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RE: Game Thread: Bearcats at Green Wave
(01-07-2020 05:09 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  
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(01-04-2020 05:20 PM)jarr Wrote:  Probelem Brannen continues to have is putting the ball in the hands of the wrong guys over and over. Why is Diarra playing ISO ball at the top of the key. Just wasting possessions over and over.

I never understood how that happens. Bearcatman said that last game. Mcneil was leading us in the field got attemps I think in the first half. People should know their roles. Roles need to be defined.

Against Tulane McNeil only shot 2 times; one was a three point miss on a late pass to him. Sometimes I think our supposedly better three point shooters are hesitating at times too much. McNeil shooting certainly is disappointing but thought he played well defensively and rebounding (5) against Tulane.

To add onto this, McNeal had the 2nd lowest usage rate of anyone on the team against Tulane. Hell, Diara had a higher usage rate than he did. The fact that McNeal saw so many minutes was directly driven by MAW getting 2 early fouls and he was the only other option at PG other than Jarron. I think we've seen that under normal circumstances his impact on these games are so minimal that they don't really make that much of a difference on the overall outcome of the game.
 
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(01-07-2020 04:13 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Pretty insightful from Brannen. I agree they are executing pretty well on offense, but need to hit a few jumpers.

Defensively he talked about a few issues they are having with positioning, some habits still from going from predominantly zone to predominantly man.

He also said they played pretty well against Tulane and then said something about these are not the droids you're looking for.
 
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(01-04-2020 11:04 PM)dsquare Wrote:  I'm not sure it matters a heck of a lot. You have to have some mid and long range game in order to keep teams honest. We're sadly lacking in that area when it comes to road games. It's hard to fathom how you can have a 5th year 4 playing against an undersized team, and he gets nothing inside the 3 point line in 30 minutes. Nor does he get to the ft line.

(01-07-2020 04:13 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

Pretty insightful from Brannen. I agree they are executing pretty well on offense, but need to hit a few jumpers.

Defensively he talked about a few issues they are having with positioning, some habits still from going from predominantly zone to predominantly man.
Coach said they played pretty well overall. I can’t say I agree with that. But I agreed with some of his other assessments including the seniors played well in the first half.
 
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(01-07-2020 07:11 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 05:09 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 12:12 AM)ZCat Wrote:  
(01-04-2020 05:20 PM)jarr Wrote:  Probelem Brannen continues to have is putting the ball in the hands of the wrong guys over and over. Why is Diarra playing ISO ball at the top of the key. Just wasting possessions over and over.

I never understood how that happens. Bearcatman said that last game. Mcneil was leading us in the field got attemps I think in the first half. People should know their roles. Roles need to be defined.

Against Tulane McNeil only shot 2 times; one was a three point miss on a late pass to him. Sometimes I think our supposedly better three point shooters are hesitating at times too much. McNeil shooting certainly is disappointing but thought he played well defensively and rebounding (5) against Tulane.

To add onto this, McNeal had the 2nd lowest usage rate of anyone on the team against Tulane. Hell, Diara had a higher usage rate than he did. The fact that McNeal saw so many minutes was directly driven by MAW getting 2 early fouls and he was the only other option at PG other than Jarron. I think we've seen that under normal circumstances his impact on these games are so minimal that they don't really make that much of a difference on the overall outcome of the game.

We know what mcneal is and its bad. Really bad. If we are going to lose, might as well give all his minutes to Harvey who will also not help us win but maybe it will prepare him for next year
 
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RE: Game Thread: Bearcats at Green Wave
(01-08-2020 07:41 AM)coachpipe Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 07:11 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 05:09 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 12:12 AM)ZCat Wrote:  
(01-04-2020 05:20 PM)jarr Wrote:  Probelem Brannen continues to have is putting the ball in the hands of the wrong guys over and over. Why is Diarra playing ISO ball at the top of the key. Just wasting possessions over and over.

I never understood how that happens. Bearcatman said that last game. Mcneil was leading us in the field got attemps I think in the first half. People should know their roles. Roles need to be defined.

Against Tulane McNeil only shot 2 times; one was a three point miss on a late pass to him. Sometimes I think our supposedly better three point shooters are hesitating at times too much. McNeil shooting certainly is disappointing but thought he played well defensively and rebounding (5) against Tulane.

To add onto this, McNeal had the 2nd lowest usage rate of anyone on the team against Tulane. Hell, Diara had a higher usage rate than he did. The fact that McNeal saw so many minutes was directly driven by MAW getting 2 early fouls and he was the only other option at PG other than Jarron. I think we've seen that under normal circumstances his impact on these games are so minimal that they don't really make that much of a difference on the overall outcome of the game.

We know what mcneal is and its bad. Really bad. If we are going to lose, might as well give all his minutes to Harvey who will also not help us win but maybe it will prepare him for next year

Interesting idea. I'm guessing Harvey doesn't have the ball handling skills to run the point if MAW is on the bench with fouls or fatigue. Given Harvey's high recruiting profile I think we're all eager to see what role (if any) he can begin to carve out on this year's team.
 
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Harvey is not playing PG.
 
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(01-08-2020 08:58 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Harvey is not playing PG.

Yeah...that's a no-win proposition. Literally nothing I've seen from the kid makes me think he can be a primary ball handler. It's McNeal or bust if MAW can't stay on the court.
 
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(01-08-2020 08:58 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Harvey is not playing PG.

and mcneal isnt a D1 basketball player....
 
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Sure he is. I think he’s been on rosters for 5 of them. Lol. We are starting to see why.

People were excited about him after the exhibition game when he was playing against those high school kids.

Harvey is as much or a PG as Williams is. Unless the light pops on soon I will not be surprised if he is in the portal by mid March.
 
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(01-08-2020 09:05 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Sure he is. I think he’s been on rosters for 5 of them. Lol. We are starting to see why.

People were excited about him after the exhibition game when he was playing against those high school kids.

Harvey is as much or a PG as Williams is. Unless the light pops on soon I will not be surprised if he is in the portal by mid March.

FWIW, in the pre-season introduction videos, Harvey introduced himself as "Zach Harvey, Point guard" lol
 
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(01-08-2020 07:41 AM)coachpipe Wrote:  We know what mcneal is and its bad. Really bad. If we are going to lose, might as well give all his minutes to Harvey who will also not help us win but maybe it will prepare him for next year

As others stated, the problem is Harvey doesn't play point guard. I know everyone is infatuated with getting the top-50 prospect more playing time but he's got two seniors and a junior ahead of him. It's a logjam at the 2/3 and unfortunately Harvey's on the wrong side of it. He'll get tons of playing time next year, however.
 
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(01-06-2020 04:54 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bearcats shooting 52.5% from 2 on the year (72/353) while shooting a high number of 2s compared to 3s and getting to the line (21st best FT Rate in the country). Those things tell you the Bearcats get a lot of baskets around the rim.

The free throw thing by itself has been a huge issue in quite a few of the losses which has nothing to do with running offense, chemistry et. al. Although we've been very good at getting to the line as you point out, our 67% is 3 points below last year, but in the Osu, BG, X and Colgate losses we were below the 67% which really impacted the results of those games. It's been better lately, so hopefully those really bad sub average games become few and far between the rest of the year. Our offense is creating opportunities for free points, but we have to take advantage of it. We're almost encouraging teams to foul us, particularly early on. We lost both the BG and Colgate games in that fashion. Odd year.
 
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So does this game get voided now that the best player on the court was charged with murder?
 
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(04-26-2020 04:29 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  So does this game get voided now that the best player on the court was charged with murder?
Wow Tulane dismissed a player who declared for the NBA and is charged with murder. Very aggressive.


Tulane junior guard Teshaun Hightower was arrested and charged with murder Saturday in connection with a homicide in Stockbridge, Georgia, that took place earlier in April.

Hightower is being held in the Henry County Jail without bail, according to ESPN's Mark Schlabach. His charges include felony murder, aggravated assault, possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony, and battery. His court appearance was scheduled for Sunday morning. No bond amount was listed, according to Della Hasselle and Amie Just of The New Orleans Advocate.

The victim in the case is 24-year-old Devante Anthony Long. The incident occurred at an apartment complex the morning of April 8, when police responded to a call that a person had been shot. Long later died at a hospital.

In a Facebook post on Friday, the Henry County Police Department named five others as being involved in the homicide: Jeffrey Hightower, Kelvonie Burney, Tyreek Farmer, Tobias Gresham and Antonie Gresham.

Tulane dismissed Hightower from the team on Sunday, per CBS Sports' Jon Rothstein.

Hightower spent his first two seasons at Georgia before transferring to Tulane prior to this season. A native of Lithonia, Georgia, he played in 30 games for Tulane in 2019-20, averaging team-high 15.9 points per game. He had declared for the NBA draft on April 18, 10 days after Long was killed.
 
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it gets even better. tnx for reminding me this thread existed
 
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Tulane dropping the mic for the 2020 Fulmer Cup.
 
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(04-27-2020 08:02 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Tulane dropping the mic for the 2020 Fulmer Cup.

I heard you and mark were looking to work on a case together, eh counselor?
 
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Thankfully, the only things I know about criminal law, I learned in my misguided youth on the mean streets of Hyde Park.
 
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(04-27-2020 08:31 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Thankfully, the only things I know about criminal law, I learned in my misguided youth on the mean streets of Hyde Park.

You probably got really scary from time to time and ventured into Oakley.
 
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Oh, the railroad tracks to Oakley and points beyond....best path to that arcade in Hyde Park Plaza that was the grate where all the bad marbles gathered...
 
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