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4 year average attendance by conference

SEC 74,881
Big 10 65,213
Big 12 57,068
ACC 48,417
Pac 12 48,025
AAC 29,407
MWC 23,895
CUSA 19,324
SB 18,012
MAC 15,485
IND. 38,497

4 year median attendance by conference

SEC 81,084

Big 10 57,134
Big 12 55,216

ACC 47,065
Pac 12 46,783

AAC 31,927

MWC 22,684
CUSA 19,607

SB 16,711
MAC 16,372

IND. 31,565

Biggest % gaps in median:
Pac 12 to AAC 46.5%
SEC to Big 10 41.9%
AAC to MWC 40.7%
Big 12 to ACC 17.3%
CUSA to SB 17.3%
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RE: attendance by conference
Top 20 schools 4 year average:
Michigan 111,063 Big10
Ohio State 105,026 Big10
Penn State 104,532 Big10
Alabama 101,556 SEC
LSU 100,350 SEC
Texas A&M 99,256 SEC
Texas 96,170 Big12
Tennessee 94,399 SEC
Georgia 92,764 SEC
Nebraska 89,595 Big10
Auburn 85,903 SEC
Oklahoma 85,842 Big12
Florida 85,393 SEC
Clemson 80,753 ACC
Notre Dame 78,082 Ind
Wisconsin 77,952 Big10
South Carolina 76,774 SEC
Michigan State 71,889 Big10
Washington 67,679 Pac12
Florida State 67,513 ACC

Bottom 20 schools (Note Idaho was 11,566 their last 4 years in FBS, better than 3 schools on this list)
Texas State 16,456 SB
Buffalo 16,410 MAC
Miami, OH 16,400 MAC
Eastern Michigan 16,343 MAC
Georgia State 16,184 SB
Florida Atlantic 15,920 CUSA
Western Kentucky 15,708 CUSA
MTSU 15,673 CUSA
Bowling Green 15,340 MAC
Florida International 15,159 CUSA
New Mexico State 14,849 IND
San Jose State 14,819 MWC
Central Michigan 14,329 MAC
Louisiana-Monroe 13,569 SB
Coastal Carolina 13,538 SB
UNC Charlotte 12,531 CUSA
Kent State 12,506 MAC
Massachusetts 11,275 IND
Northern Illinois 10,308 MAC
Ball State 9,475 MAC
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Interesting stats. I always enjoy seeing this type info.
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Didn’t realize Michigan St was that high.
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RE: attendance by conference
(01-04-2020 10:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  4 year average attendance by conference

SEC 74,881
Big 10 65,213
Big 12 57,068
ACC 48,417
Pac 12 48,025
AAC 29,407
MWC 23,895
CUSA 19,324
SB 18,012
MAC 15,485
IND. 38,497

4 year median attendance by conference

SEC 81,084

Big 10 57,134
Big 12 55,216

ACC 47,065
Pac 12 46,783

AAC 31,927

MWC 22,684
CUSA 19,607

SB 16,711
MAC 16,372

IND. 31,565

Biggest % gaps in median:
Pac 12 to AAC 46.5%
SEC to Big 10 41.9%
AAC to MWC 40.7%
Big 12 to ACC 17.3%
CUSA to SB 17.3%

I am assuming that these are for 2015, 2016, 2017, & 2018 since 2019 has not been released yet.
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The three Big Ten kings lead in attendance.
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(01-05-2020 12:42 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The three Big Ten kings lead in attention.

True! And the rest of the Big 10 drags them way down. No doubt that Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State are as solid as they come. And a few of the others help to hold their average high enough to be solidly in 2nd place. And then the bottom drags them way down.

Thankfully in the SEC there is only 1 cellar dweller and that's Vanderbilt an institution that Northwestern consistently beats in attendance. The salvation of the SEC are the number of schools consistently in that top 25 and the fact that there is only 1 (Vanderbilt 72nd) below the 30th position. The stunning part to me is that the ACC with its many private schools outdraws the PAC 12 with all of its population and state schools.
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(01-05-2020 12:48 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-05-2020 12:42 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The three Big Ten kings lead in attention.

True! And the rest of the Big 10 drags them way down. No doubt that Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State are as solid as they come. And a few of the others help to hold their average high enough to be solidly in 2nd place. And then the bottom drags them way down.

Thankfully in the SEC there is only 1 cellar dweller and that's Vanderbilt an institution that Northwestern consistently beats in attendance. The salvation of the SEC are the number of schools consistently in that top 25 and the fact that there is only 1 (Vanderbilt 72nd) below the 30th position. The stunning part to me is that the ACC with its many private schools outdraws the PAC 12 with all of its population and state schools.

The bottom dwellers such as Rutgers, Maryland, Illinois, Northwestern (although good some years) serve their purpose.
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(01-05-2020 12:48 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-05-2020 12:42 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The three Big Ten kings lead in attention.

True! And the rest of the Big 10 drags them way down. No doubt that Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State are as solid as they come. And a few of the others help to hold their average high enough to be solidly in 2nd place. And then the bottom drags them way down.

Thankfully in the SEC there is only 1 cellar dweller and that's Vanderbilt an institution that Northwestern consistently beats in attendance. The salvation of the SEC are the number of schools consistently in that top 25 and the fact that there is only 1 (Vanderbilt 72nd) below the 30th position. The stunning part to me is that the ACC with its many private schools outdraws the PAC 12 with all of its population and state schools.

The defunct web site, MR SEC, spent an entire realignment article explaining why Vanderbilt did not "fit" the SEC by any metric they used to describe a typical SEC school.
I guess Vandy hangs around for the money or just to stick in the craw of the folks who don't think they belong.
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(01-05-2020 12:48 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-05-2020 12:42 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The three Big Ten kings lead in attention.

True! And the rest of the Big 10 drags them way down. No doubt that Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State are as solid as they come. And a few of the others help to hold their average high enough to be solidly in 2nd place. And then the bottom drags them way down.

Thankfully in the SEC there is only 1 cellar dweller and that's Vanderbilt an institution that Northwestern consistently beats in attendance. The salvation of the SEC are the number of schools consistently in that top 25 and the fact that there is only 1 (Vanderbilt 72nd) below the 30th position. The stunning part to me is that the ACC with its many private schools outdraws the PAC 12 with all of its population and state schools.

College football just isn’t a draw on the West Coast. Take the Cali public schools for example, the way the Cali tier and localization system is set up, most Cali HS kids have zero chance of getting into Berkeley or UCLA even if they’ve got great grades and they know it. They don’t grow up as fans and they don’t have anyone in their family who attended either school to help grow that fandom.
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As long as schools only give announced attendance, the data from these comparisons will be a little questionable.
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(01-05-2020 12:48 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-05-2020 12:42 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The three Big Ten kings lead in attention.

True! And the rest of the Big 10 drags them way down. No doubt that Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State are as solid as they come. And a few of the others help to hold their average high enough to be solidly in 2nd place. And then the bottom drags them way down.

Thankfully in the SEC there is only 1 cellar dweller and that's Vanderbilt an institution that Northwestern consistently beats in attendance. The salvation of the SEC are the number of schools consistently in that top 25 and the fact that there is only 1 (Vanderbilt 72nd) below the 30th position. The stunning part to me is that the ACC with its many private schools outdraws the PAC 12 with all of its population and state schools.


JRsec, as to the Pac-12 attendance, I would think the fact that many schools in that league have huge Asian and other foreign student enrollments and graduates (with those folks generally preferring soccer and basketball over American football) might be a factor. Perhaps I'm wrong.
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(01-04-2020 11:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-04-2020 10:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  4 year average attendance by conference

SEC 74,881
Big 10 65,213
Big 12 57,068
ACC 48,417
Pac 12 48,025
AAC 29,407
MWC 23,895
CUSA 19,324
SB 18,012
MAC 15,485
IND. 38,497

4 year median attendance by conference

SEC 81,084

Big 10 57,134
Big 12 55,216

ACC 47,065
Pac 12 46,783

AAC 31,927

MWC 22,684
CUSA 19,607

SB 16,711
MAC 16,372

IND. 31,565

Biggest % gaps in median:
Pac 12 to AAC 46.5%
SEC to Big 10 41.9%
AAC to MWC 40.7%
Big 12 to ACC 17.3%
CUSA to SB 17.3%

I am assuming that these are for 2015, 2016, 2017, & 2018 since 2019 has not been released yet.

2019 is out. Its for 2016-19.
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(01-05-2020 12:48 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-05-2020 12:42 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The three Big Ten kings lead in attention.

True! And the rest of the Big 10 drags them way down. No doubt that Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State are as solid as they come. And a few of the others help to hold their average high enough to be solidly in 2nd place. And then the bottom drags them way down.

Thankfully in the SEC there is only 1 cellar dweller and that's Vanderbilt an institution that Northwestern consistently beats in attendance. The salvation of the SEC are the number of schools consistently in that top 25 and the fact that there is only 1 (Vanderbilt 72nd) below the 30th position. The stunning part to me is that the ACC with its many private schools outdraws the PAC 12 with all of its population and state schools.

Its interesting that the SEC's median is higher than the average. The Big 10 has the biggest drop from average to median. The rest of the conferences are pretty close between median and average.
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Interesting but an apples to oranges comparison.

If every conference got to eliminate their bottom two to four programs the way the big 12 does the numbers would be more truth reflective.

A perfect example of being able to manipulate statistics in any way in order to support any narrative.

Looks like something the Big 12 TexasJeremy posts on the big 12 boards.
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(01-05-2020 11:02 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Interesting but an apples to oranges comparison.

If every conference got to eliminate their bottom two to four programs the way the big 12 does the numbers would be more truth reflective.

A perfect example of being able to manipulate statistics in any way in order to support any narrative.

Looks like something the Big 12 TexasJeremy posts on the big 12 boards.

Except .... Colorado, Nebraska, TAMU, and Missouri were definitely not the "bottom two to four programs" in the Big 12, and that's who they lost.
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Big 12 Fans Narrative: Our schools make more money than your schools do...

Anyone with a brain that apparently doesn’t believe big 12 propaganda:

If you have a pie and cut it into 10 pieces versus cutting the same pie into 12 or 14 pieces,
the 10 pieces are going to always be bigger.
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(01-05-2020 11:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-05-2020 11:02 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Interesting but an apples to oranges comparison.

If every conference got to eliminate their bottom two to four programs the way the big 12 does the numbers would be more truth reflective.

A perfect example of being able to manipulate statistics in any way in order to support any narrative.

Looks like something the Big 12 TexasJeremy posts on the big 12 boards.

Except .... Colorado, Nebraska, TAMU, and Missouri were definitely not the "bottom two to four programs" in the Big 12, and that's who they lost.

Wrong...
If the big 12 added 4 teams from the MWC or AAC what’s the chances they would be in the bottom half in attendance in the conference? At least until they got their stadiums expanded. Has nothing to do with who left.
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(01-05-2020 11:24 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(01-05-2020 11:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-05-2020 11:02 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Interesting but an apples to oranges comparison.

If every conference got to eliminate their bottom two to four programs the way the big 12 does the numbers would be more truth reflective.

A perfect example of being able to manipulate statistics in any way in order to support any narrative.

Looks like something the Big 12 TexasJeremy posts on the big 12 boards.

Except .... Colorado, Nebraska, TAMU, and Missouri were definitely not the "bottom two to four programs" in the Big 12, and that's who they lost.

Wrong...
If the big 12 added 4 teams from the MWC or AAC what’s the chances they would be in the bottom half in attendance in the conference? At least until they got their stadiums expanded. Has nothing to do with who left.

What conference has added 2 to 4 teams from the MWC or AAC?
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(01-05-2020 11:21 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Big 12 Fans Narrative: Our schools make more money than your schools do...

Anyone with a brain that apparently doesn’t believe big 12 propaganda:

If you have a pie and cut it into 10 pieces versus cutting the same pie into 12 or 14 pieces,
the 10 pieces are going to always be bigger.

Obviously not a business major.

Most revenue is internally generated. And the Big 12 makes more as shown by the average attendance. As for the TV piece, the Big 12 is selling less inventory, so its not like dividing a fixed amount fewer ways.
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