(08-06-2020 06:48 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 07:46 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 07:25 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  DeAngelo Amos enters the transfer portal. Sucks.

https://twitter.com/almostfamos_/status/...44609?s=21

And there's the answer on the 2020 football season. I would think that your senior leader got word to get ahead of this because there won't be a season.

So much for Bourne's foot dragging and stringing the fans along about a season. He NEVER intended to put together a season. He ONLY intended to string us all along so he could make it look like he was trying to play a season. Bourne expected the NCAA to bail him out all along by cancelling the playoffs. He never expected the NCAA to flip the script and put it on the schools and conferences to decide.

Bringing all these kids back in early July----when JMU already suspected the CAA was going to cancel the season----housing, feeding, testing, training, practicing---this was alot of time, money and effort. JMU is supposed to suit up on Friday to start fall camp---are they gonna keep up this charade now that they've lost a senior leader??

This is the first JMU domino to fall. I'd expect more seniors to hit the portal. I'd expect coaches to look for greener pastures. I'd expect commits to open up recruitment.

You can't got around telling coaches, players, and recruits you're as good as any G5 then bail on a season when the G5 plays. Can't be expected to run that same game on donors and fans either. If JMU does not play this season---and there is a season---the brand is irreparably harmed

It is posts like this that really are unfair and why the internet is bad. It allows someone who has no clue to make an emotional post based on their feelings about a person they don’t even know.

You are making a lot of strong statements. You are basically saying the man doesn’t care about JMU athletics and wants to destroy everything he spent his entire career building.

My perspective is he is trying his best to schedule a season and play for an FCS championship when his conference was one of the first to bail. He was disappointed with the CAAs decision. He knows he has NFL prospects and knew they might decide to enter the portal if JMU did not play. He knows that for JMU to continue to be been as a serious athletics program, he had to try to salvage a season. He knows he has to do all he can to give his student athletes a chance to play their senior season. He is spent the money to bring athletes back in JULY instead of cancelling the season. The rest of the CAA saved their pennies and did not even try to have a season.

Some of you think scheduling is easy. FCS teams won’t play us because they are scheduling a loss that could eliminate them from playoff consideration. FBS teams won’t play us because losing to an FCS school can cost an FBS coach his job. Some of you think it is as easy as picking up the phone and saying “hey, let’s play”. There is value to other FCS programs if JMU doesn’t play this fall. One less hurdle to face in the playoffs.

Unlike you, I know Jeff Bourne and I find your post incredibly offensive and extremely immature. You don’t know how lucky we are to have this guy as our AD. I can promise you no one cares more about JMU athletics than he does. He doesn’t need to do any of the things your emotional rant accuses him of doing. The easy out was for him to use the CAAs decision as a reason to cancel the season and save the school significant dollars.

Yes, my post is emotional, based on feelings about this situation---and you shouldn't take personal offense to anything that may be said about a public figure. Because Bourne could be the nicest person to ever live, and he may be that person---however, his public actions (or the actions of any public figure) are open to critique.

You said, "Some of you think scheduling is easy. FCS teams won’t play us because they are scheduling a loss that could eliminate them from playoff consideration. FBS teams won’t play us because losing to an FCS school can cost an FBS coach his job. Some of you think it is as easy as picking up the phone and saying “hey, let’s play”

I never said scheduling is easy, and I know that FCS and FBS teams won't play us. The FCS model JMU built is part of this reason. But at this current, specific moment---with all the cancellations---there are games to be had. Madia even wrote an entire article about a JMU mock schedule. Don't expect they have a schedule right now, just hoping they putting one together.

As I've said multiple times---if there is a season, JMU must play the season to protect the brand. Simple as that!! JMU/Bourne has created a brand that stands head-and-shoulders above any CAA team (excluding NDSU). And this I know for a fact--in the recruiting circles, JMU is NOT even considered an FCS school. In recruiting circles, JMU is looked at by players, recruits, and coaches as as good as any G5 school. JMU out recruits many CUSA, Sun Belt, and MAC schools. In recruiting circles taking JMU over ODU, Kent State, Coastal, Charlotte, Etc, etc, is a NO brainer. In recruiting circles, it's even considered a better "football look" than your low tiered P5's like Rutgers, WF, Duke. Those are FACTS!! And it's due to what the JMU athletic department has built.

Since you know Bourne, then please get him that message. Please tell him that I implore him to do everything he can to protect the brand he's built. Tell him I am content with the FCS bully boy model they've built. Being the premier brand of the FCS (next to NDSU) has it's many benefits. It helps with all those things like fan support, donation, recruiting, enrollment, exposure, profile. It's probably a much better model than being some G5 also ran---like ODU, Charlotte, Coastal, the GSU's, the F*U's, etc, etc, etc,---But if you don't play in 2020 this brand takes a hit. Those pseudo G5 selling points are gone.

If the FCS playoffs are cancelled or moved to the spring, it will be interesting to see if we play this fall or follow other CAA teams to a possible spring season. To me, that decision will make a strong statement.

Like some have said, I thought the NCAA would make the decision for Bourne. Now JMU may need to make their own decision.

If there are no playoffs, I would rather play this fall against 3-4 FBS teams with the rest being FCS teams.

(08-06-2020 01:26 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  Does a player who enters the transfer portal immediately stop practicing with the team? Or is that a player to player, program/coaching decision?

I understand a player may change their mind, and withdraw their name from the transfer portal, but is their scholarship withdrawn immediately on the player’s declaring their intent to test the transfer waters? And thus a player would have to have their scholarship restored by the program if the player decides to stay?

Bottom line, what downside risk or consequence does a player face by declaring their intent to transfer? I’m sure someone has read the relatively new rules and regulations that govern this situation and can enlighten me and others.

A player like Amos will have opportunities to play for another team who actually plays this Fall, but it seems (to me) his decision to try and play elsewhere by transferring could place him in a position of holding a bag of air. If the Pros don’t already have him on their radar I’m not sure a transfer is going to help his opportunity/situation to play on Sundays.

Here are 2 good links about the transfer portal. The first is from the NCAA website. The second link is an article specific to UNLV b-Ball---but it answers many questions about how the portal works.

http://www.ncaa.org/static/champion/what...portal-is/

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2019/may/06...rtal-work/

"is their scholarship withdrawn immediately on the player’s declaring their intent to test the transfer waters?"

Quote from first link
"The downside for student-athletes is that their current school can reduce or stop giving them athletics aid at the end of the term in which the request was made to enter the Transfer Portal....If student-athletes withdraw from the portal, the original school can return them to the roster and restore athletics aid if it chooses."

As far as Amos' draft prospects. He's rated a the #2 FS in the FCS. He's probably looking at being drafted in the 6th or 7th round at this point.
https://draftscout.com/div.php?CFBDivisi...&order=ASC

(08-06-2020 07:59 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  I will say though, that entering the transfer portal on August 5 sure feels like some player tampering to me b/c the timing is really odd to get acclimated to a new team. My gut tells me he was approached by a team and already has a landing spot.........

Also seems staff may have been prepared? Find it a little too coincidental that we pick up a transfer safety a day or two before our starter announces leaving.

(08-06-2020 08:20 AM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-06-2020 01:26 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  Does a player who enters the transfer portal immediately stop practicing with the team? Or is that a player to player, program/coaching decision?

I understand a player may change their mind, and withdraw their name from the transfer portal, but is their scholarship withdrawn immediately on the player’s declaring their intent to test the transfer waters? And thus a player would have to have their scholarship restored by the program if the player decides to stay?

Bottom line, what downside risk or consequence does a player face by declaring their intent to transfer? I’m sure someone has read the relatively new rules and regulations that govern this situation and can enlighten me and others.

A player like Amos will have opportunities to play for another team who actually plays this Fall, but it seems (to me) his decision to try and play elsewhere by transferring could place him in a position of holding a bag of air. If the Pros don’t already have him on their radar I’m not sure a transfer is going to help his opportunity/situation to play on Sundays.

Here are 2 good links about the transfer portal. The first is from the NCAA website. The second link is an article specific to UNLV b-Ball---but it answers many questions about how the portal works.

http://www.ncaa.org/static/champion/what...portal-is/

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2019/may/06...rtal-work/

"is their scholarship withdrawn immediately on the player’s declaring their intent to test the transfer waters?"

Quote from first link
"The downside for student-athletes is that their current school can reduce or stop giving them athletics aid at the end of the term in which the request was made to enter the Transfer Portal....If student-athletes withdraw from the portal, the original school can return them to the roster and restore athletics aid if it chooses."

As far as Amos' draft prospects. He's rated a the #2 FS in the FCS. He's probably looking at being drafted in the 6th or 7th round at this point.
https://draftscout.com/div.php?CFBDivisi...&order=ASC

Dang - this is heart breaking.

Kid wanted to finish career at JMU, but for his potential professional career he feels he needs to transfer due to uncertainty of Covid/FCS this year.



BTW - Camp is not scheduled to start until tomorrow (Friday 8-7-20).

(08-06-2020 08:03 AM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-06-2020 06:48 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 07:46 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 07:25 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  DeAngelo Amos enters the transfer portal. Sucks.

https://twitter.com/almostfamos_/status/...44609?s=21

And there's the answer on the 2020 football season. I would think that your senior leader got word to get ahead of this because there won't be a season.

So much for Bourne's foot dragging and stringing the fans along about a season. He NEVER intended to put together a season. He ONLY intended to string us all along so he could make it look like he was trying to play a season. Bourne expected the NCAA to bail him out all along by cancelling the playoffs. He never expected the NCAA to flip the script and put it on the schools and conferences to decide.

Bringing all these kids back in early July----when JMU already suspected the CAA was going to cancel the season----housing, feeding, testing, training, practicing---this was alot of time, money and effort. JMU is supposed to suit up on Friday to start fall camp---are they gonna keep up this charade now that they've lost a senior leader??

This is the first JMU domino to fall. I'd expect more seniors to hit the portal. I'd expect coaches to look for greener pastures. I'd expect commits to open up recruitment.

You can't got around telling coaches, players, and recruits you're as good as any G5 then bail on a season when the G5 plays. Can't be expected to run that same game on donors and fans either. If JMU does not play this season---and there is a season---the brand is irreparably harmed

It is posts like this that really are unfair and why the internet is bad. It allows someone who has no clue to make an emotional post based on their feelings about a person they don’t even know.

You are making a lot of strong statements. You are basically saying the man doesn’t care about JMU athletics and wants to destroy everything he spent his entire career building.

My perspective is he is trying his best to schedule a season and play for an FCS championship when his conference was one of the first to bail. He was disappointed with the CAAs decision. He knows he has NFL prospects and knew they might decide to enter the portal if JMU did not play. He knows that for JMU to continue to be been as a serious athletics program, he had to try to salvage a season. He knows he has to do all he can to give his student athletes a chance to play their senior season. He is spent the money to bring athletes back in JULY instead of cancelling the season. The rest of the CAA saved their pennies and did not even try to have a season.

Some of you think scheduling is easy. FCS teams won’t play us because they are scheduling a loss that could eliminate them from playoff consideration. FBS teams won’t play us because losing to an FCS school can cost an FBS coach his job. Some of you think it is as easy as picking up the phone and saying “hey, let’s play”. There is value to other FCS programs if JMU doesn’t play this fall. One less hurdle to face in the playoffs.

Unlike you, I know Jeff Bourne and I find your post incredibly offensive and extremely immature. You don’t know how lucky we are to have this guy as our AD. I can promise you no one cares more about JMU athletics than he does. He doesn’t need to do any of the things your emotional rant accuses him of doing. The easy out was for him to use the CAAs decision as a reason to cancel the season and save the school significant dollars.

Yes, my post is emotional, based on feelings about this situation---and you shouldn't take personal offense to anything that may be said about a public figure. Because Bourne could be the nicest person to ever live, and he may be that person---however, his public actions (or the actions of any public figure) are open to critique.

You said, "Some of you think scheduling is easy. FCS teams won’t play us because they are scheduling a loss that could eliminate them from playoff consideration. FBS teams won’t play us because losing to an FCS school can cost an FBS coach his job. Some of you think it is as easy as picking up the phone and saying “hey, let’s play”

I never said scheduling is easy, and I know that FCS and FBS teams won't play us. The FCS model JMU built is part of this reason. But at this current, specific moment---with all the cancellations---there are games to be had. Madia even wrote an entire article about a JMU mock schedule. Don't expect they have a schedule right now, just hoping they putting one together.

As I've said multiple times---if there is a season, JMU must play the season to protect the brand. Simple as that!! JMU/Bourne has created a brand that stands head-and-shoulders above any CAA team (excluding NDSU). And this I know for a fact--in the recruiting circles, JMU is NOT even considered an FCS school. In recruiting circles, JMU is looked at by players, recruits, and coaches as as good as any G5 school. JMU out recruits many CUSA, Sun Belt, and MAC schools. In recruiting circles taking JMU over ODU, Kent State, Coastal, Charlotte, Etc, etc, is a NO brainer. In recruiting circles, it's even considered a better "football look" than your low tiered P5's like Rutgers, WF, Duke. Those are FACTS!! And it's due to what the JMU athletic department has built.

Since you know Bourne, then please get him that message. Please tell him that I implore him to do everything he can to protect the brand he's built. Tell him I am content with the FCS bully boy model they've built. Being the premier brand of the FCS (next to NDSU) has it's many benefits. It helps with all those things like fan support, donation, recruiting, enrollment, exposure, profile. It's probably a much better model than being some G5 also ran---like ODU, Charlotte, Coastal, the GSU's, the F*U's, etc, etc, etc,---But if you don't play in 2020 this brand takes a hit. Those pseudo G5 selling points are gone.

you are making no sense.

everything you just stated in your own replay to your initial emotional response is actually happening.

is JMU willing to play the season? Yes. they have said so repeatedly iN PUBLIC
Is JMU trying to put together a schedule? Yes. they have said so repeatedly
is it difficult to put that schedule together? YES. Even you acknowledge this.

what exactly are you bent out of shape about?

can you offer some suggestions that people can pass on to Bourne? I'm sure he'd love to hear some great ideas that might help in this incredibly unforeseen and ever changing landscape.

(08-06-2020 08:23 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  

(08-06-2020 07:59 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  I will say though, that entering the transfer portal on August 5 sure feels like some player tampering to me b/c the timing is really odd to get acclimated to a new team. My gut tells me he was approached by a team and already has a landing spot.........

Also seems staff may have been prepared? Find it a little too coincidental that we pick up a transfer safety a day or two before our starter announces leaving.

Yep. seems like this was coming.

and let's not forget, MANY other schools have lost grad transfers. in FBS and FCS. Let's wait to see how many UConn guys bail in the next few days.

Villanova, Towson (a QB transfered in from Weber, then left right after because of Covid cancelling Towson's season), NDSU....to think it wouldn't effect us with all that is going on is just unrealistic and naive.

throwing shade and blame at people expecting them to have prevented this is just silliness.

(08-06-2020 08:23 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  

(08-06-2020 07:59 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  I will say though, that entering the transfer portal on August 5 sure feels like some player tampering to me b/c the timing is really odd to get acclimated to a new team. My gut tells me he was approached by a team and already has a landing spot.........

Also seems staff may have been prepared? Find it a little too coincidental that we pick up a transfer safety a day or two before our starter announces leaving.

Exactly and to be honest I think we will be just fine.

At safety I think we will be fine with Hampton, Chris C., Que Reid, along with newcomers.

Amos was a really good punt return guy (after first half of last season when he was dropping a lot of them) but in my opinion was a very average FCS safety.

(08-06-2020 06:48 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 07:46 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 07:25 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  DeAngelo Amos enters the transfer portal. Sucks.

https://twitter.com/almostfamos_/status/...44609?s=21

And there's the answer on the 2020 football season. I would think that your senior leader got word to get ahead of this because there won't be a season.

So much for Bourne's foot dragging and stringing the fans along about a season. He NEVER intended to put together a season. He ONLY intended to string us all along so he could make it look like he was trying to play a season. Bourne expected the NCAA to bail him out all along by cancelling the playoffs. He never expected the NCAA to flip the script and put it on the schools and conferences to decide.

Bringing all these kids back in early July----when JMU already suspected the CAA was going to cancel the season----housing, feeding, testing, training, practicing---this was alot of time, money and effort. JMU is supposed to suit up on Friday to start fall camp---are they gonna keep up this charade now that they've lost a senior leader??

This is the first JMU domino to fall. I'd expect more seniors to hit the portal. I'd expect coaches to look for greener pastures. I'd expect commits to open up recruitment.

You can't got around telling coaches, players, and recruits you're as good as any G5 then bail on a season when the G5 plays. Can't be expected to run that same game on donors and fans either. If JMU does not play this season---and there is a season---the brand is irreparably harmed

It is posts like this that really are unfair and why the internet is bad. It allows someone who has no clue to make an emotional post based on their feelings about a person they don’t even know.

You are making a lot of strong statements. You are basically saying the man doesn’t care about JMU athletics and wants to destroy everything he spent his entire career building.

My perspective is he is trying his best to schedule a season and play for an FCS championship when his conference was one of the first to bail. He was disappointed with the CAAs decision. He knows he has NFL prospects and knew they might decide to enter the portal if JMU did not play. He knows that for JMU to continue to be been as a serious athletics program, he had to try to salvage a season. He knows he has to do all he can to give his student athletes a chance to play their senior season. He is spent the money to bring athletes back in JULY instead of cancelling the season. The rest of the CAA saved their pennies and did not even try to have a season.

Some of you think scheduling is easy. FCS teams won’t play us because they are scheduling a loss that could eliminate them from playoff consideration. FBS teams won’t play us because losing to an FCS school can cost an FBS coach his job. Some of you think it is as easy as picking up the phone and saying “hey, let’s play”. There is value to other FCS programs if JMU doesn’t play this fall. One less hurdle to face in the playoffs.

Unlike you, I know Jeff Bourne and I find your post incredibly offensive and extremely immature. You don’t know how lucky we are to have this guy as our AD. I can promise you no one cares more about JMU athletics than he does. He doesn’t need to do any of the things your emotional rant accuses him of doing. The easy out was for him to use the CAAs decision as a reason to cancel the season and save the school significant dollars.

For the most part I agree with you Nation.

I think it's obvious Jeff and JMU are doing everything they can to allow for the team to play. It's ridiculous to think this is/was all a game.

It's appeared from the start that JMU has made it clear, if there is FCS football this year, they want to be part of it. To do that they had to bring the players back in July. Additionally, worst case scenario they get some additional time with the team to offset the missing spring practices.

People are way too cynical on this whole situation. They are over thinking this.
Schools are taking Covid seriously. There are a ton of unknowns. Schools are moving forward, taking it day by day, reviewing the new daily info they are receiving.

Every one time FCS team that is now FBS successfully scheduled FBS games, and got paid, generally more than JMU.

We need higher quality negotiators; not accountants whining that it so hard to schedule games because we are so great.

If FBS teams are willing to pay $500,000 to JMU to play a football game - how can you contend that it is difficult to schedule these games - we are getting paid to play.

(08-06-2020 02:46 PM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  Every one time FCS team that is now FBS successfully scheduled FBS games, and got paid, generally more than JMU.

We need higher quality negotiators; not accountants whining that it so hard to schedule games because we are so great.

If FBS teams are willing to pay $500,000 to JMU to play a football game - how can you contend that it is difficult to schedule these games - we are getting paid to play.

Dukeman, do I sense a negative tone in your post?

I must me misreading your post.

(08-06-2020 08:03 AM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-06-2020 06:48 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 07:46 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 07:25 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  DeAngelo Amos enters the transfer portal. Sucks.

https://twitter.com/almostfamos_/status/...44609?s=21

And there's the answer on the 2020 football season. I would think that your senior leader got word to get ahead of this because there won't be a season.

So much for Bourne's foot dragging and stringing the fans along about a season. He NEVER intended to put together a season. He ONLY intended to string us all along so he could make it look like he was trying to play a season. Bourne expected the NCAA to bail him out all along by cancelling the playoffs. He never expected the NCAA to flip the script and put it on the schools and conferences to decide.

Bringing all these kids back in early July----when JMU already suspected the CAA was going to cancel the season----housing, feeding, testing, training, practicing---this was alot of time, money and effort. JMU is supposed to suit up on Friday to start fall camp---are they gonna keep up this charade now that they've lost a senior leader??

This is the first JMU domino to fall. I'd expect more seniors to hit the portal. I'd expect coaches to look for greener pastures. I'd expect commits to open up recruitment.

You can't got around telling coaches, players, and recruits you're as good as any G5 then bail on a season when the G5 plays. Can't be expected to run that same game on donors and fans either. If JMU does not play this season---and there is a season---the brand is irreparably harmed

It is posts like this that really are unfair and why the internet is bad. It allows someone who has no clue to make an emotional post based on their feelings about a person they don’t even know.

You are making a lot of strong statements. You are basically saying the man doesn’t care about JMU athletics and wants to destroy everything he spent his entire career building.

My perspective is he is trying his best to schedule a season and play for an FCS championship when his conference was one of the first to bail. He was disappointed with the CAAs decision. He knows he has NFL prospects and knew they might decide to enter the portal if JMU did not play. He knows that for JMU to continue to be been as a serious athletics program, he had to try to salvage a season. He knows he has to do all he can to give his student athletes a chance to play their senior season. He is spent the money to bring athletes back in JULY instead of cancelling the season. The rest of the CAA saved their pennies and did not even try to have a season.

Some of you think scheduling is easy. FCS teams won’t play us because they are scheduling a loss that could eliminate them from playoff consideration. FBS teams won’t play us because losing to an FCS school can cost an FBS coach his job. Some of you think it is as easy as picking up the phone and saying “hey, let’s play”. There is value to other FCS programs if JMU doesn’t play this fall. One less hurdle to face in the playoffs.

Unlike you, I know Jeff Bourne and I find your post incredibly offensive and extremely immature. You don’t know how lucky we are to have this guy as our AD. I can promise you no one cares more about JMU athletics than he does. He doesn’t need to do any of the things your emotional rant accuses him of doing. The easy out was for him to use the CAAs decision as a reason to cancel the season and save the school significant dollars.

Yes, my post is emotional, based on feelings about this situation---and you shouldn't take personal offense to anything that may be said about a public figure. Because Bourne could be the nicest person to ever live, and he may be that person---however, his public actions (or the actions of any public figure) are open to critique.

You said, "Some of you think scheduling is easy. FCS teams won’t play us because they are scheduling a loss that could eliminate them from playoff consideration. FBS teams won’t play us because losing to an FCS school can cost an FBS coach his job. Some of you think it is as easy as picking up the phone and saying “hey, let’s play”

I never said scheduling is easy, and I know that FCS and FBS teams won't play us. The FCS model JMU built is part of this reason. But at this current, specific moment---with all the cancellations---there are games to be had. Madia even wrote an entire article about a JMU mock schedule. Don't expect they have a schedule right now, just hoping they putting one together.

As I've said multiple times---if there is a season, JMU must play the season to protect the brand. Simple as that!! JMU/Bourne has created a brand that stands head-and-shoulders above any CAA team (excluding NDSU). And this I know for a fact--in the recruiting circles, JMU is NOT even considered an FCS school. In recruiting circles, JMU is looked at by players, recruits, and coaches as as good as any G5 school. JMU out recruits many CUSA, Sun Belt, and MAC schools. In recruiting circles taking JMU over ODU, Kent State, Coastal, Charlotte, Etc, etc, is a NO brainer. In recruiting circles, it's even considered a better "football look" than your low tiered P5's like Rutgers, WF, Duke. Those are FACTS!! And it's due to what the JMU athletic department has built.

Since you know Bourne, then please get him that message. Please tell him that I implore him to do everything he can to protect the brand he's built. Tell him I am content with the FCS bully boy model they've built. Being the premier brand of the FCS (next to NDSU) has it's many benefits. It helps with all those things like fan support, donation, recruiting, enrollment, exposure, profile. It's probably a much better model than being some G5 also ran---like ODU, Charlotte, Coastal, the GSU's, the F*U's, etc, etc, etc,---But if you don't play in 2020 this brand takes a hit. Those pseudo G5 selling points are gone.

I can assure you he knows and agrees the importance of protecting the brand that has been built.

(08-06-2020 02:46 PM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  Every one time FCS team that is now FBS successfully scheduled FBS games, and got paid, generally more than JMU.

We need higher quality negotiators; not accountants whining that it so hard to schedule games because we are so great.

If FBS teams are willing to pay $500,000 to JMU to play a football game - how can you contend that it is difficult to schedule these games - we are getting paid to play.

Very good point, and I agree. Scheduling quality games is not that difficult. P5s are paying us big bucks to play. The fairy tale that JMU is SOOOOOOOOOOO good that P5s are terrified to play us is BS.

(08-06-2020 11:05 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(08-06-2020 02:46 PM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  Every one time FCS team that is now FBS successfully scheduled FBS games, and got paid, generally more than JMU.

We need higher quality negotiators; not accountants whining that it so hard to schedule games because we are so great.

If FBS teams are willing to pay $500,000 to JMU to play a football game - how can you contend that it is difficult to schedule these games - we are getting paid to play.

Very good point, and I agree. Scheduling quality games is not that difficult. P5s are paying us big bucks to play. The fairy tale that JMU is SOOOOOOOOOOO good that P5s are terrified to play us is BS.

You shouldn’t make blanket statements like this. A top 25 FBS school isn’t afraid of JMU but the ones who aren’t as good are. It really hurts an FBS coaches chance of being retained when they lose to an FCS school. You can’t deny that. FCS schools are only scheduled because they are supposed to be easy wins.

In the last ten years, JMU has beaten VT, ECU and SMU. They have taken WVU and NCST down to the wire. For you to say what you posted makes you look stupid and you are not stupid. Dukeman is stupid though. He is incredibly stupid. I know because I just spoke to him two hours ago.

Adeeb atariwa enters the transfer portal.

This is such a nightmare.

Did you tell him for longevity’s sake that he should convert his word document of old newspaper articles into a google doc so he can copy/paste outdated info here forever & ever?

Atariwa enters the portal.

I doubt he’ll be the last,

And I doubt jmu will be the only school effected.

Any Senior fcs player who has realistic draft prospects and can grad transfer is going to enter the portal and try and find an fbs home.

The floodgates will open next week I bet.

And you can’t blame them. They are grad transfers, meaning, they already graduated. The are doing one last semester of school to play football and enhance their nfl prospects. These guys won’t be in school in spring so playing then does them no good. From their individual perspective, it totally makes sense to open all options by getting in the portal.

Despite the anger crowd going cra cra, no one at jmu or ncaa is to blame. It’s all COVID. Sucks, but nothing could have been done to prevent this. It’s naive to think othwewise

(08-07-2020 11:01 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  Atariwa enters the portal.

I doubt he’ll be the last,

And I doubt jmu will be the only school effected.

Any Senior fcs player who has realistic draft prospects and can grad transfer is going to enter the portal and try and find an fbs home.

The floodgates will open next week I bet.

And you can’t blame them. They are grad transfers, meaning, they already graduated. The are doing one last semester of school to play football and enhance their nfl prospects. These guys won’t be in school in spring so playing then does them no good. From their individual perspective, it totally makes sense to open all options by getting in the portal.

Despite the anger crowd going cra cra, no one at jmu or ncaa is to blame. It’s all COVID. Sucks, but nothing could have been done to prevent this. It’s naive to think othwewise

Yup. Have to think Fornadel will be going as well and the running back room could lose a guy or two. The only thing that could stop this Is if he FBS shuts down as well, which is still a distinct possibility despite just about everyone releasing updated conference schedules. With more and more schools making last minute switch to virtual learning for the fall semester, it will be very difficult to justifying bringing back football players only when a school switches to virtual only.

I refuse to quote the guy, so I'll just say this:
It must be quite an existence to believe an apple = orange.

Not all FBS/FCS deals are the same. And to suggest that this is just like any other year is asinine. It is a challenge to schedule opponents and especially now. Any other year, I'm sure if we were so desperate for a game, we would be willing to travel. And speaking of travel, do I really need to explain how a school in one state would have a completely different issue with scheduling than one in another? And then add on to the fact that some of those schools may not want to play you or have a space open to play. Perhaps there's an FCS school on the west coast that can find a last minute FBS school. JMU is looking for opponents they can drive to and be safe. This isn't any other year on the planet for scheduling and hopefully it will never be again. Stop comparing scheduling issues in the past to what is going on now. Seriously... STOP IT.

And regardless of all of this, giving JMU crap for claiming they are messing around is careless. Can anyone honestly know what will happen a month from now? JMU didn't, but they certainly weren't going to write the season off early like the CAA did. They were willing to give it time to see what would happen. Guess what? Not much has changed and if playing the season puts players at risk, JMU will not do it. Nor will most schools that haven't announced it yet.
JMU is many things, but one thing it is not is careless. I would rather see JMU lose every player to the transfer portal than play a season that could put someone's life at risk. But the players are low risk you say? What about the staff (football and event), family members and anyone these players will be interacting with?
I still don't think there will be a football season played this fall of any sort and spring is the best option right now (which is a bad option). Even then, that option may not happen either if things don't improve significantly.

And now mvfc is moving to spring.

Ndsu, sdsu, uni....they will all start losing guys.

Will be interesting to see what lance does.

He hasn’t graduated so would have to sit out if he’s transfers now. But playing in spring could impact his draft prep.

If he has big eyes on nfl, I’d bet he opts out and goes through private draft prep rather than play in spring. In scouts eyes, they already have him as a first round pick, so nothing left to prove to them