I don't see how C.B. gets back on staff at Carolina. Maybe he joins Miller at WFU if UNCG hires a current assistant.

I don't see these guys going anywhere:

Steve Robinson Assistant Coach
Hubert Davis Assistant Coach
Brad Frederick Assistant Coach
Sean May Director of Operations
Kendall Marshall Director of Recruiting

(02-05-2020 02:32 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I don't see how C.B. gets back on staff at Carolina. Maybe he joins Miller at WFU if UNCG hires a current assistant.

I don't see these guys going anywhere:

Steve Robinson Assistant Coach
Hubert Davis Assistant Coach
Brad Frederick Assistant Coach
Sean May Director of Operations
Kendall Marshall Director of Recruiting

Hasse at Stanford could be an option as well.

(02-05-2020 02:32 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I don't see how C.B. gets back on staff at Carolina. Maybe he joins Miller at WFU if UNCG hires a current assistant.

I don't see these guys going anywhere:

Steve Robinson Assistant Coach
Hubert Davis Assistant Coach
Brad Frederick Assistant Coach
Sean May Director of Operations
Kendall Marshall Director of Recruiting

You under estimate the money at UNC-maybe not on the staff but they can find him a paying job.

(02-05-2020 03:08 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(02-05-2020 02:32 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I don't see how C.B. gets back on staff at Carolina. Maybe he joins Miller at WFU if UNCG hires a current assistant.

I don't see these guys going anywhere:

Steve Robinson Assistant Coach
Hubert Davis Assistant Coach
Brad Frederick Assistant Coach
Sean May Director of Operations
Kendall Marshall Director of Recruiting

You under estimate the money at UNC-maybe not on the staff but they can find him a paying job.

Not to mention, after a dreadful year, maybe they shake things up a bit.

(02-05-2020 03:09 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-05-2020 03:08 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(02-05-2020 02:32 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I don't see how C.B. gets back on staff at Carolina. Maybe he joins Miller at WFU if UNCG hires a current assistant.

I don't see these guys going anywhere:

Steve Robinson Assistant Coach
Hubert Davis Assistant Coach
Brad Frederick Assistant Coach
Sean May Director of Operations
Kendall Marshall Director of Recruiting

You under estimate the money at UNC-maybe not on the staff but they can find him a paying job.

Not to mention, after a dreadful year, maybe they shake things up a bit.

No, for sure Carolina can find a job for him, but not on the coaching staff.

Roy is not firing Davis or Frederick; maybe Robinson retires, but that wouldn't have anything to do with this season. Robinson would be a big loss for Carolina.

Some people have the misconception that CB was even one of Roy’s top guys. He wasn’t. Plain and simple. Was with RoY for 18 years and was never in the top assistant seat. Just saying.


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(02-05-2020 07:31 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Some people have the misconception that CB was even one of Roy’s top guys. He wasn’t. Plain and simple. Was with RoY for 18 years and was never in the top assistant seat. Just saying.


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He's one of three assistants named in 2015. He had a very big role in recruiting. Bricks can probably tell you more. His history as an assistant isn't the question. His short time as a HC is.

(02-05-2020 07:31 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Some people have the misconception that CB was even one of Roy’s top guys. He wasn’t. Plain and simple. Was with RoY for 18 years and was never in the top assistant seat. Just saying.


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Problem with Roy is he is loyal and doesn’t get rid of assistants and/or very few leave. If McGrath can’t find a job, Roy will make him one. He could be the “Special Assistant to the Head Coach” that a couple P5 programs have.

If McGrath ever wants to be a HC again he should steer clear of going back to Roy. McGrath has enough connections and experience for an assistant position under a DIFFERENT HC at decent program.

I have a hard time feeling bad for McGrath with his UNC connections and a small coaching fraternity. He will be fine and is guaranteed to make $300,000 the next two years no matter what position he takes.

https://www.starnewsonline.com/photogall...09962/PH/1

Most of these candidates don't make much sense, but one that hasn't been discussed up here that inrigued me...

Mike Schwartz, associate head coach Tennessee

Impressive background as a defensive minded coach. Ties to Wainwright and Rodney Terry.

https://utsports.com/sports/mens-basketb...wartz/1894

(02-06-2020 10:41 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  https://www.starnewsonline.com/photogall...09962/PH/1

Most of these candidates don't make much sense, but one that hasn't been discussed up here that inrigued me...

Mike Schwartz, associate head coach Tennessee

Impressive background as a defensive minded coach. Ties to Wainwright and Rodney Terry.

https://utsports.com/sports/mens-basketb...wartz/1894

Mark Byington – Yes
Jon Scheyer – No way
Dino Gaudio – Not my first choice, but okay
Seth Greenburg – Mixed feelings; I think it’s unlikely he’s interested either way
Frank Haith – Nope
Mike Schwartz – I don’t know enough to have an opinion other than the risk of not having HC experience
Tim Welsh – No thanks
Tony Shaver – Contingency plan
Wainwright – Can you go home again? But knowing he’s on Haith’s staff makes me reconsider my initial impression about that (remote) possibility.
Billy Donlon – Seems very unlikely
Rodney Terry – Obviously yes, but that isn’t going to happen
Coombs – Head coach, no, but I’m all for bringing him back
Blizzard – “there’s no indication he’d want to coach college basketball, and he has no head coaching experience.”
Justus – No head coach experience
Burke – We’ve discussed enough

(02-06-2020 11:35 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 10:41 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  https://www.starnewsonline.com/photogall...09962/PH/1

Most of these candidates don't make much sense, but one that hasn't been discussed up here that inrigued me...

Mike Schwartz, associate head coach Tennessee

Impressive background as a defensive minded coach. Ties to Wainwright and Rodney Terry.

https://utsports.com/sports/mens-basketb...wartz/1894

Mark Byington – Yes
Jon Scheyer – No way
Dino Gaudio – Not my first choice, but okay
Seth Greenburg – Mixed feelings; I think it’s unlikely he’s interested either way
Frank Haith – Nope
Mike Schwartz – I don’t know enough to have an opinion other than the risk of not having HC experience
Tim Welsh – No thanks
Tony Shaver – Contingency plan
Wainwright – Can you go home again? But knowing he’s on Haith’s staff makes me reconsider my initial impression about that (remote) possibility.
Billy Donlon – Seems very unlikely
Rodney Terry – Obviously yes, but that isn’t going to happen
Coombs – Head coach, no, but I’m all for bringing him back
Blizzard – “there’s no indication he’d want to coach college basketball, and he has no head coaching experience.”
Justus – No head coach experience
Burke – We’ve discussed enough

Curious as to the "No way" next to Scheyer, other than your bias and dislike for Duke.
No HC experience is a concern, but i think he's worth a look. He's about as accomplished of an assistant that has been mentioned.

Disclaimer, if we can get an accomplished HC, Ie. Nathan Davis(not one that has been fired for underwhelming performance, Shaver), i'd go that route all day.

Gaudio is interesting. Being 62 is a negative and I've never really understood what happened at Wake Forest. I'd prefer to stay away

(02-06-2020 11:43 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 11:35 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 10:41 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  https://www.starnewsonline.com/photogall...09962/PH/1

Most of these candidates don't make much sense, but one that hasn't been discussed up here that inrigued me...

Mike Schwartz, associate head coach Tennessee

Impressive background as a defensive minded coach. Ties to Wainwright and Rodney Terry.

https://utsports.com/sports/mens-basketb...wartz/1894

Mark Byington – Yes
Jon Scheyer – No way
Dino Gaudio – Not my first choice, but okay
Seth Greenburg – Mixed feelings; I think it’s unlikely he’s interested either way
Frank Haith – Nope
Mike Schwartz – I don’t know enough to have an opinion other than the risk of not having HC experience
Tim Welsh – No thanks
Tony Shaver – Contingency plan
Wainwright – Can you go home again? But knowing he’s on Haith’s staff makes me reconsider my initial impression about that (remote) possibility.
Billy Donlon – Seems very unlikely
Rodney Terry – Obviously yes, but that isn’t going to happen
Coombs – Head coach, no, but I’m all for bringing him back
Blizzard – “there’s no indication he’d want to coach college basketball, and he has no head coaching experience.”
Justus – No head coach experience
Burke – We’ve discussed enough

Curious as to the "No way" next to Scheyer, other than your bias and dislike for Duke.
No HC experience is a concern, but i think he's worth a look. He's about as accomplished of an assistant that has been mentioned.

Disclaimer, if we can get an accomplished HC, Ie. Nathan Davis(not one that has been fired for underwhelming performance, Shaver), i'd go that route all day.

Scheyer turned down Pitt... Not going to consider us even if we wanted to pursue him. Nathan Davis is my number one candidate as of right now. That's subject to change at anytime lol.

(02-06-2020 11:43 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Curious as to the "No way" next to Scheyer, other than your bias and dislike for Duke.
No HC experience is a concern, but i think he's worth a look. He's about as accomplished of an assistant that has been mentioned.

I'm not familiar with the coaching accomplishments that you speak of.

(02-06-2020 11:51 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 11:43 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Curious as to the "No way" next to Scheyer, other than your bias and dislike for Duke.
No HC experience is a concern, but i think he's worth a look. He's about as accomplished of an assistant that has been mentioned.

I'm not familiar with the coaching accomplishments that you speak of.

Meaning he's been on some good staffs and has about as much experience as many of the other assistants. Considered an up and comer in the coaching circle.

(02-06-2020 11:54 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 11:51 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 11:43 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Curious as to the "No way" next to Scheyer, other than your bias and dislike for Duke.
No HC experience is a concern, but i think he's worth a look. He's about as accomplished of an assistant that has been mentioned.

I'm not familiar with the coaching accomplishments that you speak of.

Meaning he's been on some good staffs and has about as much experience as many of the other assistants. Considered an up and comer in the coaching circle.

Six years on staff at a program that recruits one-and-dones, with a coaching legend that traditionally does very little delegating. Any criticism or doubt you had about someone from the Carolina coaching tree can be applied to Scheyer.

Gaudio was the last coach to have any success at WFU. He didn't have the success of Prosser, but Chris Paul didn't fall in his lap either. I've always felt like he got a raw deal at Wake and that he is a good coach. From that list, he's the only that piqued my interest (of those that we haven't discussed).

(02-06-2020 12:03 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 11:54 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 11:51 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 11:43 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Curious as to the "No way" next to Scheyer, other than your bias and dislike for Duke.
No HC experience is a concern, but i think he's worth a look. He's about as accomplished of an assistant that has been mentioned.

I'm not familiar with the coaching accomplishments that you speak of.

Meaning he's been on some good staffs and has about as much experience as many of the other assistants. Considered an up and comer in the coaching circle.

Six years on staff at a program that recruits one-and-dones, with a coaching legend that traditionally does very little delegating. Any criticism or doubt you had about someone from the Carolina coaching tree can be applied to Scheyer.

Gaudio was the last coach to have any success at WFU. He didn't have the success of Prosser, but Chris Paul didn't fall in his lap either. I've always felt like he got a raw deal at Wake and that he is a good coach. From that list, he's the only that piqued my interest (of those that we haven't discussed).

I'm reluctant on assistants as well, i get it. Just had to call out your Anti Duke, as i've come to expect you calling out my Anti UNC. Although, i do think comparing a CB to a Scheyer is apples to oranges. By all accounts it seems CB was a good assistant, but he was never on the "up and comers radar".

If assistant is the route, I'd want us to steer clear of the "blue blood" programs. I want an assistant that's had to grind. That what makes guys like Schwartz, Siddle, Murray, Caputo, Watkins more intriguing than Scheyer... Other than the shade of blue, what's does Scheyer have on his resume that C.B. didn't 3 years ago.

(02-06-2020 12:22 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  If assistant is the route, I'd want us to steer clear of the "blue blood" programs. I want an assistant that's had to grind. That what makes guys like Schwartz, Siddle, Murray, Caputo, Watkins more intriguing than Scheyer... Other than the shade of blue, what's does Scheyer have on his resume that C.B. didn't 3 years ago.

Exactly. Not sure how hoops is saying CB/Scheyer is apples to oranges. It's literally the same thing. Two blue blood programs that recruit a plethora of All Americas and essentially roll the ball out there. That's absolutely apples to apples.

(02-06-2020 11:43 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Gaudio is interesting. Being 62 is a negative and I've never really understood what happened at Wake Forest. I'd prefer to stay away

Gaudio got the axe for off court issues with a couple of players. He also had teams that lost bad in the NCAA-surely they would love to revisit that deal now. Ron Wellman is the AD and made good football hires but the BB team is now not relevant and was ranked No.1 about 10 years ago. I would argue Wake Forest could be a better job than NCSU. If Gaudio has interest and I doubt it,I think you have to consider him.