(01-07-2020 11:27 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:19 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:13 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:07 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Perhaps, but an attack on a Trump themed facility will be viewed by many as an attack on Trump... the person who authorized the hit on an Iranian general. I think world reaction would be very different than the attack on the WTC.

Meaning the liberals in this country, the Dems in Congress, and the MSM.

Innocent lives be damned right as long as it hurts Trump?

There will be a retaliation... there was always going to be a retaliation. I certainly do not hope for innocent lives to be lost, but stop it with the righteous condemnation. One minute y’all call for paving the Middle East, which most assuredly kills hundreds of thousands of innocent lives; yet then bemoan hypothetically taken innocent lives taken at Trump properties in Dubai or Turkey.

First off, I haven't called for turning that sh*thole into a lake or making it glass so back off that statement.

I realize there'll be retaliation, but for you to say that Trump has to sit on his hands if it's one of his properties because it's personal is horseshit and pretty stupid on your part.

Well, several have and I can’t tell y’all apart nor care to take the time to scroll through the responses to find out.

That being said, if the Iranians target Trumps business interests then it complicates his response... particularly if he keeps the information which motivated the assassination classified. The retaliation will be viewed as an attack on Trump... which is just another reason for the American public to have demanded he divest himself from his business interests.

Ridiculous. Doesn't matter what they attack or who owns it if it is on American soil. You do realize if that happens then Americans that do not have the surname Trump will be affected right. Your hatred for one man and his family has made you weak.

(01-07-2020 11:27 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:19 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:13 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:07 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Perhaps, but an attack on a Trump themed facility will be viewed by many as an attack on Trump... the person who authorized the hit on an Iranian general. I think world reaction would be very different than the attack on the WTC.

Meaning the liberals in this country, the Dems in Congress, and the MSM.

Innocent lives be damned right as long as it hurts Trump?

There will be a retaliation... there was always going to be a retaliation. I certainly do not hope for innocent lives to be lost, but stop it with the righteous condemnation. One minute y’all call for paving the Middle East, which most assuredly kills hundreds of thousands of innocent lives; yet then bemoan hypothetically taken innocent lives taken at Trump properties in Dubai or Turkey.

First off, I haven't called for turning that sh*thole into a lake or making it glass so back off that statement.

I realize there'll be retaliation, but for you to say that Trump has to sit on his hands if it's one of his properties because it's personal is horseshit and pretty stupid on your part.

Well, several have and I can’t tell y’all apart nor care to take the time to scroll through the responses to find out.

That being said, if the Iranians target Trumps business interests then it complicates his response... particularly if he keeps the information which motivated the assassination classified. The retaliation will be viewed as an attack on Trump... which is just another reason for the American public to have demanded he divest himself from his business interests.

Well first off, I'd much rather be confused with any of them than you, at least they can have a conversation rather than rattle off stupidity.

If the Iranians do hit a Trump property, it doesn't complicate anything. The loss of innocent lives vs 2 scum bag terrorist is not equal and the response from the US and our allies (even though you scumbag libs don't believe it, we have allies) will bring hellfire to the goatfuckers. You, your ilk, and the MSM will see it as an attack on Trump while those of use who breath through our noses instead of our mouths like you will see it as another terrorist attack. You are the useful idiot they love.

I'll say it yet a third time. If you want to side with Iran, get ya sh*t and move over there.

(01-07-2020 11:27 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  That being said, if the Iranians target Trumps business interests then it complicates his response... particularly if he keeps the information which motivated the assassination classified. The retaliation will be viewed as an attack on Trump... which is just another reason for the American public to have demanded he divest himself from his business interests.

See? You're already starting the spin.

It's only complicated because you choose to make it so because it suits your political agenda.

I'd certainly much rather they be attacking a Trump owned (and insured I'm sure) Hotel in UAE than a US Military Base or Embassy.

But maybe that's just me. Don't fool yourself that if he had put his investments into a blind trust as every other President has that the name on the building would change. That's ignorant.... and NO President has been required to 'divest' himself of a family business.

(01-07-2020 11:39 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 10:56 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 08:27 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Yahoo Finance

Looks like Trump owned or branded properties could very well be the target of Iranian retaliation. If the Trump property in Dubai is hit, how does the US respond?

Same way the Brits responded to an attack on the WTC.

Trump wouldn't be hurt.... US interests weren't targeted, but our ally was.

Perhaps, but an attack on a Trump themed facility will be viewed by many as an attack on Trump... the person who authorized the hit on an Iranian general. I think world reaction would be very different than the attack on the WTC.

If it is, that only demonstrates the ignorance of those people. Dubai would be the place that suffers and Trump would be made whole.... hell, he'll even get to be front and center for the rebuilding 'bigger and better'.

I'll admit though that it is a liberal's wet dream... If Trump responds, they'll say it's because it was a Trump property. If he doesn't, they'll say it's because he doesn't care about 'brown' people. I'll honestly be surprised if some of you don't start claiming that he WANTED the response for the press and insurance money.

That's why I said out response should be the same as the Brits response to 9/11. If UAE doesn't care that Iran violated their sovereign space to carry out an attack that damaged their economy and killed their people, then we shouldn't either. I'm betting they will, so we should. Very simple.

Trump typically does not own these facilities but leases his name and possibly assists with design and management. My guess is the threat of retaliation will force the money behind many of his projects to second guess the ongoing value of the Trump name. Who wants to stay or rent in a building that might get bombed?

(01-07-2020 11:56 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:39 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 10:56 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 08:27 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Yahoo Finance

Looks like Trump owned or branded properties could very well be the target of Iranian retaliation. If the Trump property in Dubai is hit, how does the US respond?

Same way the Brits responded to an attack on the WTC.

Trump wouldn't be hurt.... US interests weren't targeted, but our ally was.

Perhaps, but an attack on a Trump themed facility will be viewed by many as an attack on Trump... the person who authorized the hit on an Iranian general. I think world reaction would be very different than the attack on the WTC.

If it is, that only demonstrates the ignorance of those people. Dubai would be the place that suffers and Trump would be made whole.... hell, he'll even get to be front and center for the rebuilding 'bigger and better'.

I'll admit though that it is a liberal's wet dream... If Trump responds, they'll say it's because it was a Trump property. If he doesn't, they'll say it's because he doesn't care about 'brown' people. I'll honestly be surprised if some of you don't start claiming that he WANTED the response for the press and insurance money.

That's why I said out response should be the same as the Brits response to 9/11. If UAE doesn't care that Iran violated their sovereign space to carry out an attack that damaged their economy and killed their people, then we shouldn't either. I'm betting they will, so we should. Very simple.

Trump typically does not own these facilities but leases his name and possibly assists with design and management. My guess is the threat of retaliation will force the money behind many of his projects to second guess the ongoing value of the Trump name. Who wants to stay or rent in a building that might get bombed?

That's not what you've been saying. You've been saying he would take it personal. Which is it?

(01-07-2020 11:56 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:39 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 10:56 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 08:27 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Yahoo Finance

Looks like Trump owned or branded properties could very well be the target of Iranian retaliation. If the Trump property in Dubai is hit, how does the US respond?

Same way the Brits responded to an attack on the WTC.

Trump wouldn't be hurt.... US interests weren't targeted, but our ally was.

Perhaps, but an attack on a Trump themed facility will be viewed by many as an attack on Trump... the person who authorized the hit on an Iranian general. I think world reaction would be very different than the attack on the WTC.

If it is, that only demonstrates the ignorance of those people. Dubai would be the place that suffers and Trump would be made whole.... hell, he'll even get to be front and center for the rebuilding 'bigger and better'.

I'll admit though that it is a liberal's wet dream... If Trump responds, they'll say it's because it was a Trump property. If he doesn't, they'll say it's because he doesn't care about 'brown' people. I'll honestly be surprised if some of you don't start claiming that he WANTED the response for the press and insurance money.

That's why I said out response should be the same as the Brits response to 9/11. If UAE doesn't care that Iran violated their sovereign space to carry out an attack that damaged their economy and killed their people, then we shouldn't either. I'm betting they will, so we should. Very simple.

Trump typically does not own these facilities but leases his name and possibly assists with design and management. My guess is the threat of retaliation will force the money behind many of his projects to second guess the ongoing value of the Trump name. Who wants to stay or rent in a building that might get bombed?

You forgot to add "what I hope happens".............

(01-07-2020 10:25 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 10:17 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 10:14 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 10:04 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 09:58 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Where is the Pentagon? Have the Joint Chiefs held a press briefings detailing the strike and its necessity? It was, after all, a military strike and not a CIA hit.

Pentagon rejects Trump’s pledge
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/07/pentagon...sites.html

Joint Chief’s left out of the loop
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/05/pen...ni-strike/

Quote:Some defense officials say Esper’s decision to keep the decision to strike closely held was understandable. “The people who needed to be in the room were in the room,” said a second defense official. “The voices that needed to be heard from were heard from.”

Who were they because military leadership is not standing beside the civilians... at least now yet.

You glassed over this tidbit huh:

Senior officials at the Office of the Secretary of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff would ordinarily be part of the discussion, or at least briefed ahead of time, on such a momentous decision—one that the administrations of both Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama considered and rejected.

It's not unheard of and your hero did it as well.

But let's continue to clutch pearls.

Taking out a member of a terrorist organization like Al-Qaeda might not need joint chief consideration. Taking out an Iranian general -- strike that -- terrorist which would most assuredly put this county on the brink of war might need military buy in.

(01-07-2020 11:57 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:56 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:39 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 10:56 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Same way the Brits responded to an attack on the WTC.

Trump wouldn't be hurt.... US interests weren't targeted, but our ally was.

Perhaps, but an attack on a Trump themed facility will be viewed by many as an attack on Trump... the person who authorized the hit on an Iranian general. I think world reaction would be very different than the attack on the WTC.

If it is, that only demonstrates the ignorance of those people. Dubai would be the place that suffers and Trump would be made whole.... hell, he'll even get to be front and center for the rebuilding 'bigger and better'.

I'll admit though that it is a liberal's wet dream... If Trump responds, they'll say it's because it was a Trump property. If he doesn't, they'll say it's because he doesn't care about 'brown' people. I'll honestly be surprised if some of you don't start claiming that he WANTED the response for the press and insurance money.

That's why I said out response should be the same as the Brits response to 9/11. If UAE doesn't care that Iran violated their sovereign space to carry out an attack that damaged their economy and killed their people, then we shouldn't either. I'm betting they will, so we should. Very simple.

Trump typically does not own these facilities but leases his name and possibly assists with design and management. My guess is the threat of retaliation will force the money behind many of his projects to second guess the ongoing value of the Trump name. Who wants to stay or rent in a building that might get bombed?

That's not what you've been saying. You've been saying he would take it personal. Which is it?

I don’t know how he would take it, but an American military response to an attack on his personal business interests would be convoluted and messy. An attack on US Military personnel or on American civilians would galvanize Americans but an attack on Trump... maybe not.

If you find yourself twisting like a pretzel, you might be a mental midget.

(01-07-2020 12:28 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If you find yourself twisting like a pretzel, you might be a mental midget.

They can't help themselves when logic is introduced into the debate.

(01-07-2020 12:21 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:57 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:56 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:39 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Perhaps, but an attack on a Trump themed facility will be viewed by many as an attack on Trump... the person who authorized the hit on an Iranian general. I think world reaction would be very different than the attack on the WTC.

If it is, that only demonstrates the ignorance of those people. Dubai would be the place that suffers and Trump would be made whole.... hell, he'll even get to be front and center for the rebuilding 'bigger and better'.

I'll admit though that it is a liberal's wet dream... If Trump responds, they'll say it's because it was a Trump property. If he doesn't, they'll say it's because he doesn't care about 'brown' people. I'll honestly be surprised if some of you don't start claiming that he WANTED the response for the press and insurance money.

That's why I said out response should be the same as the Brits response to 9/11. If UAE doesn't care that Iran violated their sovereign space to carry out an attack that damaged their economy and killed their people, then we shouldn't either. I'm betting they will, so we should. Very simple.

Trump typically does not own these facilities but leases his name and possibly assists with design and management. My guess is the threat of retaliation will force the money behind many of his projects to second guess the ongoing value of the Trump name. Who wants to stay or rent in a building that might get bombed?

That's not what you've been saying. You've been saying he would take it personal. Which is it?

I don’t know how he would take it, but an American military response to an attack on his personal business interests would be convoluted and messy. An attack on US Military personnel or on American civilians would galvanize Americans but an attack on Trump... maybe not.

So let's take the entire "Trump Hotel" out of it. If it was any hotel/building and American lives were lost, how should he react? Oh wait, they attacked our F*CKING embassy. Or did you forget about that? Were you one of the ones cheering for "Trump's Benghazi"?

That's your answer as to how he should react if it's hotel or not. There's no second thinking this.

Let's remember the man taken out, was banned from traveling outside of Iran. He was listed as a terrorist along with his little group of 20k thugs by several countries.

And what nation puts a bounty on another leader's head?

Again, if you agree with the MSM and Iran, pack ya sh*t and go. You won't be reimbursed mileage there either.

They can attack trump properties all they want. As long as they don't hit the US, my give a damn is broke.

It’s nice to know what liberals are truly hoping for. Good to know.

It must be exhausting quietly pining away for awful things to happen.

(01-07-2020 01:23 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  They can attack trump properties all they want. As long as they don't hit the US, my give a damn is broke.

Yea f*ck innocent lives right CB?

Spin, Spin, Spin Densa

First it's why he should have divested himself...
Now he doesn't own them...

It's why he's going to retaliate
Now it has little to do with him.


It was a military strike... a solution (getting rid of Trump) STILL in search of a problem.

Seriously, I'm getting dizzy from the spinning you're doing.

Truth be known, I don't look for much of anything to happen besides chest puffing from Iran. I could be wrong. They're doing sable rattling, but the only people worried about it are the left.

(01-07-2020 01:38 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 01:23 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  They can attack trump properties all they want. As long as they don't hit the US, my give a damn is broke.

Yea f*ck innocent lives right CB?

Obviously if you work for Trump in any capacity...........you deserve to die.

In the long history of the spin room there's been an awful lot of stupid ass thread topics, but this one has to rank in the top five stupidest of all time.


But even stupid threads have value, and the value of this one is the fact that the leftist trash posting in this thread exposed the fact that they are breathlessly awaiting a terrorist attack on a Trump property because "ORANGE MAN BAD!"