Pretty good showing


1. LSU
2. Clemson
3. Ohio State
4. Georgia
5. Oregon
6. Florida
7. Oklahoma
8. Alabama
9. Penn State
10. Minnesota
11. Wisconsin
12. Notre Dame
13. Baylor
14. Auburn
15. Iowa
16. Utah
17. Memphis
18. Michigan
19. Appalachian State
20. Navy
21. Cincinnati
22. Air Force
23. Boise State
24. UCF
25. Texas


https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-fo...p-25-2019/

(01-14-2020 08:50 AM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  Pretty good showing

And from three different conferences.

Strong. I like the balance of leagues. Was a fine year overall for the G5.

And 2 military academies. Army had a good season last year and fell below expectations this season. It’s been good for the academies! I’m impressed with UCF - to lose the players they did and still finish ranked says a lot.

Conference ooc win % vs. FBS
The order corresponds exactly with the number of
ranked teams by conference-Big 10-6, SEC-5, AAC-4, Big 12-3, Pac 12-2, MWC-2, ACC-1, SB-1, Ind-1

BIG 10 6 34 13 72.34%
SEC 5 35 16 68.63%
AAC 4 28 17 62.22%
BIG 12 3 16 11 59.26%
PAC 12 2 20 15 57.14%
MWC 2 23 21 52.27%
ACC 1 26 26 50.00%
SUN BELT 1 15 20 42.86%
IND 1 22 35 38.60%
USA 15 36 29.41%
MAC 10 34 22.73%

(01-14-2020 09:32 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  And 2 military academies. Army had a good season last year and fell below expectations this season. It’s been good for the academies! I’m impressed with UCF - to lose the players they did and still finish ranked says a lot.

I 'hate' UCF but still was glad to see them finish top 25. IMO they were a good team unfairly written off after the early losses.

Memphis was fortunate not to have to play them.

And receiving votes:

Texas A&M 54, Florida Atlantic 46, Washington 39, Virginia 28, USC 16, San Diego State 13, Arizona State 12, SMU 10, Tennessee 8, California 6, Louisiana Tech 2, Kentucky 2, Kansas State 2, Louisiana-Lafayette 2

Additional:

AAC - 1
C-USA - 2
MWC - 1
Sun Belt - 1

I think for a good G5 it helps to be in G5 to finish ranked.as you can rack up 9 or more wins easier.

I doubt most of those 7 finish ranked if they played in P5 conferences. Navy probably goes 6-6 in the SEC or B1G. Most others as well.

(01-14-2020 10:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I think for a good G5 it helps to be in G5 to finish ranked.as you can rack up 9 or more wins easier.

I doubt most of those 7 finish ranked if they played in P5 conferences. Navy probably goes 6-6 in the SEC or B1G. Most others as well.

Yeah no way Cincinnati or Memphis finishes with 10 wins if they played Pitt's schedule in the ACC: Virginia, Duke, Syracuse, Miami FL, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Virginia Tech and BC...


well... then again maybe they would..

Indiana, Kentucky, & Tennessee went 8-5 in the B1G & SEC. Very little doubt all 7 G5 teams would go at least 8-5 with the same schedules.

(01-14-2020 11:28 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 10:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I think for a good G5 it helps to be in G5 to finish ranked.as you can rack up 9 or more wins easier.

I doubt most of those 7 finish ranked if they played in P5 conferences. Navy probably goes 6-6 in the SEC or B1G. Most others as well.

Yeah no way Cincinnati or Memphis finishes with 10 wins if they played Pitt's schedule in the ACC: Virginia, Duke, Syracuse, Miami FL, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Virginia Tech and BC...


well... then again maybe they would..

Well since the ACC was a borderline G5 conference this year, you are probably right. So I should have limited my claim to the 4 actual "P" conferences this year. Then again I did use the B1G and SEC as my examples.

(01-14-2020 12:08 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 11:28 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 10:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I think for a good G5 it helps to be in G5 to finish ranked.as you can rack up 9 or more wins easier.

I doubt most of those 7 finish ranked if they played in P5 conferences. Navy probably goes 6-6 in the SEC or B1G. Most others as well.

Yeah no way Cincinnati or Memphis finishes with 10 wins if they played Pitt's schedule in the ACC: Virginia, Duke, Syracuse, Miami FL, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Virginia Tech and BC...


well... then again maybe they would..

Well since the ACC was a borderline G5 conference this year, you are probably right. So I should have limited my claim to the 4 actual "P" conferences this year. Then again I did use the B1G and SEC as my examples.

Using Massey's matchup widget, I put in Florida's SEC schedule home and away for Navy. 5-3.
Navy's Army, Air Force, ND schedule isn't changing regardless of conference home, so Massey has 8-4 for Navy in the SEC East.

AAC has 4 ranked, more than the rest of the G4 combined. Also more than the ACC and PAC-12 combined. P6 on the field.

LOL, the G5 has 7.

No the AAC has 4, that is the whole reason the G5 has 7 and not less.

AAC 4, the rest of the G4 3 total.

(01-14-2020 10:16 AM)bullet Wrote:  Conference ooc win % vs. FBS
The order corresponds exactly with the number of
ranked teams by conference-Big 10-6, SEC-5, AAC-4, Big 12-3, Pac 12-2, MWC-2, ACC-1, SB-1, Ind-1

BIG 10 6 34 13 72.34%
SEC 5 35 16 68.63%
AAC 4 28 17 62.22%
BIG 12 3 16 11 59.26%
PAC 12 2 20 15 57.14%
MWC 2 23 21 52.27%
ACC 1 26 26 50.00%
SUN BELT 1 15 20 42.86%
IND 1 22 35 38.60%
USA 15 36 29.41%
MAC 10 34 22.73%

Now that the data points are all in, I have to admit... ACC football was bad this year. Bad in the regular season. Bad in the bowl games. 2020 season can't come soon enough!

I thought FAU should have been ranked

(01-14-2020 02:21 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  I thought FAU should have been ranked

FAU and San Diego State.

(01-14-2020 02:38 PM)Reverend Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 02:21 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  I thought FAU should have been ranked

FAU and San Diego State.

#20 to #30 were interchangeable, but I wouldn't put FAU and SDSU in the top 30. SDSU is 31 in AP (FAU was 27).

Massey composite conference rankings (55 ratings in):
1. SEC 43.03
2. B12 46.53
3. B10 48.92
4. P12 49.76
5. AAC 60.25
6. ACC 60.39
7. MWC 74.59
8. SBC 82.57
9. Ind 84.90
10.CUSA 90.55
11.MAC 91.59

(01-14-2020 09:32 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  And 2 military academies. Army had a good season last year and fell below expectations this season.

If you had been told two military academies would finish the year in the top 25, you'd have lost an awful lot of money betting that one of them would have been Army.

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