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listening to the coaches show streaming, and i can't help but listen. I'd sometimes put it on with Cb in the background at work and not hear anything because he just wasn't exciting.
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I was told to expect some players to leave if Burke doesn't get the job. It may very well be emotions running a little wild, but it could be a possibility. And I'm not saying Burke is the right choice in the long run. But he is growing on me. Just too early to say yet.
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At the coach's show, listening to Burke. I'm thinking he may be the Ed Orgeron of the CAA.
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(01-20-2020 12:39 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I was told to expect some players to leave if Burke doesn't get the job. It may very well be emotions running a little wild, but it could be a possibility. And I'm not saying Burke is the right choice in the long run. But he is growing on me. Just too early to say yet.

Wonder if that would change if someone else got it, but retained him on the staff.
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(01-20-2020 12:39 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I was told to expect some players to leave if Burke doesn't get the job. It may very well be emotions running a little wild, but it could be a possibility. And I'm not saying Burke is the right choice in the long run. But he is growing on me. Just too early to say yet.

He's too loud and emotional. I'm sure they'll get tired of it. So this can't possibly be true.
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(01-18-2020 11:56 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Would it be possible for our overlords at Flo to give us Burke cam split screen option moving forward. Watching him on the sidelines is somthing else
I said the same thing to my wife while we were watching the game. They did it during the Blizzard interview so it seem they have the capability.

It will be interesting to see how (or if) Burke's style changes as time goes on.
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I think one of the most important qualities a coach can possess is authenticity. If his players trust him, and recognize his energy as genuine, I don't think it is an issue. He's given this team a vision and reason to trust the staff to put them in a position to be successful. If he continues to do that, I think they'll continue to listen. And, despite being animated, he's gone out of his way to praise Esleeck and Manual, as well as every player on the team...from a distance, it doesn't appear that this is about him.

I hope he proves himself worthy as the next guy. I think we have nice pieces here, but not all of the pieces that we need to win the conference. Regardless, we're traveling to CofC with reason to think we can win. That is a really nice change from our mindset from just one week ago.
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(01-20-2020 01:48 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I think one of the most important qualities a coach can possess is authenticity. If his players trust him, and recognize his energy as genuine, I don't think it is an issue. He's given this team a vision and reason to trust the staff to put them in a position to be successful. If he continues to do that, I think they'll continue to listen. And, despite being animated, he's gone out of his way to praise Esleeck and Manual, as well as every player on the team...from a distance, it doesn't appear that this is about him.

I hope he proves himself worthy as the next guy. I think we have nice pieces here, but not all of the pieces that we need to win the conference. Regardless, we're traveling to CofC with reason to think we can win. That is a really nice change from our mindset from just one week ago.
Definitely a change in mindset,a dn agree with all your points on Burke. spot on. much better spot than we were with your boy CB!
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One thing I’ve also noticed is how Coach Esleeck responds to Burke. There doesn’t seem to be any outward signs of resentment that Burke got the interim job over him. There’s deference and respect on the sidelines.

But that’s just from what I’ve seen.
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(01-20-2020 02:01 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  One thing I’ve also noticed is how Coach Esleeck responds to Burke. There doesn’t seem to be any outward signs of resentment that Burke got the interim job over him. There’s deference and respect on the sidelines.

But that’s just from what I’ve seen.
Well, you are literally a few feet away. So, i'll take your word for it
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(01-20-2020 01:05 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(01-20-2020 12:39 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I was told to expect some players to leave if Burke doesn't get the job. It may very well be emotions running a little wild, but it could be a possibility. And I'm not saying Burke is the right choice in the long run. But he is growing on me. Just too early to say yet.

He's too loud and emotional. I'm sure they'll get tired of it. So this can't possibly be true.

(01-20-2020 01:50 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-20-2020 01:48 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I think one of the most important qualities a coach can possess is authenticity. If his players trust him, and recognize his energy as genuine, I don't think it is an issue. He's given this team a vision and reason to trust the staff to put them in a position to be successful. If he continues to do that, I think they'll continue to listen. And, despite being animated, he's gone out of his way to praise Esleeck and Manual, as well as every player on the team...from a distance, it doesn't appear that this is about him.

I hope he proves himself worthy as the next guy. I think we have nice pieces here, but not all of the pieces that we need to win the conference. Regardless, we're traveling to CofC with reason to think we can win. That is a really nice change from our mindset from just one week ago.
Definitely a change in mindset,a dn agree with all your points on Burke. spot on. much better spot than we were with your boy CB!

CB wasn't my top choice as HC. I was surprised as everyone else when he accepted, and I think that you can win with his demeanor. I don't think you have to be animated to succeed...I don't think CB's personality is why he failed in other words.

Also good to hear from those who've seen the last two games in person that Esleeck is responding to his role as well. Burke has mentioned how tough this has been on everyone, but it is nice to see those three rally around each other.

I wanted CB to be successful because he was the new HC of UNCW, not because he was an assistant at Carolina.
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(01-20-2020 02:11 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-20-2020 01:05 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(01-20-2020 12:39 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I was told to expect some players to leave if Burke doesn't get the job. It may very well be emotions running a little wild, but it could be a possibility. And I'm not saying Burke is the right choice in the long run. But he is growing on me. Just too early to say yet.

He's too loud and emotional. I'm sure they'll get tired of it. So this can't possibly be true.

(01-20-2020 01:50 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-20-2020 01:48 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I think one of the most important qualities a coach can possess is authenticity. If his players trust him, and recognize his energy as genuine, I don't think it is an issue. He's given this team a vision and reason to trust the staff to put them in a position to be successful. If he continues to do that, I think they'll continue to listen. And, despite being animated, he's gone out of his way to praise Esleeck and Manual, as well as every player on the team...from a distance, it doesn't appear that this is about him.

I hope he proves himself worthy as the next guy. I think we have nice pieces here, but not all of the pieces that we need to win the conference. Regardless, we're traveling to CofC with reason to think we can win. That is a really nice change from our mindset from just one week ago.
Definitely a change in mindset,a dn agree with all your points on Burke. spot on. much better spot than we were with your boy CB!

CB wasn't my top choice as HC. I was surprised as everyone else when he accepted, and I think that you can win with his demeanor. I don't think you have to be animated to succeed...I don't think CB's personality is why he failed in other words.

Also good to hear from those who've seen the last two games in person that Esleeck is responding to his role as well. Burke has mentioned how tough this has been on everyone, but it is nice to see those three rally around each other.

I wanted CB to be successful because he was the new HC of UNCW, not because he was an assistant at Carolina.

I don't think anyone wanted him to fail, i certainly didn't. But, i had serious doubts.
You are correct, Burke is getting all the credit, but the whole staff seems to have rallied around him. But you know what they say, it's easier for good leaders to rally the troops.
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I was concerned with letting CB go in the middle of the season because of what happened when Moss was let go. The players quit in the process. They quit on the court and in the classroom. Contrary to what has been said about the type of players Benny recruited, they excelled in the classroom. They actually had the highest GPA in program history one year. Then, when Benny was releived of his duties, the grades plummeted with some the players to point that we were penalized scholarships. And I think the team went 2-12 the remainder of the season.
But this team is different. They have rallied together and behind the coaching staff. They openly express their love for each other. So, I truly believe they will come out of this all the more stronger for it. Hopefully they will accept which coach is chosen and stay together. They are young and more talented than they have been given credit for. To this point they have faced the controversy and are becoming better players and men in the process. Proud of these guys and our coaches.
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(01-20-2020 02:18 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  I don't think anyone wanted him to fail, i certainly didn't. But, i had serious doubts.

For sure, and I didn't mean to imply that. Just emphasizing that I wasn't a cheer leader for him either.
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(01-20-2020 02:45 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I was concerned with letting CB go in the middle of the season because of what happened when Moss was let go. The players quit in the process. They quit on the court and in the classroom. Contrary to what has been said about the type of players Benny recruited, they excelled in the classroom. They actually had the highest GPA in program history one year. Then, when Benny was releived of his duties, the grades plummeted with some the players to point that we were penalized scholarships. And I think the team went 2-12 the remainder of the season.
But this team is different. They have rallied together and behind the coaching staff. They openly express their love for each other. So, I truly believe they will come out of this all the more stronger for it. Hopefully they will accept which coach is chosen and stay together. They are young and more talented than they have been given credit for. To this point they have faced the controversy and are becoming better players and men in the process. Proud of these guys and our coaches.

Night and day. When Moss was let go, Brooks Lee took over and not much changed. We continued to lose and nothing much changed in strategy, coaching style and success, Burke is a completely different personality and has revamped both our offense and defense, so we are competing and actually knocked off a top tier CAA team in less than a week. There wasn't a Burke on the sideline when Bennny left.

Also, Burke is a known enitity and has been there the whole time the players have. Another new coach at the end of the season represents another unknown in personality, style and coaching ability. With such a huge difference in less then a week, these guys obviously believe in Burke at the HC. Maybe we should listen.
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Burke mentioned in his post-game press conference that he had an idea what he'd like to do with the three open scholarships. With his interim tag, how much, if any, of his time is spent recruiting?
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He mentioned 2 scholarships when I was listening.
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(01-20-2020 06:13 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  He mentioned 2 scholarships when I was listening.

I've heard him mention 2 and 3. If you take away Jenkins scholarships we have 3... Then account for Melvin Edwards we have 2. Either way I think it's safe to assume Jenkins will not be on scholarship next season.
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(01-20-2020 07:04 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(01-20-2020 06:13 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  He mentioned 2 scholarships when I was listening.

I've heard him mention 2 and 3. If you take away Jenkins scholarships we have 3... Then account for Melvin Edwards we have 2. Either way I think it's safe to assume Jenkins will not be on scholarship next season.

What I found most interesting is he said he had some "players in mind", not just positions. I'm really intrigued by Burke and his coaching connnections. His father is the thrid winningest coach in the history of NC college basketball. He and his family have been around college basketball A LONG TIME. You may have missed it, but he gave a shout out to Brooks Lee. This could go a long way in recruiting connections.

I also really love the fact he has always had to coach and compete at a level where there are no blue chip players and a shoestring budget. Strategy and motivation have been his only edge. At the midmajor level, that constant role as underdog when playing even D1 teams has made him devise specific strategies to even be competitive, much less win. McGrath was the polar opposite. He never had to play or coach at a disadvantage. He was never surrounded by anything less than blue chip players and unlimited budgets.

If Burke can keep these guys competing as he has, there is a huge upside to having him leading this program.
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(01-20-2020 07:21 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(01-20-2020 07:04 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(01-20-2020 06:13 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  He mentioned 2 scholarships when I was listening.

I've heard him mention 2 and 3. If you take away Jenkins scholarships we have 3... Then account for Melvin Edwards we have 2. Either way I think it's safe to assume Jenkins will not be on scholarship next season.

What I found most interesting is he said he had some "players in mind", not just positions. I'm really intrigued by Burke and his coaching connnections. His father is the thrid winningest coach in the history of NC college basketball. He and his family have been around college basketball A LONG TIME. You may have missed it, but he gave a shout out to Brooks Lee. This could go a long way in recruiting connections.

I also really love the fact he has always had to coach and compete at a level where there are no blue chip players and a shoestring budget. Strategy and motivation have been his only edge. At the midmajor level, that constant role as underdog when playing even D1 teams has made him devise specific strategies to even be competitive, much less win. McGrath was the polar opposite. He never had to play or coach at a disadvantage. He was never surrounded by anything less than blue chip players and unlimited budgets.

If Burke can keep these guys competing as he has, there is a huge upside to having him leading this program.

Yep... He's non-corporate coaching lifer. He's had to earn everything he's gotten. Hard to not root for him to be successful
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