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(02-06-2020 02:50 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 01:15 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I guess we're going to have to start covering ODU sports ourselves. Anyone want to crowd source the writing for a blog?

I'll have to recuse myself from VCU games but otherwise ...

Now we're getting somewhere!
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Yeah, that has its limitations.
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Apparently Thursday was Ed's last day.

No word on what happens to ODU coverage the rest of the season. Nice of the basketball team to give him the going-away present of enough bricks to build a casino.

EDIT TO ADD: Harry wrote a really nice piece on the impact that Ed's reporting had at ODU. Lots of quotes from Selig, JJ, Wilder. He doesn't know what happens to ODU coverage going forward either.
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I'm somewhat annoyed that my online subscription for the Pilot renewed yesterday. Probably cancelling at the end of the month.
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Considering going to weekends only. No ODU coverage, no point in subscribing.
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David Teel is leaving the Daily Press. Yikes.
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Geez....it's a massacre.
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(02-06-2020 01:15 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I guess we're going to have to start covering ODU sports ourselves. Anyone want to crowd source the writing for a blog?

I think THIS is the blog. Just in a 2003 internet vibe forum.
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This is the only place I get consistent news regarding ODU. Harry is ok, but he only writes about how great everything and everyone is. It does stink now knowing that we have no newspaper covering our school.
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Whose to say that don't put the food writer on our beat ....
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Now we have to listen to Cattles on the afternoon radio to get any mention of ODU news and interviews? 03-banghead 03-banghead 03-banghead 03-banghead 03-banghead 03-banghead 03-banghead
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(02-07-2020 08:21 AM)VB Monarch Wrote:  Considering going to weekends only. No ODU coverage, no point in subscribing.

I have the digital and Sunday only. It's worked well so far, especially since most articles are on digital days before they hit print. Whatever they decide to do with the ODU beat will have a big impact if I continue my subscription.
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(02-07-2020 09:19 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  David Teel is leaving the Daily Press. Yikes.

So no columnist, no local colleges beat writer, no UVA writer. To my outsider eyes, the call would be to move Norm Wood to the ODU beat and let Associated Press handle UVA/VT coverage, because they'll produce a lot more of that than they will ODU, which they would only cover if they were in the top 25. I don't know if it's workable to cut a deal with whoever owns the T-D and their papers to use their ACC coverage, but that would be an option as well. Not having a columnist isn't ideal (do they still have Molinaro freelance his Weekly Briefing column?) but nothing about this is ideal.

The sad part is that going to the website to get a roster of the sports section, I was besieged by banner ads exhorting me to "support local journalism" by subscribing. Problem is, by continuing to cut into the muscle of the newsroom, they give readers less reason to support them, thus prompting them to go back to the buyout/layoff well, which results in fewer readers, which ... well, you can see where this is going.
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We should nominate a local poster who can get a press pass through ODU who will ask coaches the questions that are fielded from here. I nominate ODUCoach, because I am powerful and this will totally definitely work.
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(02-07-2020 01:48 PM)odu09 Wrote:  We should nominate a local poster who can get a press pass through ODU who will ask coaches the questions that are fielded from here. I nominate ODUCoach, because I am powerful and this will totally definitely work.

Molinaro can ask Razor's questions
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Im surprised so many people actually listen to Cattles or read the pilot for ODU information to be honest. Occasionally I will read a Ed Miller article (and enjoy them), but there are so many other avenues for ODU sports information that I don't think we are even losing much with the Pilot.
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(02-07-2020 01:48 PM)odu09 Wrote:  We should nominate a local poster who can get a press pass through ODU who will ask coaches the questions that are fielded from here. I nominate ODUCoach, because I am powerful and this will totally definitely work.

Correct, we will have to take this over as fans. Should have done this a long time ago. I nominate Monarchblue because he will ask tough questions and isn't afraid to be critical, but seems to have a cool head. Or maybe Bluebyu
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The thing is they're not going to give anyone a press pass just because they want to ask questions. It's probably easier to get credentialed now than it was 10 or 20 years ago when there were more media outlets, but you still have to represent a newsgathering organization that has an audience. And no, this board isn't audience enough.

If you're serious about this, my best suggestion would be to latch on to an existing publication, but there aren't many options.

Southside Daily might be the most promising. It covers the region and has good corporate support, but to date they have no sports presence. Someone would have to sell them on the potential for expanded readership and ad sales based on adding ODU sports coverage. It's not out of the question but it would require a really good business case.

The Suffolk News-Herald is the other daily newspaper in the region, but they don't leave Suffolk, so they most likely wouldn't be interested. The rest of the existing pubs are too hyperlocal or too niche to even consider it (the African-American newspaper New Journal & Guide covered ODU basketball in the 90s but I don't think they've done sports in a long time).

You could start a sports blog, but unless you already have a relationship with the athletic department, you're probably not going to get credentialed until you prove your site's worth over months and perhaps years. They're not going to be in a hurry to give a press pass to a blog that has 50 views a day. There's a site that covers state women's basketball, Lady Swish, that's run by two former Pilot reporters, but I don't know if they get credentialed, and they're more established.

If you're serious about doing an ODU sports site, the best way to win the AD's interest and sow the seeds for football/basketball coverage is starting with the Olympic sports. Cover the stuff that only the Mace and Crown will pay attention to: field hockey, soccer, women's lacrosse, that sort of thing. Limit the football/basketball coverage to features on players and short writeups of the game from press releases to establish your interest. Don't do much commentary/analysis until you've proven your credibility; if this is just Joe ODU's Hot Ass Takes, you won't get far. Once you've established yourself as a legitimate news source, they'll be a lot more likely to get you on press row.

The other thing you have to consider is that you have to ask questions like a reporter and not a fan, and DEFINITELY not a frustrated fan. I presume most of you wouldn't go full message board in the post-game presser, but there's a decorum there and they won't hesitate to pull your credential and blacklist you and your site/publication if you lose your crap demanding to know why Green hasn't been benched or why JJ can't get consistent shooters into the program. You get more latitude if you're from an established publication, but you won't be and you'll have a very short leach accordingly.

I've never started my own publication (I know people who have; spoiler alert: they're all dead [the sites, not the people]), but I have reasonable sports journalism experience. I don't live down there and wouldn't probably have the time to do too much even if I did, but I can provide guidance and assistance if there's powder to be lit.
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The best thing ODU can do is be proactive and either ask Harry to go fulltime sports or bring Ed on board. But here's the thing, it has to be made clear to the writer and the public that this just be happy stuff. Credibility off at stake
I believe UVA did this several years ago with Jeff White and told him to cover the teams like the reporter he was in Richmond.

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Just can't be happy stuff, I meant to write

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