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(01-04-2020 10:29 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  First Bearcat game was in 1956, been following a long time....Top five all time game of mine was Riverfront Coliseum in Feb 1977, UC vs. Eventual champion Marquette. UC with Miller, Cummings, Collier, etc. and UM with Jerome Whitehead, Bo Ellis and Butch Lee. UC won by one point a believe but Marquette beat them handily in the NCAA tourney. Fantastic game with super players.....

The 76-77 team had a talented starting five, even though their top scorer Cummings missed the entire year. Freshman Eddie Lee was the sixth man and they didn’t go much deeper. Lee was incredibly poised for a freshman, always staying within himself and his role, giving the starters some limited relief. Having beaten eventual champion Marquette during the regular season without Cummings, I think it’s fair to say they could have won it all that year with him.

(01-04-2020 01:05 PM)cmhcat Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 10:29 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  First Bearcat game was in 1956, been following a long time....Top five all time game of mine was Riverfront Coliseum in Feb 1977, UC vs. Eventual champion Marquette. UC with Miller, Cummings, Collier, etc. and UM with Jerome Whitehead, Bo Ellis and Butch Lee. UC won by one point a believe but Marquette beat them handily in the NCAA tourney. Fantastic game with super players.....

The 76-77 team had a talented starting five, even though their top scorer Cummings missed the entire year. Freshman Eddie Lee was the sixth man and they didn’t go much deeper. Lee was incredibly poised for a freshman, always staying within himself and his role, giving the starters some limited relief. Having beaten eventual champion Marquette during the regular season without Cummings, I think it’s fair to say they could have won it all that year with him.

Definitely agree it was a shame Cummings and Yoder didn't play together their senior seasons.

(01-04-2020 01:05 PM)cmhcat Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 10:29 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  First Bearcat game was in 1956, been following a long time....Top five all time game of mine was Riverfront Coliseum in Feb 1977, UC vs. Eventual champion Marquette. UC with Miller, Cummings, Collier, etc. and UM with Jerome Whitehead, Bo Ellis and Butch Lee. UC won by one point a believe but Marquette beat them handily in the NCAA tourney. Fantastic game with super players.....

The 76-77 team had a talented starting five, even though their top scorer Cummings missed the entire year. Freshman Eddie Lee was the sixth man and they didn’t go much deeper. Lee was incredibly poised for a freshman, always staying within himself and his role, giving the starters some limited relief. Having beaten eventual champion Marquette during the regular season without Cummings, I think it’s fair to say they could have won it all that year with him.

Great recap of a trip down memory lane; I remember well the pride in beating Marquette, before they were crowned national champs a few short weeks later.

That clip from the Notre Dame NCAA game, my sophomore year @ UC, remains on my top ten most disappointing moments as a sports fan. Incredible talent on that UC team and advancing that day might well have meant another Final Four. Going back a little further, didn't one of Oscar's teams get eliminated in a game where there was a quick count on the free throw line where the official negated his attempted or made shot in the NCAA Tourney? If so, those two incidents, combined with Kenyon's pre-tourney injury and the Nevada meltdown have significantly impacted UC's tourney fortunes in my lifetime.

Looking at Pat Cummings production, thst guy was an absolute monster and had a solid NBA career into the 90's. If anyone is deserving of having their number retired, he should be toward the top of the list along with Ron Bonham, Paul Hogue, and George Wilson. Before people start talking about the fresher faces like Gary Clark, Steve Logan and Sean Kilpatrick.

(01-04-2020 01:48 PM)jarr Wrote:  Looking at Pat Cummings production, thst guy was an absolute monster and had a solid NBA career into the 90's. If anyone is deserving of having their number retired, he should be toward the top of the list along with Ron Bonham, Paul Hogue, and George Wilson. Before people start talking about the fresher faces like Gary Clark, Steve Logan and Sean Kilpatrick.

Well said; retiring numbers is tricky business and always subject to a recency effect. Cummings was an incredible college scorer and enjoyed a long career in the NBA.

I know Cummings is deceased but it would be great to recognize some of those other players from the 70's sometime; maybe a 70's throwback game with those uni's and a halftime ceremony? I always liked the home jerseys with "The 'Cats" in script and the road version with "Cincinnati" in the same typeface. Surely Under Armour would like to sell yet another variation on throwback jerseys.

(01-04-2020 01:44 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 01:05 PM)cmhcat Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 10:29 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  First Bearcat game was in 1956, been following a long time....Top five all time game of mine was Riverfront Coliseum in Feb 1977, UC vs. Eventual champion Marquette. UC with Miller, Cummings, Collier, etc. and UM with Jerome Whitehead, Bo Ellis and Butch Lee. UC won by one point a believe but Marquette beat them handily in the NCAA tourney. Fantastic game with super players.....

The 76-77 team had a talented starting five, even though their top scorer Cummings missed the entire year. Freshman Eddie Lee was the sixth man and they didn’t go much deeper. Lee was incredibly poised for a freshman, always staying within himself and his role, giving the starters some limited relief. Having beaten eventual champion Marquette during the regular season without Cummings, I think it’s fair to say they could have won it all that year with him.

Great recap of a trip down memory lane; I remember well the pride in beating Marquette, before they were crowned national champs a few short weeks later.

That clip from the Notre Dame NCAA game, my sophomore year @ UC, remains on my top ten most disappointing moments as a sports fan. Incredible talent on that UC team and advancing that day might well have meant another Final Four. Going back a little further, didn't one of Oscar's teams get eliminated in a game where there was a quick count on the free throw line where the official negated his attempted or made shot in the NCAA Tourney? If so, those two incidents, combined with Kenyon's pre-tourney injury and the Nevada meltdown have significantly impacted UC's tourney fortunes in my lifetime.

Yes, the free throw incident occurred in the Kansas State game in 58. The 66 team was eliminated on a questionable call against eventual champion Texas (Glory Road) Western in OT. No mention in the movie, of course.

A couple of us were tweeting this morning how so many of our legends from the 60s and 70s do not get there deserved recognition. We have people that like consider themselves big fan of UC hoops who can not name some of these guys. It’s a real shame. I have always felt UC should have a physical HOF where fans could learn first hand about guys like Cummings, Thacker, Houge, George Wilson, Jim Ard, Bob Miller, Lloyd Batts etc. I thought they could have done
Something with the arena redo but I guess not.

Another tough loss was the ball we tipped on the prayer shot by West Virginia to beat us.

(01-04-2020 02:25 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  A couple of us were tweeting this morning how so many of our legends from the 60s and 70s do not get there deserved recognition. We have people that like consider themselves big fan of UC hoops who can not name some of these guys. It’s a real shame. I have always felt UC should have a physical HOF where fans could learn first hand about guys like Cummings, Thacker, Houge, George Wilson, Jim Ard, Bob Miller, Lloyd Batts etc. I thought they could have done
Something with the arena redo but I guess not.

Parade Magazine years ago published the top high school ratings kind of like Mcdonalds all star team now. Wilson and Bonham were both on the first team of only five players...guess we can credit Oscar for getting that top recruiting started. Even late sixties and seventies Ard and Batts were like the top players in Illinois (I believe from the same high school); we don't get many of them anymore from Big Ten country.

Lloyd Batts and Derrek Dickey were a great 1-2 punch in the early 70’s

In the 64-65 season, Roland West scored 35 points in the first half against Wake Forest! Jim Ard and Rick Roberson (both NBA players) played front court for Cincy in 66-68. It was odd that no mention of Cincinnati was made in Glory Road...we didn't have JoJo White!

(01-04-2020 02:35 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 02:25 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  A couple of us were tweeting this morning how so many of our legends from the 60s and 70s do not get there deserved recognition. We have people that like consider themselves big fan of UC hoops who can not name some of these guys. It’s a real shame. I have always felt UC should have a physical HOF where fans could learn first hand about guys like Cummings, Thacker, Houge, George Wilson, Jim Ard, Bob Miller, Lloyd Batts etc. I thought they could have done
Something with the arena redo but I guess not.

Parade Magazine years ago published the top high school ratings kind of like Mcdonalds all star team now. Wilson and Bonham were both on the first team of only five players...guess we can credit Oscar for getting that top recruiting started. Even late sixties and seventies Ard and Batts were like the top players in Illinois (I believe from the same high school); we don't get many of them anymore from Big Ten country.

Used to get a bunch of guys from Indy and Illinois. Seems like JB is doing a good job thus far attacking the Midwest- players from Ohio, Indiana and Minnesota. Hopefully this will continue.

(01-04-2020 02:25 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  A couple of us were tweeting this morning how so many of our legends from the 60s and 70s do not get there deserved recognition. We have people that like consider themselves big fan of UC hoops who can not name some of these guys. It’s a real shame. I have always felt UC should have a physical HOF where fans could learn first hand about guys like Cummings, Thacker, Houge, George Wilson, Jim Ard, Bob Miller, Lloyd Batts etc. I thought they could have done
Something with the arena redo but I guess not.

Much to like about the new 5th/3rd--but much opportunity remains to make sure younger fans can see and experience the incredible history of Cincinnati basketball. Let's add this to the wish list to share with our new A.D.

Frankly, the fancy lighted signage for program achievements in the south end of the arena is attractive. But I still miss the physical banners--they're just so much a part of the college basketball tradition and UC has far more to brag about than most other schools.

Used to watch some UC basketball games on Channel 19 in the mid to late 70's. They had some good teams.

(01-04-2020 03:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Used to watch some UC basketball games on Channel 19 in the mid to late 70's. They had some good teams.

I remember one Ed Badger season they used to have both red and black away uniforms.

During a losing streak they tried to get off the schneid by coming out for a road game with black shorts and red jerseys. I thought it was cooler than heck.

You can't think out of the box like that nowdays because you would have to get under armour's blessing on it first.

(01-04-2020 08:17 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 03:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Used to watch some UC basketball games on Channel 19 in the mid to late 70's. They had some good teams.

I remember one Ed Badger season they used to have both red and black away uniforms.

During a losing streak they tried to get off the schneid by coming out for a road game with black shorts and red jerseys. I thought it was cooler than heck.

You can't think out of the box like that nowdays because you would have to get under armour's blessing on it first.

Ah, yes! The Ed Badger days. If people thought that Huggs’ guys had too many run ins with the law, you ain’t seen nothin’ until you go back and look at those days. Badger coached the NBA Bulls before he came to UC and, for the most part, didn’t care what his guys did.

(01-04-2020 08:17 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 03:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Used to watch some UC basketball games on Channel 19 in the mid to late 70's. They had some good teams.

I remember one Ed Badger season they used to have both red and black away uniforms.

During a losing streak they tried to get off the schneid by coming out for a road game with black shorts and red jerseys. I thought it was cooler than heck.

You can't think out of the box like that nowdays because you would have to get under armour's blessing on it first.

My TV was black and white so that would have been difficult for me to remember.

(01-04-2020 09:27 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  Funny schedule if you look it up we beat Georgia Tech and Memphis at Freedom Hall on March 5 and 6 to win the Metro Conference Tourney but then played a regular season game at Dayton on March 9th before the NCAA tournament.....great roster Bob Miller, Pat Cummings, Brian Williams, Mike Artis, Mike Jones, Steve Collier, Gary Yoder, Hal Ward and Gary Kamstra.

What a great team; I loved watching them! Cummings amazed me. Off the court he looked like he could barely walk without tripping. But once on the court he was dominant.

Don't forget, they had a reserve on the bench named Mick Shoemaker.

Also, I know they had a long home winning streak during this time; does anyone know how long it was? I can't remember. I think it was 50 some games and I think Louisville broke it at the Colliseum.

(01-04-2020 08:25 PM)QSECOFR Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 08:17 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 03:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Used to watch some UC basketball games on Channel 19 in the mid to late 70's. They had some good teams.

I remember one Ed Badger season they used to have both red and black away uniforms.

During a losing streak they tried to get off the schneid by coming out for a road game with black shorts and red jerseys. I thought it was cooler than heck.

You can't think out of the box like that nowdays because you would have to get under armour's blessing on it first.

Ah, yes! The Ed Badger days. If people thought that Huggs’ guys had too many run ins with the law, you ain’t seen nothin’ until you go back and look at those days. Badger coached the NBA Bulls before he came to UC and, for the most part, didn’t care what his guys did.

I was just a tot but I recall the coverage. That rolled right into Tony Yates’ time here when Badger left in 83. Calhoun and Short Vine was full of UC player hijinx.

Upside to Badger in the late 70’s was he brought in my favorite UC player as a kid: Jelly Jones.

(01-06-2020 02:03 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 08:25 PM)QSECOFR Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 08:17 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 03:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Used to watch some UC basketball games on Channel 19 in the mid to late 70's. They had some good teams.

I remember one Ed Badger season they used to have both red and black away uniforms.

During a losing streak they tried to get off the schneid by coming out for a road game with black shorts and red jerseys. I thought it was cooler than heck.

You can't think out of the box like that nowdays because you would have to get under armour's blessing on it first.

Ah, yes! The Ed Badger days. If people thought that Huggs’ guys had too many run ins with the law, you ain’t seen nothin’ until you go back and look at those days. Badger coached the NBA Bulls before he came to UC and, for the most part, didn’t care what his guys did.

I was just a tot but I recall the coverage. That rolled right into Tony Yates’ time here when Badger left in 83. Calhoun and Short Vine was full of UC player hijinx.

Upside to Badger in the late 70’s was he brought in my favorite UC player as a kid: Jelly Jones.

My brother and I fought over who could be Jelly Jones and who could be Puffy Kennedy in our driveway battles.