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(10-30-2019 08:25 AM)monarx Wrote:  Let the "student" athlete pick. Do they want to make money, or do they want a scholarship? In the rare instance a guy like Zion can make a ton, he can pay his own tuition. For the guy on a partial golf scholarship or the 1 star kid who is a great practice player and keeps the GPA up, they can stay with the current system. But make it one or the other. No need for a kid that is making a ton of money to also get a free ride. That ride is in part because of the time and effort it takes to practice, travel and play with the team. Now they can get paid for that instead. I bet 90% of athletes would pick the current system.

Way more than 90%. We are talking the top 2 players from Duke, Kentucky, and Kansas and maybe the top player from UNC plus a few more scattered blue chips. Nobody else commands that kind of money through their marketability.

Who this hurts much more than the mid majors who aren't in play for these guys anyway are the smaller power conference and non-football schools... mainly the Big East. Teams like Villanova, St. John's, and Seton Hall (and Gonzaga) can't compete in this paradigm with Duke and Kansas, much less massive money football machines like Notre Dame, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State and Alabama. They offer small classes along with historic programs and big named coaching and facilities, elite education, and urban areas close to home for their recruits. Not sure those schools will even be able to compete with Memphis, Houston, U_F and Cincy.

I wonder if this will lead to athletes being allowed to put their "sponsor" logos on their jerseys etc. I can hear Ted now, that was another Kalu Ezikpe "Hi Val Insustries Jacked-up Dunk!" Our uniforms already have underarmour on them. What happens when a Nike buys the rights to a player, but the school has exclusive contracts with someone else? Can Pepsi buy the rights to Xavier Green's likeness and ask him to sew a pepsi patch on his shorts? What a can of worms.

I do think it could trickle down to all of us though. For example, lets say ODU is recruiting a basketball player, and VCU is recruiting the same kid. Perhaps part of the recruiting sell is we let the kid know that SB Ballard is going to contract with him for marketing if he signs with us for a rate of $200k over four years. Unless VCU can match that money, we likely land the guy. This could get gross.

(10-30-2019 08:25 AM)monarx Wrote:  Let the "student" athlete pick. Do they want to make money, or do they want a scholarship? In the rare instance a guy like Zion can make a ton, he can pay his own tuition. For the guy on a partial golf scholarship or the 1 star kid who is a great practice player and keeps the GPA up, they can stay with the current system. But make it one or the other. No need for a kid that is making a ton of money to also get a free ride. That ride is in part because of the time and effort it takes to practice, travel and play with the team. Now they can get paid for that instead. I bet 90% of athletes would pick the current system.

They can already pick. They don't have to go to college. There are other options.

I agree that this probably doesn't affect mid majors too much, other than the elites like VCU and Gonzaga, who will no longer be able to steal a player from a p5 team. The bigger problem is that shoe companies will now legally stack certain teams. Nike will push all of its best players to Duke or Kentucky etc and Wake Forest will never have a shot of getting a top player.

(10-30-2019 09:54 AM)monarx Wrote:  I wonder if this will lead to athletes being allowed to put their "sponsor" logos on their jerseys etc. I can hear Ted now, that was another Kalu Ezikpe "Hi Val Insustries Jacked-up Dunk!" Our uniforms already have underarmour on them. What happens when a Nike buys the rights to a player, but the school has exclusive contracts with someone else? Can Pepsi buy the rights to Xavier Green's likeness and ask him to sew a pepsi patch on his shorts? What a can of worms.

SMH can you name an example of one team sport where the player is wearing a patch of their personal sponsor on a team uniform?

As for the player signed by Nike, they will likely sign with a Nike sponsored program. This is already happening at the blue chip level, with most Nike sponsored AAU players signing with Nike programs. Vice versa with Under Armour and Adidas.

(10-30-2019 10:07 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 09:54 AM)monarx Wrote:  I wonder if this will lead to athletes being allowed to put their "sponsor" logos on their jerseys etc. I can hear Ted now, that was another Kalu Ezikpe "Hi Val Insustries Jacked-up Dunk!" Our uniforms already have underarmour on them. What happens when a Nike buys the rights to a player, but the school has exclusive contracts with someone else? Can Pepsi buy the rights to Xavier Green's likeness and ask him to sew a pepsi patch on his shorts? What a can of worms.

SMH can you name an example of one team sport where the player is wearing a patch of their personal sponsor on a team uniform?

As for the player signed by Nike, they will likely sign with a Nike sponsored program. This is already happening at the blue chip level, with most Nike sponsored AAU players signing with Nike programs. Vice versa with Under Armour and Adidas.

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(10-30-2019 10:07 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 09:54 AM)monarx Wrote:  I wonder if this will lead to athletes being allowed to put their "sponsor" logos on their jerseys etc. I can hear Ted now, that was another Kalu Ezikpe "Hi Val Insustries Jacked-up Dunk!" Our uniforms already have underarmour on them. What happens when a Nike buys the rights to a player, but the school has exclusive contracts with someone else? Can Pepsi buy the rights to Xavier Green's likeness and ask him to sew a pepsi patch on his shorts? What a can of worms.

SMH can you name an example of one team sport where the player is wearing a patch of their personal sponsor on a team uniform?

As for the player signed by Nike, they will likely sign with a Nike sponsored program. This is already happening at the blue chip level, with most Nike sponsored AAU players signing with Nike programs. Vice versa with Under Armour and Adidas.

But you don't think Nike is going to want them to go to their highest profile program so that they will get the most exposure? They aren't just going to go to any Nike program. And yes they have been doing this and we just had a huge corruption trial and NCAA investigation to try to root it out. Now they are just throwing up their hands and sanctioning it? That will undoubtedly make it worse.

The NCAA is for amateur athletes. I recommend that any kid that does not want to be an amateur avoid signing up to be one.

(10-30-2019 10:22 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 10:07 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 09:54 AM)monarx Wrote:  I wonder if this will lead to athletes being allowed to put their "sponsor" logos on their jerseys etc. I can hear Ted now, that was another Kalu Ezikpe "Hi Val Insustries Jacked-up Dunk!" Our uniforms already have underarmour on them. What happens when a Nike buys the rights to a player, but the school has exclusive contracts with someone else? Can Pepsi buy the rights to Xavier Green's likeness and ask him to sew a pepsi patch on his shorts? What a can of worms.

SMH can you name an example of one team sport where the player is wearing a patch of their personal sponsor on a team uniform?

As for the player signed by Nike, they will likely sign with a Nike sponsored program. This is already happening at the blue chip level, with most Nike sponsored AAU players signing with Nike programs. Vice versa with Under Armour and Adidas.

But you don't think Nike is going to want them to go to their highest profile program so that they will get the most exposure? They aren't just going to go to any Nike program. And yes they have been doing this and we just had a huge corruption trial and NCAA investigation to try to root it out. Now they are just throwing up their hands and sanctioning it? That will undoubtedly make it worse.

Yes, nike is going to want their high profile guys to go to their high profile programs. But those are dudes most mids don't have a shot at now. So what really changes for us?

(10-30-2019 10:25 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 10:22 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 10:07 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 09:54 AM)monarx Wrote:  I wonder if this will lead to athletes being allowed to put their "sponsor" logos on their jerseys etc. I can hear Ted now, that was another Kalu Ezikpe "Hi Val Insustries Jacked-up Dunk!" Our uniforms already have underarmour on them. What happens when a Nike buys the rights to a player, but the school has exclusive contracts with someone else? Can Pepsi buy the rights to Xavier Green's likeness and ask him to sew a pepsi patch on his shorts? What a can of worms.

SMH can you name an example of one team sport where the player is wearing a patch of their personal sponsor on a team uniform?

As for the player signed by Nike, they will likely sign with a Nike sponsored program. This is already happening at the blue chip level, with most Nike sponsored AAU players signing with Nike programs. Vice versa with Under Armour and Adidas.

But you don't think Nike is going to want them to go to their highest profile program so that they will get the most exposure? They aren't just going to go to any Nike program. And yes they have been doing this and we just had a huge corruption trial and NCAA investigation to try to root it out. Now they are just throwing up their hands and sanctioning it? That will undoubtedly make it worse.

Yes, nike is going to want their high profile guys to go to their high profile programs. But those are dudes most mids don't have a shot at now. So what really changes for us?

The more I think about it, the more I think it changes for us (I retract my initial reaction). As I said in the previous post, this effectively shuts out teams like Villanova, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Gonzaga, Marquette and Butler for the blue chips. They can't afford to match what the schools raking in 10s of millions every year from P5 football can offer. So now Alabama, LSU, etc become elite and the Big East and Gonzaga drop. Then, the schit flows downhill. So... instead of fighting Hofstra for what's left over, we are fighting Villanova as well. This is the realignment the P5 football conferences needs to ruin basketball (or consolidate the power). They already got most mid-major conferences to destroy themselves by floating the fake "super-conference" idea causing them to react and water themselves down. This will finish off the rest of them that are eating up at large bids and tournament revenue (Big East, AAC, A10, WCC).

(10-30-2019 10:13 AM)AimHigh Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 10:07 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 09:54 AM)monarx Wrote:  I wonder if this will lead to athletes being allowed to put their "sponsor" logos on their jerseys etc. I can hear Ted now, that was another Kalu Ezikpe "Hi Val Insustries Jacked-up Dunk!" Our uniforms already have underarmour on them. What happens when a Nike buys the rights to a player, but the school has exclusive contracts with someone else? Can Pepsi buy the rights to Xavier Green's likeness and ask him to sew a pepsi patch on his shorts? What a can of worms.

SMH can you name an example of one team sport where the player is wearing a patch of their personal sponsor on a team uniform?

As for the player signed by Nike, they will likely sign with a Nike sponsored program. This is already happening at the blue chip level, with most Nike sponsored AAU players signing with Nike programs. Vice versa with Under Armour and Adidas.

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Va Tek's only national championship!

(10-30-2019 10:51 AM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 10:13 AM)AimHigh Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 10:07 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 09:54 AM)monarx Wrote:  I wonder if this will lead to athletes being allowed to put their "sponsor" logos on their jerseys etc. I can hear Ted now, that was another Kalu Ezikpe "Hi Val Insustries Jacked-up Dunk!" Our uniforms already have underarmour on them. What happens when a Nike buys the rights to a player, but the school has exclusive contracts with someone else? Can Pepsi buy the rights to Xavier Green's likeness and ask him to sew a pepsi patch on his shorts? What a can of worms.

SMH can you name an example of one team sport where the player is wearing a patch of their personal sponsor on a team uniform?

As for the player signed by Nike, they will likely sign with a Nike sponsored program. This is already happening at the blue chip level, with most Nike sponsored AAU players signing with Nike programs. Vice versa with Under Armour and Adidas.

Collegiate Bass Fishing

Va Tek's only national championship!

I knew someone would make the connection.

ODU tennis alum Sam Perelman, is on the board of the NCAA SAAC, which issued this statement;

In our conference, could impact WKU.

(10-30-2019 03:23 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  In our conference, could impact WKU.

They can just be more open about how much they're paying players to go there now. LOL

As fans are we doing it all wrong? Should we forget about donating and just rush the field after a game and hand cash to players!

Fake money, apparently

Yeah, I'm sure OBJ always walks around with wads of Monopoly money.