He'll do fine at UT. This kinda reminds me of Chris Chioza's recruitment. He was too short so we laid off of him. Now he's in the NBA. Penny wii get good players. He'll improve every year as a coach. Money was involved with Tony Harris, chances are good that's the case with KC. Who knows ... Who cares.

(08-14-2020 12:50 PM)brentutk Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:40 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  Kennedy picking Tennessee tells me that he doesn't think he is good enough for Memphis.

At Tennessee, he really has no competition. At Memphis, he will have competition.

He better get used to losing at Tennessee.

This is Tennessee's 4th 5 star guard in the last 2 years.

Kentucky keeps getting a bunch of 5 stars under Calipari. YET, they seem to only get one title.

It's NOT about the stars only, but, the coach.

(08-14-2020 12:54 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:40 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  Kennedy picking Tennessee tells me that he doesn't think he is good enough for Memphis.

At Tennessee, he really has no competition. At Memphis, he will have competition.

He better get used to losing at Tennessee.

Nah, it's always been hard for us to get private school Memphis kids to come to Memphis. All of their buddies talk bad about Memphis and usually go to SEC schools. Thank God, Cisse wasn't here long enough for that to happen.

Same at White Station. And the coaches there usually don't help either.

Will Barnes even coach from the sideline? He's in that "at risk" age group.

(08-14-2020 02:29 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:50 PM)brentutk Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:40 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  Kennedy picking Tennessee tells me that he doesn't think he is good enough for Memphis.

At Tennessee, he really has no competition. At Memphis, he will have competition.

He better get used to losing at Tennessee.

This is Tennessee's 4th 5 star guard in the last 2 years.

Kentucky keeps getting a bunch of 5 stars under Calipari. YET, they seem to only get one title.

It's NOT about the stars only, but, the coach.

You can knock Cal...But he has had a ton of success with very young teams. He has had the same success at UK in 10 years as we have had in our entire history.

E8
Final 4
Champion
NIT
National Runner UP
Final 4
2nd round
Sweet 16
Elite 8

Duke entered the arms race for 5*s in 2014 and they have 1 championship and no more final fours.

(08-14-2020 02:29 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:50 PM)brentutk Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:40 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  Kennedy picking Tennessee tells me that he doesn't think he is good enough for Memphis.

At Tennessee, he really has no competition. At Memphis, he will have competition.

He better get used to losing at Tennessee.

This is Tennessee's 4th 5 star guard in the last 2 years.

Kentucky keeps getting a bunch of 5 stars under Calipari. YET, they seem to only get one title.

It's NOT about the stars only, but, the coach.

Barnes was always a good recruiter. He had Kevin Durant at Texas and got blown out in the 2nd round of the NCAA tourney.

Barnes will be Hall Of Fame coach.

(08-14-2020 02:36 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 02:29 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:50 PM)brentutk Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:40 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  Kennedy picking Tennessee tells me that he doesn't think he is good enough for Memphis.

At Tennessee, he really has no competition. At Memphis, he will have competition.

He better get used to losing at Tennessee.

This is Tennessee's 4th 5 star guard in the last 2 years.

Kentucky keeps getting a bunch of 5 stars under Calipari. YET, they seem to only get one title.

It's NOT about the stars only, but, the coach.

You can knock Cal...But he has had a ton of success with very young teams. He has had the same success at UK in 10 years as we have had in our entire history.

E8
Final 4
Champion
NIT
National Runner UP
Final 4
2nd round
Sweet 16
Elite 8

Duke entered the arms race for 5*s in 2014 and they have 1 championship and no more final fours.

And, you just proved my point with Duke, also.

Coach Penny will start having success, no doubt. But, how many college HC's can say, they played in the NBA and is a legend and played against MJ?! Well, beside Coach Penny.....

(08-14-2020 12:40 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  Kennedy picking Tennessee tells me that he doesn't think he is good enough for Memphis.

At Tennessee, he really has no competition. At Memphis, he will have competition.

He better get used to losing at Tennessee.

We have a 5-11 guard for the next two years, no drama.

(08-14-2020 03:12 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:40 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  Kennedy picking Tennessee tells me that he doesn't think he is good enough for Memphis.

At Tennessee, he really has no competition. At Memphis, he will have competition.

He better get used to losing at Tennessee.

We have a 5-11 guard for the next two years, no drama.

Coming off the bench. Hardaway likes tall point guards, I don't have any idea why. Short point guards can be very successful, but basketball is easier...taller.

(08-14-2020 02:57 PM)blue68 Wrote:  Barnes will be Hall Of Fame coach.

Dale Brown made it in so I guess Barnes could as well since winning a championship isn't a requirement.

(08-14-2020 03:09 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 02:36 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 02:29 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:50 PM)brentutk Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:40 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  Kennedy picking Tennessee tells me that he doesn't think he is good enough for Memphis.

At Tennessee, he really has no competition. At Memphis, he will have competition.

He better get used to losing at Tennessee.

This is Tennessee's 4th 5 star guard in the last 2 years.

Kentucky keeps getting a bunch of 5 stars under Calipari. YET, they seem to only get one title.

It's NOT about the stars only, but, the coach.

You can knock Cal...But he has had a ton of success with very young teams. He has had the same success at UK in 10 years as we have had in our entire history.

E8
Final 4
Champion
NIT
National Runner UP
Final 4
2nd round
Sweet 16
Elite 8

Duke entered the arms race for 5*s in 2014 and they have 1 championship and no more final fours.

And, you just proved my point with Duke, also.

Coach Penny will start having success, no doubt. But, how many college HC's can say, they played in the NBA and is a legend and played against MJ?! Well, beside Coach Penny.....

You said it is the coach...

I would say that Coach K is one of the greats. The point is it is hard to win with 5* freshmen...Barnes will not be trying to do that.

WHO ?

(08-14-2020 02:57 PM)blue68 Wrote:  Barnes will be Hall Of Fame coach.

Barnes won at Clemson. That is a really tough thing to do.

(08-14-2020 12:54 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:40 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  Kennedy picking Tennessee tells me that he doesn't think he is good enough for Memphis.

At Tennessee, he really has no competition. At Memphis, he will have competition.

He better get used to losing at Tennessee.

Nah, it's always been hard for us to get private school Memphis kids to come to Memphis. All of their buddies talk bad about Memphis and usually go to SEC schools. Thank God, Cisse wasn't here long enough for that to happen.

To echo your point, what percentage of Briarcrest grads (I know that Kennedy won't graduate from Briarcrest) go to UofM? So, why would we expect the basketball players to be any different?

(08-14-2020 02:29 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:50 PM)brentutk Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:40 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  Kennedy picking Tennessee tells me that he doesn't think he is good enough for Memphis.

At Tennessee, he really has no competition. At Memphis, he will have competition.

He better get used to losing at Tennessee.

This is Tennessee's 4th 5 star guard in the last 2 years.

Kentucky keeps getting a bunch of 5 stars under Calipari. YET, they seem to only get one title.

It's NOT about the stars only, but, the coach.

You can justify it all you like, but your statement was still stupid and ill-informed. I hate UT as well, but your statement is simply not true.

I bet this keeps the series going now !!! We need to beat them in Nashville this year and hopefully play them in Memphis next year. After all, Kennedy will want to play in front of his home fans ...

(08-14-2020 03:09 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 02:36 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 02:29 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:50 PM)brentutk Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 12:40 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  Kennedy picking Tennessee tells me that he doesn't think he is good enough for Memphis.

At Tennessee, he really has no competition. At Memphis, he will have competition.

He better get used to losing at Tennessee.

This is Tennessee's 4th 5 star guard in the last 2 years.

Kentucky keeps getting a bunch of 5 stars under Calipari. YET, they seem to only get one title.

It's NOT about the stars only, but, the coach.

You can knock Cal...But he has had a ton of success with very young teams. He has had the same success at UK in 10 years as we have had in our entire history.

E8
Final 4
Champion
NIT
National Runner UP
Final 4
2nd round
Sweet 16
Elite 8

Duke entered the arms race for 5*s in 2014 and they have 1 championship and no more final fours.

And, you just proved my point with Duke, also.

Coach Penny will start having success, no doubt. But, how many college HC's can say, they played in the NBA and is a legend and played against MJ?! Well, beside Coach Penny.....

Frankly, I would rather Penny emulate Villanova and Jay Wright more than Kentucky or Duke. Villanova recruits top 35-100 kids and develops them and wins in the Big East and then the tournament.

Nobody saw the 'D'-League coming. To waste time and energy on high level kids who are money conscious is a lesson learned. It changes the perspective of recruiting in college basketball.

Cal had a Memphis team who should've been champions and their common denominators were length, development and athleticism. How many 5 stars were on that team? Having one or two 5 stars included in a mixture of experienced players with the aforementioned attributes is a winning combination. I think Coach Penny is seeking out these types players who are one step better by being position-less.

(08-15-2020 03:13 PM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  Nobody saw the 'D'-League coming. To waste time and energy on high level kids who are money conscious is a lesson learned. It changes the perspective of recruiting in college basketball.

Cal had a Memphis team who should've been champions and their common denominators were length, development and athleticism. How many 5 stars were on that team? Having one or two 5 stars included in a mixture of experienced players with the aforementioned attributes is a winning combination. I think Coach Penny is seeking out these types players who are one step better by being position-less.

just one

he was also the top pick in the NBA draft, NBA ROY and and MVP at age 22