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(12-23-2019 02:34 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

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(12-23-2019 02:20 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

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(12-23-2019 08:04 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Over the course of Cronin's tenure at UC he averaged one 4-star player per class and he landed a couple of 5-star players as well. I don't see Brannen's recruiting thus far as anything different than what we had for the past dozen years.

Hmmm Cronin 15ish classes (many in the greatest bball conference of all time) to Brannen's 2 classes ranked in order:

1) Lance Stephenson-Cronin, you could argue he wasn't worth the 1 year if you wanted to (Big East)
2) Jermaine Lawrence-Cronin, Dud, lasted 1 year (Recruited while we were in Big East)
3) Yancy Gates-Cronin (Big East)
4) Zach Harvey-Brannen
5) Jarron Cumberland-Cronin
6) Anthony McClain-Cronin, Dud (Big East)
7) Cashmere Wright-Cronin (Big East)
8) Darnell Wilks-Cronin, Dudish (Big East)
9) Gary Clark-Cronin
10) Tari Eason-Brannen
11) Jermaine Sanders- Cronin, Dudish (Big East)

Lets break it down to top 5 guys for Cronin's classes in the American without the first year and Louisville (Jermaine Lawrence) and 2 classes of Brannen:

1) Zach Harvey-Brannen
2) Jarron Cumberland-Cronin
3) Gary Clark- Cronin
4) Tari Eason-Brannen
5) Keith Williams-Cronin

Within 1 month of landing the job he landed the highest recruit we've had in since joining the American conference.

And considering MAW looks to be our best point guard since Cashmere Wright, I am very optimistic on his recruiting abilities. Saunders looks like a great grab as well. I am not sold on the Madsen brothers, but we will see.

Let’s keep in the mind the very very unique situation Zach Harvey found himself in before committing to UC

It’s not like he stole him away from big name schools. Literally we had to release a press release from our AD the day we signed him because of his past. A ton of schools pulled his offer and even his prep school no longer wanted him to enroll


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To be fair we haven't beat out a blue blood since huggy bear except once in Yancy Gates (hometown kid) with an Indiana offer.

Lance was the same situation if not worse than Harvey. Jermaine Lawrence next best offer was Syracuse.

Anyways it's yet tbd, but if Brannen can put together a couple of a good years I have hope for some big time lands.

I’m more concerned about how long it takes.

This year has been a train wreck.

We got one good win against what will likely just be a tier 2 team, because Lamont turner is now done fir the year. They likely suck in the sec and fall out of the top 75

Next year, we lose multiple contributors.

So we’re likely on a 2 year hiatus from the tourney.

Add in that, I could see a scenario where Zach Harvey bounces out from cincy. He’s barely playing .


I could see us going 10-8 in the AAC this year, and not even reaching 17 wins.





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(12-23-2019 06:22 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Yeah, Clark was #90 nationally in that class.

Kenyon was in the 70’s and people were excited about him when he got here and then everyone freaked when it looked like he was in over his head as a freshman.

(12-23-2019 06:34 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I remember watching Kenyon as a frosh and thinking "meh." Skinny dude who couldnt do much outside of grabbing a board. How wrong I was on that initial assessment and damn gladly so.

My recollection is that Kenyon wasn't very highly regarded when he was being recruited and/or committed but by the latest "final" rankings he cracked a top 100 list or 2, maybe even a top 50. But other "final" rankings had him way back or nowhere to be found.

As far as his freshman season, didn't he have to sit out the first 10 or 15 games or something? We were short on big men (maybe somebody got hurt) so people were anxious to get him out on the court. Then if people were expecting offense from him, they were sorely mistaken, but he showed he could rebound and block shots right from the get go so it depended upon your expectations of him that freshman year. Again, that's just all my recollection without trying to verify any of it.

(12-23-2019 09:22 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 06:22 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Yeah, Clark was #90 nationally in that class.

Kenyon was in the 70’s and people were excited about him when he got here and then everyone freaked when it looked like he was in over his head as a freshman.

(12-23-2019 06:34 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I remember watching Kenyon as a frosh and thinking "meh." Skinny dude who couldnt do much outside of grabbing a board. How wrong I was on that initial assessment and damn gladly so.

My recollection is that Kenyon wasn't very highly regarded when he was being recruited and/or committed but by the latest "final" rankings he cracked a top 100 list or 2, maybe even a top 50. But other "final" rankings had him way back or nowhere to be found.

As far as his freshman season, didn't he have to sit out the first 10 or 15 games or something? We were short on big men (maybe somebody got hurt) so people were anxious to get him out on the court. Then if people were expecting offense from him, they were sorely mistaken, but he showed he could rebound and block shots right from the get go so it depended upon your expectations of him that freshman year. Again, that's just all my recollection without trying to verify any of it.

He sat until January or so. Wasn't eligible.

My recollection is the same as yours. He improved the team right away and you could tell he was going to be good despite limited offense. Never expected his offense to develop like it did though.

(12-23-2019 07:12 PM)bearcat54 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 02:34 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 02:28 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 02:20 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 09:37 AM)natibeast21 Wrote:  Hmmm Cronin 15ish classes (many in the greatest bball conference of all time) to Brannen's 2 classes ranked in order:

1) Lance Stephenson-Cronin, you could argue he wasn't worth the 1 year if you wanted to (Big East)
2) Jermaine Lawrence-Cronin, Dud, lasted 1 year (Recruited while we were in Big East)
3) Yancy Gates-Cronin (Big East)
4) Zach Harvey-Brannen
5) Jarron Cumberland-Cronin
6) Anthony McClain-Cronin, Dud (Big East)
7) Cashmere Wright-Cronin (Big East)
8) Darnell Wilks-Cronin, Dudish (Big East)
9) Gary Clark-Cronin
10) Tari Eason-Brannen
11) Jermaine Sanders- Cronin, Dudish (Big East)

Lets break it down to top 5 guys for Cronin's classes in the American without the first year and Louisville (Jermaine Lawrence) and 2 classes of Brannen:

1) Zach Harvey-Brannen
2) Jarron Cumberland-Cronin
3) Gary Clark- Cronin
4) Tari Eason-Brannen
5) Keith Williams-Cronin

Within 1 month of landing the job he landed the highest recruit we've had in since joining the American conference.

And considering MAW looks to be our best point guard since Cashmere Wright, I am very optimistic on his recruiting abilities. Saunders looks like a great grab as well. I am not sold on the Madsen brothers, but we will see.

Let’s keep in the mind the very very unique situation Zach Harvey found himself in before committing to UC

It’s not like he stole him away from big name schools. Literally we had to release a press release from our AD the day we signed him because of his past. A ton of schools pulled his offer and even his prep school no longer wanted him to enroll


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To be fair we haven't beat out a blue blood since huggy bear except once in Yancy Gates (hometown kid) with an Indiana offer.

Lance was the same situation if not worse than Harvey. Jermaine Lawrence next best offer was Syracuse.

Anyways it's yet tbd, but if Brannen can put together a couple of a good years I have hope for some big time lands.

I’m more concerned about how long it takes.

This year has been a train wreck.

We got one good win against what will likely just be a tier 2 team, because Lamont turner is now done fir the year. They likely suck in the sec and fall out of the top 75

Next year, we lose multiple contributors.

So we’re likely on a 2 year hiatus from the tourney.

Add in that, I could see a scenario where Zach Harvey bounces out from cincy. He’s barely playing .


I could see us going 10-8 in the AAC this year, and not even reaching 17 wins.





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oh ye of little faith :)

Classic case of optimists vs. pessimists.

I try to stay optimistic with UC sports.

(12-23-2019 09:31 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 09:22 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 06:22 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Yeah, Clark was #90 nationally in that class.

Kenyon was in the 70’s and people were excited about him when he got here and then everyone freaked when it looked like he was in over his head as a freshman.

(12-23-2019 06:34 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I remember watching Kenyon as a frosh and thinking "meh." Skinny dude who couldnt do much outside of grabbing a board. How wrong I was on that initial assessment and damn gladly so.

My recollection is that Kenyon wasn't very highly regarded when he was being recruited and/or committed but by the latest "final" rankings he cracked a top 100 list or 2, maybe even a top 50. But other "final" rankings had him way back or nowhere to be found.

As far as his freshman season, didn't he have to sit out the first 10 or 15 games or something? We were short on big men (maybe somebody got hurt) so people were anxious to get him out on the court. Then if people were expecting offense from him, they were sorely mistaken, but he showed he could rebound and block shots right from the get go so it depended upon your expectations of him that freshman year. Again, that's just all my recollection without trying to verify any of it.

He sat until January or so. Wasn't eligible.

My recollection is the same as yours. He improved the team right away and you could tell he was going to be good despite limited offense. Never expected his offense to develop like it did though.

The other guys who played the 5 on that team were a sorta banged up and washed up Jackson Julson, a freshman Ryan Fletcher and what was his name the Juco, Coleman? Bay watch Bobby had the 4 covered.

When Martin got in he was under 10 minutes a game on average but they were appreciated due to limitations in the roster at the 5. Poor kid’s motor and brain moved way faster than needed that first year.

Anyone seen this kid actually play? Watched about 2min of a highlight video and honestly thought "meh". Could have just been a ****** reel though.

(12-23-2019 10:30 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 09:31 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 09:22 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 06:22 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Yeah, Clark was #90 nationally in that class.

Kenyon was in the 70’s and people were excited about him when he got here and then everyone freaked when it looked like he was in over his head as a freshman.

(12-23-2019 06:34 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I remember watching Kenyon as a frosh and thinking "meh." Skinny dude who couldnt do much outside of grabbing a board. How wrong I was on that initial assessment and damn gladly so.

My recollection is that Kenyon wasn't very highly regarded when he was being recruited and/or committed but by the latest "final" rankings he cracked a top 100 list or 2, maybe even a top 50. But other "final" rankings had him way back or nowhere to be found.

As far as his freshman season, didn't he have to sit out the first 10 or 15 games or something? We were short on big men (maybe somebody got hurt) so people were anxious to get him out on the court. Then if people were expecting offense from him, they were sorely mistaken, but he showed he could rebound and block shots right from the get go so it depended upon your expectations of him that freshman year. Again, that's just all my recollection without trying to verify any of it.

He sat until January or so. Wasn't eligible.

My recollection is the same as yours. He improved the team right away and you could tell he was going to be good despite limited offense. Never expected his offense to develop like it did though.

The other guys who played the 5 on that team were a sorta banged up and washed up Jackson Julson, a freshman Ryan Fletcher and what was his name the Juco, Coleman? Bay watch Bobby had the 4 covered.

When Martin got in he was under 10 minutes a game on average but they were appreciated due to limitations in the roster at the 5. Poor kid’s motor and brain moved way faster than needed that first year.

My earliest recollection of KMart dominating a game was his Junior year vs Dayton. A game we actually played overall terrible, but the last 2 possessions KMart had 2 freak like blocks that only a few people would have been able to get to. Here is the article about that game.

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/28/sport...-stay.html

Anyone seen this kid actually play? Watched about 2min of a highlight video and honestly thought "meh". Could have just been a ****** reel though

Coached against Tari at 16U level in 3 tournaments.Only saw him at 17u level in 2 last summer.Predicting players college careers is always tricky so many possible occurrences can happen.That said Tari Eason has every capability too be a 2-3 year starter at UC.1000 plus point scorer 500 rebounds type of career.He is very advanced and skilled as a 4 man.Best ball handling forward I can remember uc having.Being 6'8 may keep him from a nba career but his production at college level will not.

(12-24-2019 10:29 AM)bearcatattack Wrote:  Anyone seen this kid actually play? Watched about 2min of a highlight video and honestly thought "meh". Could have just been a ****** reel though

Coached against Tari at 16U level in 3 tournaments.Only saw him at 17u level in 2 last summer.Predicting players college careers is always tricky so many possible occurrences can happen.That said Tari Eason has every capability too be a 2-3 year starter at UC.1000 plus point scorer 500 rebounds type of career.He is very advanced and skilled as a 4 man.Best ball handling forward I can remember uc having.Being 6'8 may keep him from a nba career but his production at college level will not.

Agree, a lot of his development will hinge on how well he shoots the ball from the perimeter in my opinion. He's one of those guys that is versatile enough at 6'8 to do a lot of things including running the floor. It will be interesting to see with Saunders in the lineup how much it changes the pace of the game and the type of shots we get particularly in transition.

Tari is exceptional in transition.I don't mean just running the floor and finishing either.He can handle and pass.His HS coach is Brandon Roy ex NBA all Star guard.This kid has a very polished game.His production is a top 20-40 player.If he's 6'10 he's a no doubt McDonald's all american

(12-24-2019 10:38 AM)dsquare Wrote:  

(12-24-2019 10:29 AM)bearcatattack Wrote:  Anyone seen this kid actually play? Watched about 2min of a highlight video and honestly thought "meh". Could have just been a ****** reel though

Coached against Tari at 16U level in 3 tournaments.Only saw him at 17u level in 2 last summer.Predicting players college careers is always tricky so many possible occurrences can happen.That said Tari Eason has every capability too be a 2-3 year starter at UC.1000 plus point scorer 500 rebounds type of career.He is very advanced and skilled as a 4 man.Best ball handling forward I can remember uc having.Being 6'8 may keep him from a nba career but his production at college level will not.

Agree, a lot of his development will hinge on how well he shoots the ball from the perimeter in my opinion. He's one of those guys that is versatile enough at 6'8 to do a lot of things including running the floor. It will be interesting to see with Saunders in the lineup how much it changes the pace of the game and the type of shots we get particularly in transition.

Honestly, looking ahead a few years, we could be an absolutely deadly team offensively with Saunders, Adams-Woods, Harvey, Madsen, and Eason. With how well that whole team handles, it would be a dream on the break, and having Saunders penetrate and kick to MAW and Madsen who seem to be guys who can knock down shots at pretty decent rates, I think we're onto something.

Honestly, I cant recall the last time we had three guys in a class dropping 30+ ppg in high school, that's so friggin satisfying to see.

^^^^

Thanks guys, good to hear! Excited for the next couple years if this type of recruiting keep up.

(12-24-2019 05:37 PM)Sweetness Wrote:  Thanks guys, good to hear! Excited for the next couple years if this type of recruiting keep up.

I actually expect the recruiting will steadily improve. Obviously Brannen needs to break thru on the court and put together a good season, but if/when that happens I think it will open up recruiting even further.

For those who want to watch Eason play a game you can watch on YouTube the Iolani Classic Basketball tournament. His team Garfield finished 7th.
Also Mike Saunders team Wasatch played in the same tournament and those games are also available. Wasatch finished 2nd losing to Oak Hill Academy. At least they were three days ago. Oak Hill played Cov Cath at NKU December 7. oak Hill won 50 to 38.

#33 2020 class Rivals
#37 2020 class 247 Sports

Only Houston above us in both out of AAC.

Pretty good. Much better than what Mick was bringing in.

(12-27-2019 11:16 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  #33 2020 class Rivals
#37 2020 class 247 Sports

Only Houston above us in both out of AAC.

Pretty good. Much better than what Mick was bringing in.

Not too shabby for about 9 months into the job with no previous high major experience.

(12-28-2019 08:35 PM)crex043 Wrote:  

(12-27-2019 11:16 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  #33 2020 class Rivals
#37 2020 class 247 Sports

Only Houston above us in both out of AAC.

Pretty good. Much better than what Mick was bringing in.

Not too shabby for about 9 months into the job with no previous high major experience.

(12-27-2019 11:16 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  #33 2020 class Rivals
#37 2020 class 247 Sports

Only Houston above us in both out of AAC.

Pretty good. Much better than what Mick was bringing in.

Where is cal state fullerton on the list?

I was going to call it University of Cincinnati- Los Angeles since we have owned them the last 3 yrs.