Let's review what he did at Green Bay. On the plus side resurrected a program from their losing way. He did the same for UT.

02-03 season, 10-20, (4-12, 6th place) Horizon
03-04 season, 17-11, (11-5, 3rd)
04-05 season, 17-11, (10-6, 2nd)
05-06 season, 15-16, (8-8, 3rd)
06-07 season, 18-15, (7-9, 4th)
07-08 season, 15-15, 9-9, 7th)
08-09 season, 22-11, 13-5, 2nd)
09-10 season, 22-13, 11-7, 3rd)

137-112, .550 winnings pct. for 8 seasons at Green Bay, with no NCAA appearances.
AT UT, 167-129, .564 winnings pct. for 9 seasons, with no NCAA appearances.

Does this sound familiar ? He is still chasing the dream !

Years ago I perused the UWGB board to get somewhat of a feel for the type of coach/person K was during his tenure there...
Surprisingly a lot of comments were less than positive...
A lot of it was construed as to him being self-serving and always ready to deflect blame on any shortcomings...
Some said that he could get a sore arm for patting himself on the back for so much when the program was on the upswing...
I don’t know, just my 2 cents...
I like K, but aside from that GQ demeanor, and some nice recent success, I really do not think he will ever take UT to the dance...
Calling out certain players after yesterday’s loss probably will not endear him for to have positive chemistry with the team...

(12-29-2019 01:05 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  Years ago I perused the UWGB board to get somewhat of a feel for the type of coach/person K was during his tenure there...
Surprisingly a lot of comments were less than positive...
A lot of it was construed as to him being self-serving and always ready to deflect blame on any shortcomings...
Some said that he could get a sore arm for patting himself on the back for when the program was on the upswing...
I don’t know, just my 2 cents...
I like K, but aside from that GQ demeanor, and some nice recent success, I really do not think he will ever take UT to the dance...
Calling out certain players after yesterday’s loss probably will not endear him for a positive chemistry with the team...

I agree with everything you have said here, which is why I have never warmed to this coach despite his early success.

(12-29-2019 01:32 PM)Dwight Wrote:  

(12-29-2019 01:05 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  Years ago I perused the UWGB board to get somewhat of a feel for the type of coach/person K was during his tenure there...
Surprisingly a lot of comments were less than positive...
A lot of it was construed as to him being self-serving and always ready to deflect blame on any shortcomings...
Some said that he could get a sore arm for patting himself on the back for when the program was on the upswing...
I don’t know, just my 2 cents...
I like K, but aside from that GQ demeanor, and some nice recent success, I really do not think he will ever take UT to the dance...
Calling out certain players after yesterday’s loss probably will not endear him for a positive chemistry with the team...

I agree with everything you have said here, which is why I have never warmed to this coach despite his early success.

After all of his years as a DI head coach, he has proven that he can't get to the NCAA tournament. If you hire him you have to understand that. So if you give him contract extensions then you (O'Brien) must have other criteria for success. Have a press conference announcing that graduation rates, player accountability and preparing players for their future after basketball are the objectives of the program. Winning championships is not the main goal. At least then fans would understand the direction of the and goals of the program.

Mindset of AD O'Brien, UT is a leader in attendance in both Football and BB. Both coaches are being paid very well, one having a MAC title and the another been close, but no cigar.

(12-29-2019 02:18 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(12-29-2019 01:32 PM)Dwight Wrote:  

(12-29-2019 01:05 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  Years ago I perused the UWGB board to get somewhat of a feel for the type of coach/person K was during his tenure there...
Surprisingly a lot of comments were less than positive...
A lot of it was construed as to him being self-serving and always ready to deflect blame on any shortcomings...
Some said that he could get a sore arm for patting himself on the back for when the program was on the upswing...
I don’t know, just my 2 cents...
I like K, but aside from that GQ demeanor, and some nice recent success, I really do not think he will ever take UT to the dance...
Calling out certain players after yesterday’s loss probably will not endear him for a positive chemistry with the team...

I agree with everything you have said here, which is why I have never warmed to this coach despite his early success.

After all of his years as a DI head coach, he has proven that he can't get to the NCAA tournament. If you hire him you have to understand that. So if you give him contract extensions then you (O'Brien) must have other criteria for success. Have a press conference announcing that graduation rates, player accountability and preparing players for their future after basketball are the objectives of the program. Winning championships is not the main goal. At least then fans would understand the direction of the and goals of the program.

I concur. When Coach K was announced I didn't even know he was a candidate. He seemed to beat Akron and Kent when he was with UWGB so I was hopeful he might get us to the NCAA even though he hadn't gotten to the tourney in 8 years as head coach of the Phoenix. He's going on 18 years as head coach and the NCAA doesn't appear to be within our reach.Clearly, championships are not a vital criterion for job security at UT. I accept that because I can't do anything to change it. I'm fine with Coach K but frankly don't care if he stays, is promoted, gets hired away, quits, retires, or gets fired. On the bright side, I don't feel bad leaving early to beat the crowd and I never experience a hoarse voice the next day any more.

(12-29-2019 01:05 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  Years ago I perused the UWGB board to get somewhat of a feel for the type of coach/person K was during his tenure there...
Surprisingly a lot of comments were less than positive...
A lot of it was construed as to him being self-serving and always ready to deflect blame on any shortcomings...
Some said that he could get a sore arm for patting himself on the back for so much when the program was on the upswing...
I don’t know, just my 2 cents...
I like K, but aside from that GQ demeanor, and some nice recent success, I really do not think he will ever take UT to the dance...
Calling out certain players after yesterday’s loss probably will not endear him for to have positive chemistry with the team...

Pretty much the same I heard 2nd hand from someone previously on the staff of Kowalcyzk, who eventually left on his own for reasons that were never disclosed.
Nothing scandalous - but credit goes to him for keeping it quiet and not having a reason to be vindictive.

(12-29-2019 01:05 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  Years ago I perused the UWGB board to get somewhat of a feel for the type of coach/person K was during his tenure there...
Surprisingly a lot of comments were less than positive...
A lot of it was construed as to him being self-serving and always ready to deflect blame on any shortcomings...
Some said that he could get a sore arm for patting himself on the back for so much when the program was on the upswing...
I don’t know, just my 2 cents...
I like K, but aside from that GQ demeanor, and some nice recent success, I really do not think he will ever take UT to the dance...
Calling out certain players after yesterday’s loss probably will not endear him for to have positive chemistry with the team...

After yesterdays game certain players needed to be called out. If that does not endear him then don't play like ****.

I think I would have prefer Coach say something like this; some things will need to be cleaned up first for US to move forward as a winning basketball program. That media statement would have convey a message to the coaching staff and to the players.

The resume is pretty clear.

Good coach when you want to build wins

Not a tourney coach


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Well at least we aren’t talking about Gene Cross!!!

I think we will get to the dance this year! Basketball can be a grind with multiple games in a week. I think it toughens us, and I think we will peak in late Feb/ early March when it counts most!

Go Rockets!!!

Keep the faith mann

Would you trade K for a coach like WMU has? He has been to the dance but rarely is over .500.
It's been Buffalo coaches and Dambrodt who have had the tourney luck. They are all gone.

The WMU coach, would you say he puts more emphasis in the MAC tourney ?

(12-29-2019 10:00 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  

(12-29-2019 01:05 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  Years ago I perused the UWGB board to get somewhat of a feel for the type of coach/person K was during his tenure there...
Surprisingly a lot of comments were less than positive...
A lot of it was construed as to him being self-serving and always ready to deflect blame on any shortcomings...
Some said that he could get a sore arm for patting himself on the back for so much when the program was on the upswing...
I don’t know, just my 2 cents...
I like K, but aside from that GQ demeanor, and some nice recent success, I really do not think he will ever take UT to the dance...
Calling out certain players after yesterday’s loss probably will not endear him for to have positive chemistry with the team...

After yesterdays game certain players needed to be called out. If that does not endear him then don't play like ****.

They should be called out at practice or in the coach's office, not in the media. If O'Brien made a statement to the media that Kowalczyk coached the game poorly, I'm sure Kowalczyk would be plenty pissed, and I can't recall ever hearing an AD do that.

(12-30-2019 11:07 AM)Dwight Wrote:  

(12-29-2019 10:00 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  

(12-29-2019 01:05 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  Years ago I perused the UWGB board to get somewhat of a feel for the type of coach/person K was during his tenure there...
Surprisingly a lot of comments were less than positive...
A lot of it was construed as to him being self-serving and always ready to deflect blame on any shortcomings...
Some said that he could get a sore arm for patting himself on the back for so much when the program was on the upswing...
I don’t know, just my 2 cents...
I like K, but aside from that GQ demeanor, and some nice recent success, I really do not think he will ever take UT to the dance...
Calling out certain players after yesterday’s loss probably will not endear him for to have positive chemistry with the team...

After yesterdays game certain players needed to be called out. If that does not endear him then don't play like ****.

They should be called out at practice or in the coach's office, not in the media. If O'Brien made a statement to the media that Kowalczyk coached the game poorly, I'm sure Kowalczyk would be plenty pissed, and I can't recall ever hearing an AD do that.

1+ on TK’s media call out!

(12-31-2019 11:26 AM)rocket 51 Wrote:  

(12-30-2019 11:07 AM)Dwight Wrote:  

(12-29-2019 10:00 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  

(12-29-2019 01:05 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  Years ago I perused the UWGB board to get somewhat of a feel for the type of coach/person K was during his tenure there...
Surprisingly a lot of comments were less than positive...
A lot of it was construed as to him being self-serving and always ready to deflect blame on any shortcomings...
Some said that he could get a sore arm for patting himself on the back for so much when the program was on the upswing...
I don’t know, just my 2 cents...
I like K, but aside from that GQ demeanor, and some nice recent success, I really do not think he will ever take UT to the dance...
Calling out certain players after yesterday’s loss probably will not endear him for to have positive chemistry with the team...

After yesterdays game certain players needed to be called out. If that does not endear him then don't play like ****.

They should be called out at practice or in the coach's office, not in the media. If O'Brien made a statement to the media that Kowalczyk coached the game poorly, I'm sure Kowalczyk would be plenty pissed, and I can't recall ever hearing an AD do that.

1+ on TK’s media call out!

Agree. Plenty of coaches do that. Mentioning one or two situations by name is no big deal IMO.