(01-21-2020 12:16 PM)wiggle Wrote: What if Shocka Smart were to become available and land in our lap?
You hire him in a heartbeat. His style and coaching method may not work at Texas but it would 100 % work here.
He's abandoned the "havoc" style at Texas. He's let programs like Baylor, Texas Tech, and Houston overshadow his. I probably sound dumb, but that concerns me.
(01-21-2020 12:16 PM)wiggle Wrote: What if Shocka Smart were to become available and land in our lap?
You hire him in a heartbeat. His style and coaching method may not work at Texas but it would 100 % work here.
He's abandoned the "havoc" style at Texas. He's let programs like Baylor, Texas Tech, and Houston overshadow his. I probably sound dumb, but that concerns me.
Well then that would be the first question in any interview. He comes from the Pitino tree through Billy Donovan. Why give up on a style that works at this level, and is he willing to go back to that upon returning to a mid-major?
(01-21-2020 12:36 PM)82hawk Wrote: Y'all must be high.
LOL. I'll keep my Shaka Smart opinions to myself for now.
No, keep'em coming. Nothing like being the only dude in the room who's sober. This thread belongs on the delusional JMU board. They're all high too. I guess our next target will be Rick Pitino....
Why do people always have a dream that a coach who made it to a power conference is going to somehow take a massive step back to fix a mid major? If he were to get fired, y'all somehow think we're the only mid major to come calling or that we'd be his best option?
I get the whole shoot for the stars, land on the moon way of thinking but that's a seeeerious stretch in logic for me.
(01-21-2020 01:31 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote: I get the whole shoot for the stars, land on the moon way of thinking but that's a seeeerious stretch in logic for me.
(01-21-2020 01:31 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote: I get the whole shoot for the stars, land on the moon way of thinking but that's a seeeerious stretch in logic for me.
So you are saying there's a chance?
There is always a chance when it comes to basketball coaches. who are not working.
Congratulations to Coach Burke, his assistants, and his players for their game plans and execution last week. An amazing turn around. Hoping for their continued success.
Just to keep things in perspective concerning Coach Shaver, I'm copying part of a "NJ Alum" post from the W&M board that summarizes Coach Shaver's results.
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Over the last five years, W&M owns 96 overall victories, including 54 in CAA play. Both totals are tops in the CAA. The Tribe notched three-straight 20-win seasons in 2013-14, 2014-15 and 2015-16, marking just the second streak of three years in program history. The Green and Gold captured the CAA regular season Championship in 2015. Twice, Shaver led the program to berths in the National Invitation Tournament (NIT), only the second and third post season bids in program history.
In his 32 years as a collegiate head coach, he ranks among the active leaders in victories in college basketball. Over his career, Shaver-coached teams have won 20 or more games during 16 seasons and advanced to the post season on 13 occasions. Shaver enters 2018-19 ranked 18th among active Division I head coaches with 570 career victories. He became the 86th Division I head coach to win 500 games in 2014. His career win total ranks 63rd all-time among head coach with at least 10 years of Division I experience.
Under Shaver, the Tribe has peaked at the right time of year during the conference tournament. Prior to his arrival in 2004, W&M had just two CAA Tournament wins in 18 years as a member of the league. During Shaver’s 15 seasons, the Tribe owns 14 CAA Tournament victories and the program’s first four championship game appearances. In fact, since 2008, W&M leads all CAA programs with 13 league tournament victories. The Tribe has earned a spot in the CAA Semifinals each of the last five years, a first in W&M history.
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Whether or not Coach Shaver is a fit at UNCW, the man is a class act and an accomplished professional.
It's his recruits that are 6-1 in the conference right now.
(01-21-2020 01:50 PM)Sandy Wrote: Congratulations to Coach Burke, his assistants, and his players for their game plans and execution last week. An amazing turn around. Hoping for their continued success.
Just to keep things in perspective concerning Coach Shaver, I'm copying part of a "NJ Alum" post from the W&M board that summarizes Coach Shaver's results.
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Over the last five years, W&M owns 96 overall victories, including 54 in CAA play. Both totals are tops in the CAA. The Tribe notched three-straight 20-win seasons in 2013-14, 2014-15 and 2015-16, marking just the second streak of three years in program history. The Green and Gold captured the CAA regular season Championship in 2015. Twice, Shaver led the program to berths in the National Invitation Tournament (NIT), only the second and third post season bids in program history.
Thanks. It's been posted on another thread. Nice guy, but nope.
In his 32 years as a collegiate head coach, he ranks among the active leaders in victories in college basketball. Over his career, Shaver-coached teams have won 20 or more games during 16 seasons and advanced to the post season on 13 occasions. Shaver enters 2018-19 ranked 18th among active Division I head coaches with 570 career victories. He became the 86th Division I head coach to win 500 games in 2014. His career win total ranks 63rd all-time among head coach with at least 10 years of Division I experience.
Under Shaver, the Tribe has peaked at the right time of year during the conference tournament. Prior to his arrival in 2004, W&M had just two CAA Tournament wins in 18 years as a member of the league. During Shaver’s 15 seasons, the Tribe owns 14 CAA Tournament victories and the program’s first four championship game appearances. In fact, since 2008, W&M leads all CAA programs with 13 league tournament victories. The Tribe has earned a spot in the CAA Semifinals each of the last five years, a first in W&M history.
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Whether or not Coach Shaver is a fit at UNCW, the man is a class act and an accomplished professional.
It's his recruits that are 6-1 in the conference right now.
Never speculated on whether Shaka would consider coming here. Only that if by some miracle he came available to us, you hire him without a 2nd thought, and overpay him however possible.
(This post was last modified: 01-21-2020 04:55 PM by Seahawk Nation 08.)
Some good discussion on the UNCW job opening by Brian Mull and John Smist.
Brian Mull's 3 candidates mentioned
Mike Jones- Radford
Jeremy Ballard- FIU
Nathan Davis- Bucknell
Good interview. Most interesting statement was when he said that the worst thing that a mid-major can look for during a coaching search is stability.
In the context that he meant it, he's right. You can't hire a candidate over a more qualified candidate just because you think there's a better chance he would stay for 10-15 years.
Some good discussion on the UNCW job opening by Brian Mull and John Smist.
Brian Mull's 3 candidates mentioned
Mike Jones- Radford
Jeremy Ballard- FIU
Nathan Davis- Bucknell
Good interview. Most interesting statement was when he said that the worst thing that a mid-major can look for during a coaching search is stability.
In the context that he meant it, he's right. You can't hire a candidate over a more qualified candidate just because you think there's a better chance he would stay for 10-15 years.
Just watched, agree it's about Context. Not that it doesn't matter, but you cannot rule people out because you don't think they will be there 10 years.
Some good discussion on the UNCW job opening by Brian Mull and John Smist.
Brian Mull's 3 candidates mentioned
Mike Jones- Radford
Jeremy Ballard- FIU
Nathan Davis- Bucknell
Good interview. Most interesting statement was when he said that the worst thing that a mid-major can look for during a coaching search is stability.
In the context that he meant it, he's right. You can't hire a candidate over a more qualified candidate just because you think there's a better chance he would stay for 10-15 years.
I get it and agree with him. I thought it was interesting because I wonder if it was a veiled shot at the search that netted McGrath.
Some good discussion on the UNCW job opening by Brian Mull and John Smist.
Brian Mull's 3 candidates mentioned
Mike Jones- Radford
Jeremy Ballard- FIU
Nathan Davis- Bucknell
Good interview. Most interesting statement was when he said that the worst thing that a mid-major can look for during a coaching search is stability.
In the context that he meant it, he's right. You can't hire a candidate over a more qualified candidate just because you think there's a better chance he would stay for 10-15 years.
I get it and agree with him. I thought it was interesting because I wonder if it was a veiled shot at the search that netted McGrath.
Some good discussion on the UNCW job opening by Brian Mull and John Smist.
Brian Mull's 3 candidates mentioned
Mike Jones- Radford
Jeremy Ballard- FIU
Nathan Davis- Bucknell
Good interview. Most interesting statement was when he said that the worst thing that a mid-major can look for during a coaching search is stability.
In the context that he meant it, he's right. You can't hire a candidate over a more qualified candidate just because you think there's a better chance he would stay for 10-15 years.
I get it and agree with him. I thought it was interesting because I wonder if it was a veiled shot at the search that netted McGrath.
I thought the same thing... He was never a fan of the McGrath hire
1. I do very much remember McGrath, when hired was extremely adamant and vocalized that he viewed Wilmington/UNCW as a long-term plan.
2. I may be wrong, but I didn't think McGrath was our first choice and that at least one coach had turned us down and thus we landed at McGrath. In that context, if it was a veiled shot it wouldn't have necessarily been a fair one considering we would have hired someone else. I may be wrong though, just commenting based off of memory.
(01-23-2020 01:17 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote: 2. I may be wrong, but I didn't think McGrath was our first choice and that at least one coach had turned us down and thus we landed at McGrath. In that context, if it was a veiled shot it wouldn't have necessarily been a fair one considering we would have hired someone else. I may be wrong though, just commenting based off of memory.
You're probably right. It probably wasn't even a shot at the McGrath hiring, but it just came to my mind due to McGath being so adamant that UNCW was a "destination" job for him instead of a "stepping stone." I think it was a good topic for them to discuss in regards to this search.
(This post was last modified: 01-23-2020 01:54 PM by Gary Miller.)
