as the #1 pick. Instead he quit and now there will be some risk involved in selecting him because there is no tape of him against high level competition. He’ll still be a top 5 pick but probably not #1.
So, you are saying Wiseman is tanking it so the Grizzlies can get him?
(01-18-2020 06:26 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote: Hummm...
Doesn’t look like it’ll line up this way, but what would posters on this site think if Wiseman were still available when the Grizzlies draft? Who’d say “Don’t draft him, he’s a quitter.”
By their definition Nick Saban is a quitter as well...
(01-18-2020 06:26 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote: Hummm...
Doesn’t look like it’ll line up this way, but what would posters on this site think if Wiseman were still available when the Grizzlies draft? Who’d say “Don’t draft him, he’s a quitter.”
By their definition Nick Saban is a quitter as well...
(01-18-2020 06:26 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote: Hummm...
Doesn’t look like it’ll line up this way, but what would posters on this site think if Wiseman were still available when the Grizzlies draft? Who’d say “Don’t draft him, he’s a quitter.”
(01-18-2020 06:26 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote: Hummm...
Doesn’t look like it’ll line up this way, but what would posters on this site think if Wiseman were still available when the Grizzlies draft? Who’d say “Don’t draft him, he’s a quitter.”
By their definition Nick Saban is a quitter as well...
People gonna believe what they want to believe.
Norvell is a quitter too.
Penny quit on us too
It’s fine. I’ll take both of those guys over someone who played 3 meaningless games ...
(01-17-2020 06:43 PM)memtigbb Wrote: I said it then and I will say it now.. If I were in his position there is no way I could have made the same decision. 1. The coaching staff and university really went out on a limb for me. 2. I recruited some of the players to Memphis by asking to come play with me. I respect his decision and moved on, but I could never have made the same decision he made.
I hear ya. And I agree with all of that.......as almost a 50 year old man. What I mean is, the kid is 18..........we have no idea what kind of pressure, persuasion, etc. that family had on his decision. When I was 18, I made all kinds of decisions that a mature, grown man would never make and wish I had a time machine and could go back and not embarrass myself. Then, the added pressure (and it is pressure even though all of us would say "sign me up for that!") of being on the cusp of being a multi-millionaire is unsettling to a kid's normal thought pattern as well.
I wouldn't have done it either and would have felt like I let my coach, team, and others down.......but I don't know what I would do if I was back as a freshman in college. I was pretty dang dumb.
(01-17-2020 05:52 PM)micman Wrote: GP’s Schtick is getting tiresome. I listened to the first 3 minutes of his show today. He mentioned Clemson’s Etienne’s pro decision with “I will never criticize a young man for doing what he thinks is best for him”, then a minute later he criticized James Wiseman’s decision and called him a “quitter” for the tenth day in a row.
I find his antics to be increasingly lazy, uninsightful, and tiresome.
It’s one thing to publicly criticize a 60-year-old millionaire coach daily for 200 consecutive days (though absurd); it’s another to publicly criticize an 18-year-old for making a significant life decision.
(01-19-2020 10:33 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: James quit. He became a millionaire but no doubt cost himself millions in notoriety and branding.
He also opened up a lot of questions about his desire to actually compete. Who is to say he won't quit on his NBA team? Does he even have that fire?
I don't know but you can bet it is going to cost him millions more than he gained in contracts and endorsements.
Yes it hurt us, but it is really going to cost him, esp long term
He got some really bad advise from some greedy folks too close to him
Hope you’re not referring to mom and sis. They are both saying they only found out Wiseman was declaring and dropping out a few days before the public did.
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GP’s Wiseman Schtick
