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Opposite of satire. How about ending buy games and going to 10 regular season games. All ten conference champions and six at large teams in a national football championship tournament.

The two teams in the championship game would then have played 15 games, just as LSU and Clemson are this year. Only difference: football would finally have it first true national champion.
01-10-2020 05:50 PM
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RE: A modest proposal
Many smaller schools use buy games to fund their programs.

How about taking all TV money from all conferences pool it and split it between all the schools.
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Left turn guy is correct. The smaller teams will not vote for that. Heck, even Cincy took a million to go to UT for a buy game a few years back.
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RE: A modest proposal
It would make the regular season meaningless. Not really, but that's the argument against it from the pundits.

Personally, I would favor going back to no playoff, which would make ALL the bowls meaningful again.
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16 teams would be great, and go back to 11 games. Only two teams would have to play the longest season, obviously. The season began for most teams on September 5. It ends January 13th, and I'm not counting about All-Star games. That's 131 days of football season. So glad we are concerned about dragging out the season, for the sake of the student athlete. In a situation where all the conf. champions went, people would actually care about the Sun Belt. That being said, the "P5" could actually schedule decent games from across the country, as they would have seeding impacts for the champs and the 6 at large teams. A loss to USC or Miami wouldn't be so bad, compared to big wins on the SEC network over Western Carolina and The Citadel.
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(01-10-2020 06:15 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It would make the regular season meaningless. Not really, but that's the argument against it from the pundits.

Personally, I would favor going back to no playoff, which would make ALL the bowls meaningful again.

I do not understand this line of thinking. What made the Cotton Bowl more important 10 years ago than this year? In neither case was a team playing for a potential national championship. Everything is the exact same for all teams except for two additional teams now have a shot at the championship. But for every other school the bowl they play in is no less or more important than before the playoffs were implemented.
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It's over.

Big conferences added games over the decades to avoid a playoff and especially an extended playoff. They've always been ahead of the rest of college football in maintaining dominance, but it's gotten much worse in the last 20 years.

They are not gonna change, because they got most of the g5 fans still watching and supporting ncaa football as is. The power conferences are making the big money, getting almost all top recruits and winning championships, and they openly admit g5 schools have no shot at a championship or the big money. Good coaches are leaving g5 programs to have a chance at a championship. But hey, one lucky g5 school gets to play in a ny6 bowl. Most of our fans seem ok with it. They might ***** about it, but they will continue to watch power conference football on tv. Most of our fans have "favorites" in the power conferences that they watch and support.

Power conference fans are not as obsessed with watching us or any other g5 program.

It's over unless the tv ratings and overall support drops significantly. I doubt it happens. Too many just enjoy watching whatever espn/fox/abc wants us to watch.
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I think they added games to make TV contracts richer

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(01-10-2020 08:56 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(01-10-2020 06:15 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It would make the regular season meaningless. Not really, but that's the argument against it from the pundits.

Personally, I would favor going back to no playoff, which would make ALL the bowls meaningful again.

I do not understand this line of thinking. What made the Cotton Bowl more important 10 years ago than this year? In neither case was a team playing for a potential national championship. Everything is the exact same for all teams except for two additional teams now have a shot at the championship. But for every other school the bowl they play in is no less or more important than before the playoffs were implemented.

The reason the Cotton Bowl was more important 10 years ago than now is, 10 years ago, not every waking moment on football commentary and coverage (even in game broadcasts) was concentrated on the playoff race. Now, every game during the regular season, and even the bowl games, has turned into a 4 hour commercial for the playoffs. It's a huge insult, and a constant reminder while you are watching your game that if you are not in the top 6 of the CFP, YOU DON'T MATTER...
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RE: A modest proposal
(01-11-2020 11:59 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(01-10-2020 08:56 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(01-10-2020 06:15 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It would make the regular season meaningless. Not really, but that's the argument against it from the pundits.

Personally, I would favor going back to no playoff, which would make ALL the bowls meaningful again.

I do not understand this line of thinking. What made the Cotton Bowl more important 10 years ago than this year? In neither case was a team playing for a potential national championship. Everything is the exact same for all teams except for two additional teams now have a shot at the championship. But for every other school the bowl they play in is no less or more important than before the playoffs were implemented.

The reason the Cotton Bowl was more important 10 years ago than now is, 10 years ago, not every waking moment on football commentary and coverage (even in game broadcasts) was concentrated on the playoff race. Now, every game during the regular season, and even the bowl games, has turned into a 4 hour commercial for the playoffs. It's a huge insult, and a constant reminder while you are watching your game that if you are not in the top 6 of the CFP, YOU DON'T MATTER...

I still do not understand how that is any different. That’s your perception but the the championship game always reviews far more coverage and was talked about during every other bowl game back then as well. My point is that the cotton Bowl carries no more or less weight or significance than it did back then.
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RE: A modest proposal
(01-11-2020 11:59 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(01-10-2020 08:56 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(01-10-2020 06:15 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It would make the regular season meaningless. Not really, but that's the argument against it from the pundits.

Personally, I would favor going back to no playoff, which would make ALL the bowls meaningful again.

I do not understand this line of thinking. What made the Cotton Bowl more important 10 years ago than this year? In neither case was a team playing for a potential national championship. Everything is the exact same for all teams except for two additional teams now have a shot at the championship. But for every other school the bowl they play in is no less or more important than before the playoffs were implemented.

The reason the Cotton Bowl was more important 10 years ago than now is, 10 years ago, not every waking moment on football commentary and coverage (even in game broadcasts) was concentrated on the playoff race. Now, every game during the regular season, and even the bowl games, has turned into a 4 hour commercial for the playoffs. It's a huge insult, and a constant reminder while you are watching your game that if you are not in the top 6 of the CFP, YOU DON'T MATTER...

Prior to the CFP it was the BcS, prior to that it was the top bowl matchup. Had ESPN, college football for that matter, been the cash draw it is now, it would've been just as bad as it is now. They would just pick the one or two bowl games that mattered the most and hype the hell out of them. Just imagine if you are a bowl game played after the Sugar Bowl (if that was the bowl determining the champ), you wouldn't get any mentions at all. It would be a regular season game, at best.
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RE: A modest proposal
I found and old, but interesting article about the buy games. It has a lot of info for that season. It looks like it's not just the little guys that benefit.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...608668001/

Quote:At the much higher end of the scale, Michigan and Florida are each scheduled to get $6 million for participating in Saturday’s Advocare Classic at the Dallas Cowboys’ AT&T Stadium. Alabama and Florida State are each scheduled to get $5 million for playing Saturday night in the first college football game at Atlanta’s Mercedes-Benz Stadium, the second of two opening-weekend games being staged there by organizers of the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl.
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(01-12-2020 12:52 AM)Alanda Wrote:  I found and old, but interesting article about the buy games. It has a lot of info for that season. It looks like it's not just the little guys that benefit.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...608668001/

Quote:At the much higher end of the scale, Michigan and Florida are each scheduled to get $6 million for participating in Saturday’s Advocare Classic at the Dallas Cowboys’ AT&T Stadium. Alabama and Florida State are each scheduled to get $5 million for playing Saturday night in the first college football game at Atlanta’s Mercedes-Benz Stadium, the second of two opening-weekend games being staged there by organizers of the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl.

I don't think you understand the difference between a buy game and a game organized by ESPN.
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(01-12-2020 06:41 PM)MvETigers Wrote:  
(01-12-2020 12:52 AM)Alanda Wrote:  I found and old, but interesting article about the buy games. It has a lot of info for that season. It looks like it's not just the little guys that benefit.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...608668001/

Quote:At the much higher end of the scale, Michigan and Florida are each scheduled to get $6 million for participating in Saturday’s Advocare Classic at the Dallas Cowboys’ AT&T Stadium. Alabama and Florida State are each scheduled to get $5 million for playing Saturday night in the first college football game at Atlanta’s Mercedes-Benz Stadium, the second of two opening-weekend games being staged there by organizers of the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl.

I don't think you understand the difference between a buy game and a game organized by ESPN.

I didn't call that a buy game. I should have been clearer about them benefiting from early regular season games like the little guys.
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