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(01-17-2020 01:40 PM)wiggle Wrote:  Wonder if we would take a look at Miami ast. Chris Caputo again? I know he was a finalist for the job when we eventually hired Kevin Keatts.

He has been long time right hand man of Jim Larranaga.

He's been a candidate for just about every mid-major job that's come open over the last few years. I think he wants to be his successor at Miami
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(01-17-2020 09:10 AM)BigDoubleU Wrote:  I would rather have Siddle or Byington.

I just can't believe we have to rebuild the program again! They should have just hired Siddle in the first place.

Imagine Siddle, with Blizzard on his staff. If success comes and Siddle more than likely would take a bigger schools draw, Blizzard could take over.

Wishful thinking.

Therein lies one of my hesitations with Siddle. I think he’d follow the Keatts footprint of get success get big money. Then we’d be left in a similar position hoping and praying the powers that be don’t upend the program the same way it happened after Keatts. You’d hope we learned our lesson there not to deviate from a style that works, but end of day not many of us if any have that much power.


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RE: Coaching speculation
(01-17-2020 02:11 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 09:10 AM)BigDoubleU Wrote:  I would rather have Siddle or Byington.

I just can't believe we have to rebuild the program again! They should have just hired Siddle in the first place.

Imagine Siddle, with Blizzard on his staff. If success comes and Siddle more than likely would take a bigger schools draw, Blizzard could take over.

Wishful thinking.

Therein lies one of my hesitations with Siddle. I think he’d follow the Keatts footprint of get success get big money. Then we’d be left in a similar position hoping and praying the powers that be don’t upend the program the same way it happened after Keatts. You’d hope we learned our lesson there not to deviate from a style that works, but end of day not many of us if any have that much power.


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Every single coach that we've had success under has left... Hire the best candidate possible, don't worry about anything else.
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RE: Coaching speculation
(01-17-2020 03:29 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 02:11 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 09:10 AM)BigDoubleU Wrote:  I would rather have Siddle or Byington.

I just can't believe we have to rebuild the program again! They should have just hired Siddle in the first place.

Imagine Siddle, with Blizzard on his staff. If success comes and Siddle more than likely would take a bigger schools draw, Blizzard could take over.

Wishful thinking.

Therein lies one of my hesitations with Siddle. I think he’d follow the Keatts footprint of get success get big money. Then we’d be left in a similar position hoping and praying the powers that be don’t upend the program the same way it happened after Keatts. You’d hope we learned our lesson there not to deviate from a style that works, but end of day not many of us if any have that much power.


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Every single coach that we've had success under has left... Hire the best candidate possible, don't worry about anything else.
As AD i think it you believe that to be the case, i'd try to make sure there was someone on the staff i'd trust to leave the keys with after
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RE: Coaching speculation
(01-17-2020 03:29 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 02:11 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 09:10 AM)BigDoubleU Wrote:  I would rather have Siddle or Byington.

I just can't believe we have to rebuild the program again! They should have just hired Siddle in the first place.

Imagine Siddle, with Blizzard on his staff. If success comes and Siddle more than likely would take a bigger schools draw, Blizzard could take over.

Wishful thinking.

Therein lies one of my hesitations with Siddle. I think he’d follow the Keatts footprint of get success get big money. Then we’d be left in a similar position hoping and praying the powers that be don’t upend the program the same way it happened after Keatts. You’d hope we learned our lesson there not to deviate from a style that works, but end of day not many of us if any have that much power.


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Every single coach that we've had success under has left... Hire the best candidate possible, don't worry about anything else.

Quite true.

I'll still hold out for some hope that one day we'll find a HC for basketball the same way we had Coach Scalf for baseball. I know it's very difficult for any school to achieve that, let alone a mid major with a constrained athletic budget.

I have hopes and dreams though. Hopes and friggin dreams.
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(01-17-2020 03:33 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 03:29 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 02:11 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 09:10 AM)BigDoubleU Wrote:  I would rather have Siddle or Byington.

I just can't believe we have to rebuild the program again! They should have just hired Siddle in the first place.

Imagine Siddle, with Blizzard on his staff. If success comes and Siddle more than likely would take a bigger schools draw, Blizzard could take over.

Wishful thinking.

Therein lies one of my hesitations with Siddle. I think he’d follow the Keatts footprint of get success get big money. Then we’d be left in a similar position hoping and praying the powers that be don’t upend the program the same way it happened after Keatts. You’d hope we learned our lesson there not to deviate from a style that works, but end of day not many of us if any have that much power.


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Every single coach that we've had success under has left... Hire the best candidate possible, don't worry about anything else.

Quite true.

I'll still hold out for some hope that one day we'll find a HC for basketball the same way we had Coach Scalf for baseball. I know it's very difficult for any school to achieve that, let alone a mid major with a constrained athletic budget.

I have hopes and dreams though. Hopes and friggin dreams.

I'm with you on this but we shouldn't have hesitations about a certain candidate because he might bolt for another program.
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RE: Coaching speculation
(01-17-2020 03:35 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 03:33 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 03:29 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 02:11 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 09:10 AM)BigDoubleU Wrote:  I would rather have Siddle or Byington.

I just can't believe we have to rebuild the program again! They should have just hired Siddle in the first place.

Imagine Siddle, with Blizzard on his staff. If success comes and Siddle more than likely would take a bigger schools draw, Blizzard could take over.

Wishful thinking.

Therein lies one of my hesitations with Siddle. I think he’d follow the Keatts footprint of get success get big money. Then we’d be left in a similar position hoping and praying the powers that be don’t upend the program the same way it happened after Keatts. You’d hope we learned our lesson there not to deviate from a style that works, but end of day not many of us if any have that much power.


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Every single coach that we've had success under has left... Hire the best candidate possible, don't worry about anything else.

Quite true.

I'll still hold out for some hope that one day we'll find a HC for basketball the same way we had Coach Scalf for baseball. I know it's very difficult for any school to achieve that, let alone a mid major with a constrained athletic budget.

I have hopes and dreams though. Hopes and friggin dreams.

I'm with you on this but we shouldn't have hesitations about a certain candidate because he might bolt for another program.

You're right. Plus, if we find the right guy we should do everything in our power to include beg, beg and beg some more for donation dollars towards extensions.
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(01-17-2020 03:33 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I'll still hold out for some hope that one day we'll find a HC for basketball the same way we had Coach Scalf for baseball.

College Baseball is just so different. A ton of coaches stay at one place seemingly forever. The list of winningest coaches in DI Baseball history is insane. Scalf won close to 1,000 games here and he's not even in the top 60 or 70 all-time. 57 coaches in DI history have won 1,100+ games, with the leader, retired FSU coach Mike Martin, finishing with 2,029 wins.
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Too much money in basketball for coaches to stay at a midmajor

If we had hired Siddle that would have been 2 generations of coaches with a connections in the same stop.

That is something coaches like as most want to cultivate opportunities for others they believe in
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Rumor has it that Nathan Davis, coach at Bucknell has expressed interest. He has a 230-84 record, with an upset of Kansas in the NCAA tournament.
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(01-18-2020 04:02 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Rumor has it that Nathan Davis, coach at Bucknell has expressed interest. He has a 230-84 record, with an upset of Kansas in the NCAA tournament.


If that’s the case that it is no brainer. By far best of all we have discussed


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(01-18-2020 04:02 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Rumor has it that Nathan Davis, coach at Bucknell has expressed interest. He has a 230-84 record, with an upset of Kansas in the NCAA tournament.

He was the top assistant for the Kansas win, not HC.

As HC at Bucknell the Bison have finished 1st or tied for 1st in the Patriot League all 4 years, with 2 titles plus an NIT bid. He’s won COY twice.

Slam dunk hire if that were the end result.
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(01-18-2020 04:02 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Rumor has it that Nathan Davis, coach at Bucknell has expressed interest. He has a 230-84 record, with an upset of Kansas in the NCAA tournament.

Would be a big time hire if true
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What is his salary at Bucknell? What would the buyout be if any? Just curious.

Why would he want to leave Bucknell?


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I didn't realize that Burke worked under Mark Byington at Georgia Southern as the Director of Operations for two seasons. If Burke doesn't get hired as HC and we went with Byington, maybe there's possibility that Burke can stay on as an assistant. I think Byington would be a good hire but I've also really like what I've seen from Coach Burke and would want to try everything possible to keep him part of the program
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(01-18-2020 05:04 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Why would he want to leave Bucknell?


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(01-18-2020 04:02 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Rumor has it that Nathan Davis, coach at Bucknell has expressed interest. He has a 230-84 record, with an upset of Kansas in the NCAA tournament.


Pretty impressive if true. Easily the best name t
to surface that has success at the midmajor level and throughout his career.

Nathan Davis Career Record: 230-84 (.732) -- 11th-best winning pct. among all active head coaches

Looking at some stats

2019-2020 Beat Hofstra 86-71, Lost to Penn State 70-98, Lost to Syracuse 46-97,
Overall 8-11, Conf 4-2

2018-2019 Beat St. Bonaventure, Lost to Ohio State by 2, beat Rhode Island by 2, beat UNLV by 25, lost to Northeastern 96-78. Overall record 21-12, Conf 13-5

2017-2018 Lost to UNC 81-93, lost to Maryland 78-80, lost to Northeastern 64-82, lost to VCU 79-85, beat Richmond 86-78, NCAA lost to Mich St. 78-82. Overall record 25-10 Conf 16-2

2016-2017 Lost to Wake Forest 74-94, Beat Vanderbilt 75-72, beat Richmond 73-68, NCAA lost to West Virgina 80-86. Overall 26-9 Conf 15-3

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What if Shocka Smart were to become available and land in our lap?
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(01-21-2020 12:16 PM)wiggle Wrote:  What if Shocka Smart were to become available and land in our lap?

His fall from grace has really been something. It's even got me questioning his success. You look at his VCU teams, he had some great assistants on his staff... If I'm Jimmy, I'd definitely consider him... but I would be hesitant to just throw the job at him.
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(01-21-2020 12:16 PM)wiggle Wrote:  What if Shocka Smart were to become available and land in our lap?

You hire him in a heartbeat. His style and coaching method may not work at Texas but it would 100 % work here.
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