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Colorado State VS Boise State
I am not saying Colorado State should not be invited to AAC. Rather, I think it best just to sit tight for the time being. Things change and perhaps the new CSU Football Coach can improve the program. Picked up this info off MWC board. Just another perspective.

Boise State is 9-0 against Colorado State.

2011: BSU 63, CSU 13
2012: BSU 42, CSU 14
2013: BSU 42, CSU 30
2014: BSU 37, CSU 24
2015: BSU 41, CSU 10
2016: BSU 28, CSU 23
2017: BSU 59, CSU 52
2018: BSU 56, CSU 28
2019: BSU 31, CSU 24

All-Time record against all teams:
Boise State: .731
Colorado State: .474
01-13-2020 08:27 PM
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RE: Colorado State VS Boise State
Colorado St trailed Idaho 41-7 in the 2016 Potato Bowl.
01-13-2020 08:34 PM
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RE: Colorado State VS Boise State
The difference between Colorado State and Boise State is that a diploma from Colorado State means something and has value.
01-13-2020 11:01 PM
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RE: Colorado State VS Boise State
(01-13-2020 11:01 PM)colohank Wrote:  The difference between Colorado State and Boise State is that a diploma from Colorado State means something and has value.

But you can drive an 18 wheeler with a smurf turf diploma...
01-13-2020 11:13 PM
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RE: Colorado State VS Boise State
(01-13-2020 11:13 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(01-13-2020 11:01 PM)colohank Wrote:  The difference between Colorado State and Boise State is that a diploma from Colorado State means something and has value.

But you can drive an 18 wheeler with a smurf turf diploma...

Surely that can't be all? Do they have HVAC, Welding, Prison Gua... sorry, I mean Criminal Justice, and Licensed Practical Nurse?
01-15-2020 02:05 AM
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RE: Colorado State VS Boise State
(01-15-2020 02:05 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(01-13-2020 11:13 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(01-13-2020 11:01 PM)colohank Wrote:  The difference between Colorado State and Boise State is that a diploma from Colorado State means something and has value.

But you can drive an 18 wheeler with a smurf turf diploma...

Surely that can't be all? Do they have HVAC, Welding, Prison Gua... sorry, I mean Criminal Justice, and Licensed Practical Nurse?

We don’t even have those! I just looked at the website!
01-15-2020 08:25 AM
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RE: Colorado State VS Boise State
The AAC doesn't need either of them. Col state is closer, and that is the only advantage for them. The AAC has no good choices at this time.
01-15-2020 08:46 AM
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RE: Colorado State VS Boise State
(01-15-2020 02:05 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(01-13-2020 11:13 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(01-13-2020 11:01 PM)colohank Wrote:  The difference between Colorado State and Boise State is that a diploma from Colorado State means something and has value.

But you can drive an 18 wheeler with a smurf turf diploma...

Surely that can't be all? Do they have HVAC, Welding, Prison Gua... sorry, I mean Criminal Justice, and Licensed Practical Nurse?

If only people with those degrees could impact the world like BigBadBruce.
01-15-2020 09:22 AM
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RE: Colorado State VS Boise State
I think the Tulane addition says a lot.
Not great or even good athletically .
They are elite academically have a great recruiting area and market.
Someone in the conference has to be Vanderbilt or Oregon St .
There is no USC or Alabama addition checking all the boxes.

You cannot call yourself P5 with a low level school even if their a football factory. Long term CSU could hire a great coach and have every advantage. Where adding a poor overall fit brings the conference down.
01-15-2020 09:31 AM
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(01-15-2020 09:31 AM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  I think the Tulane addition says a lot.
Not great or even good athletically .
They are elite academically have a great recruiting area and market.
Someone in the conference has to be Vanderbilt or Oregon St .
There is no USC or Alabama addition checking all the boxes.

You cannot call yourself P5 with a low level school even if their a football factory. Long term CSU could hire a great coach and have every advantage. Where adding a poor overall fit brings the conference down.

Tulane may not be a great example, their addition to the old Big East literally caused 7 of the best non-football-playing members to break apart the conference and take the name and basketball conference tournament location with them.
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RE: Colorado State VS Boise State
(01-15-2020 09:22 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(01-15-2020 02:05 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(01-13-2020 11:13 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(01-13-2020 11:01 PM)colohank Wrote:  The difference between Colorado State and Boise State is that a diploma from Colorado State means something and has value.

But you can drive an 18 wheeler with a smurf turf diploma...

Surely that can't be all? Do they have HVAC, Welding, Prison Gua... sorry, I mean Criminal Justice, and Licensed Practical Nurse?

If only people with those degrees could impact the world like BigBadBruce.

I expect some of my former students can indeed impact the world, but my concern here is with the longevity of the "Truck Driving School" sneer if truck drivers are replaced by robots.
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(01-13-2020 08:27 PM)Out West Wrote:  I am not saying Colorado State should not be invited to AAC. Rather, I think it best just to sit tight for the time being. Things change and perhaps the new CSU Football Coach can improve the program. Picked up this info off MWC board. Just another perspective.

Boise State is 9-0 against Colorado State.

2011: BSU 63, CSU 13
2012: BSU 42, CSU 14
2013: BSU 42, CSU 30
2014: BSU 37, CSU 24
2015: BSU 41, CSU 10
2016: BSU 28, CSU 23
2017: BSU 59, CSU 52
2018: BSU 56, CSU 28
2019: BSU 31, CSU 24

All-Time record against all teams:
Boise State: .731
Colorado State: .474

I don't think the American will invite anyone. They are getting 12 shares of pay from ESPN with only 11 schools (counting Navy football + Wichita State Olympics combined as one school). Why add a mouth.

Boise State makes basically the same money, when you deduct the >$1M American schools kick back to ESPN for production fee. They have as good a path to the NY6 where they are as joining (maybe better). So they are not moving.

Colorado State has the money and building infrastructure to compete. But they have little on field success, so would probably be another Tulsa or East Carolina. As an institution they would raise the quality of the American. But they'd be an outlier like UConn was (not quite past tense, but I'm starting early) and that wont work for anyone.

It's short sighted to write off a school that would have the 3rd or 4th largest budget in the American and who has the strongest undergrad research program of any G5 school -- as a school they look more like a P5 than anyone save UMass, UConn and Rice. I think you guys look down on the growth in the West (and thus the future) as much as many used to look down on the growth in the South. Colorado passed Minnesota in population and will soon pass Wisconsin and Maryland. This growth is not hitting the wall like California, it's still zooming along like Texas and Florida.
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