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Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker
I won't spoil it for anyone (yet) but I give this one a Siskel and Ebert thumbs up! It has some surprises several of which make sense and it wraps up all nine episodes while delivering on action, conveying information, and yes leaving everyone with a few questions that might make a nice plot line for future sideline movies like a Rogue One or Solo.

It's definitely more satisfying than the Last Jedi.

Have fun.
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(12-22-2019 03:10 AM)JRsec Wrote:  I won't spoil it for anyone (yet) but I give this one a Siskel and Ebert thumbs up! It has some surprises several of which make sense and it wraps up all nine episodes while delivering on action, conveying information, and yes leaving everyone with a few questions that might make a nice plot line for future sideline movies like a Rogue One or Solo.

It's definitely more satisfying than the Last Jedi.

Have fun.

What was the crowd like? Full, average, or low?
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(12-22-2019 02:53 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(12-22-2019 03:10 AM)JRsec Wrote:  I won't spoil it for anyone (yet) but I give this one a Siskel and Ebert thumbs up! It has some surprises several of which make sense and it wraps up all nine episodes while delivering on action, conveying information, and yes leaving everyone with a few questions that might make a nice plot line for future sideline movies like a Rogue One or Solo.

It's definitely more satisfying than the Last Jedi.

Have fun.

What was the crowd like? Full, average, or low?

Well we bought late show tickets on a night where it was cold and pouring down rain. The crowd was lighter than I expected but then all of the Auburn students have gone home for Christmas and the theater is geared for them. So by your criteria for the night and time we went it was low. In the same theater at the same time of day (we go to avoid small children) it was packed and we waited in line for the Last Jedi, but then the University was still in session when it released.
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RE: Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker
I tried watching The Force Awakings, but it had way too much Social Justice message in it. All that junk I heard in all three movies. I give those Disney trilogy of the fake Star Wars all thumbs down. Darth Abrams, Darth Johnson and Darth Kennedy ruined Star Wars forever.

It is a big flop worst than Solo.
People walked out of the movie.
Many theaters were almost empty.
There are movie goers booing.

Rey is the social justice warrior.
Rey never went through the struggles Luke went through.
Rey never got the training on how to use the force.
Killing off Han, Luke, Leia and Ben Solo ended the Skywalker name.
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(12-22-2019 04:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I tried watching The Force Awakings, but it had way too much Social Justice message in it. All that junk I heard in all three movies. I give those Disney trilogy of the fake Star Wars all thumbs down. Darth Abrams, Darth Johnson and Darth Kennedy ruined Star Wars forever.

It is a big flop worst than Solo.
People walked out of the movie.
Many theaters were almost empty.
There are movie goers booing.

Rey is the social justice warrior.
Rey never went through the struggles Luke went through.
Rey never got the training on how to use the force.
Killing off Han, Luke, Leia and Ben Solo ended the Skywalker name.

I didn't see any of that crap in the last movie David. You should try actually reading and watching and experience politics, religion, and movies before you pass judgment on them based on what "others" say. There was no booing during the movie in the very conservative South and nobody left the theatre during the film, and most were positively discussing it when they left.

But if Millennials stayed away it was in response to the hive mind released by the MSM which probably didn't like the absence of the social justice crap from this film. And for the record it showed Rey in training before she faced the Dark Side, much like Luke did with Yoda.

The vapid nature of your collective observations is mind numbing.
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Booing at Rey for stealing Skywalker's name

There is cases like this all over the place. Disney alienated the old fans and the sjw harpies at the end. There are really a few like you who seemed to like the crap Abrams and Kennedy gave us. Just a few weeks ago, they finished doing shooting on the movie after test audience walked out during the movie. They were adding last minute stuff like the Ewoks, Palpatine (Lucas said the Emperor is dead for good), the Death Star and all that.

They wanted to blow up the Falcon with R2D2, Lando, Chewy and C3PO and some of the new characters.

Rose Tico as a transgender and so much more.
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RE: Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker
(12-22-2019 09:28 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Booing at Rey for stealing Skywalker's name

There is cases like this all over the place. Disney alienated the old fans and the sjw harpies at the end. There are really a few like you who seemed to like the crap Abrams and Kennedy gave us. Just a few weeks ago, they finished doing shooting on the movie after test audience walked out during the movie. They were adding last minute stuff like the Ewoks, Palpatine (Lucas said the Emperor is dead for good), the Death Star and all that.

They wanted to blow up the Falcon with R2D2, Lando, Chewy and C3PO and some of the new characters.

Rose Tico as a transgender and so much more.

Yeah, right! It's the third highest rated opening of the Star War's franchise. Try again!
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I said I would not be seeing Episode IX after watching the "worst Jedi", and I see I made the correct decision. I knew Abrams couldn't fix this mess, and I was right. As far as I'm concerned, Star Wars ended with the conclusion of Return of the Jedi. I'll accept Rogue One. It was good. But all of the other Disney films stink. Shame on Lucas for selling out to Disney.
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The rule of thumb for telling a story? Do not write a character that are the exact opposite of who he/she are like they did to Luke, Leia and Han. Luke would never be a hermit, and he would take in Rey to teach her about the Force like both Obi Wan and Yoda did for him.
2.Do not kill off all the legacy characters off. You need around for the future for the new characters.
3.Do not make a person to have super human powers in a story. The force does not work that way which they made Rey to be all more powerful before her.
4.Do not alienate the older fans to pissed them off like The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi did. They are now saying that Disney will lose money on this movie because what Abrams, Kennedy and Johnson did.
5.Do not put social justice politics, or elements of what is cool in the films. I mean Twilight, Harry Potter, Hunger Games and Game of Thrones do not work in a Star Wars movie.
6.George made Star Wars for the whole family at PG. Not PG 13.
7.Star Wars characters are not from earth. Treat them that way.
8.Don't call the fans as Fandom Menace or Toxic. It was you who turned the fans against the franchise. Not talking to you JR. I am talking about Kennedy, Abrams, Johnson and the shill MSM that are doing this which makes things worst.
9.They did a screening test for the ending, and they used one that the fans walked out of. The one the fans did not walked out on was George Lucas with Luke still alive, but his death was a test on Rey on how she could handle herself. I think they should have gone with Lucas's ending which Rey would become his adoptive daughter which she really wanted. This would have made both Daisy and Mark happy and could have saved the movie from being a bomb.
As it is, the movie will lose money as it made less than what they wanted it to be.
I am a true Star Wars fan of George Lucas's visions. Disney's Star Wars are fakes.
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RE: Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker
(12-22-2019 11:22 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  I said I would not be seeing Episode IX after watching the "worst Jedi", and I see I made the correct decision. I knew Abrams couldn't fix this mess, and I was right. As far as I'm concerned, Star Wars ended with the conclusion of Return of the Jedi. I'll accept Rogue One. It was good. But all of the other Disney films stink. Shame on Lucas for selling out to Disney.


They should make the Mandalorian as a movie. Baby Yoda would sell out the theaters big time.
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Saw it last night and it was meh...it was another rehash of Empire and Return. Nothing in this past a Trilogy was new, just a remake of the old ones. It has been pretty disappointing series even if the PC stuff wasn’t in there.
I did like Rogue One as that filled a gap of how the plans were stolen.

The prequels had its issues but at least it was an original storyline of how the Emperor and the Empire developed.
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(12-23-2019 08:51 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Saw it last night and it was meh...it was another rehash of Empire and Return. Nothing in this past a Trilogy was new, just a remake of the old ones. It has been pretty disappointing series even if the PC stuff wasn’t in there.
I did like Rogue One as that filled a gap of how the plans were stolen.

The prequels had its issues but at least it was an original storyline of how the Emperor and the Empire developed.

I definitely agree about Rogue One. I was up there with the first three which were great. I thought the weakest 3 were the prequels and Last Jedi. I would rate The Force Awakens and the Rise of Skywalker ahead of the prequels and well behind Rogue One and the first three so we aren't off on our evaluations. I've just come to expect less. Also I look for a singular message to the public inside every movie I watch including Star Wars. What I found that I liked in this last one was that we are the sum of all of our ancestors that went before us (a Asian and African understanding of familial responsibility which I think is beneficial in establishing cultural expectations and is lacking here to a degree within those cultures) but in the end Rey has to choose who she will be, one in the lineage of Palpatine or will she follow the lineage of those who adopted her? All those who come to the United States should realize that they have been adopted and if they choose to follow their old lineage and its customs they may well find they are cross purposes with the customs and lineage of this nation.

I'm sure that wasn't the intended message of Disney, God forbid, but it is nevertheless a Christian philosophy. As children of God we are reborn in nature and are adopted. It wouldn't hurt for all of those who seek a life here to understand fully that this means they have chosen to follow our way of life and that it's time to bury the Palpatines of their past existence.
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The Rise of Skywalker would have been different.

Matt Smith aka the Doctor from Doctor Who was supposed to be in this movie. Half way through the movie, the studio called to changed that, and have to go another way, and Matt wasted his time, and what was filmed went unused with him out of the movie.
Jannah or how you spell her name, in a Star Wars book, Lando had a daughter who went missing, but was held by the First Order. It was hinted that she is Lando's daughter which we might see a Disney+ spin off on Lando trying to find this young woman's parents.
Another script was that C3PO was programmed to carry a bomb on the Falcon to blow the ship up. They had to recast that.
Colin Trevorrow was reported to quit because of Rian Johnson ruined his script when Rian wrote The Last Jedi. The script was reportedly have Luke in a major role in episode 9 being alive. Killing Luke off ruined Trevorrow'svscript. The script was that Rey's father could be none other than Luke himself.
John Boyguia's (sp) script was taken and was auctioned off on EBay. Episode 9 had to do a lot of reshooting by adding more stuff in that wound up rehashed storyline from Empire and Return. They had to changed Rey's dad to Palpatine. The Emperor was not supposed to be in episode 9. Luke was. Star Wars Rise of Skywalker was not finished until just weeks before the opening. The problem is with George Lucas came in to help saved the franchise? The evil mouse prevented him from doing that. George had new ideas that were not a rehash storylines.
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RE: Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker
I didn't dislike it.

After watching it, I didn't get the full hate train from the reviews of it. One review I did agree with though is that the movie did seem like an answer sheet to all the hate TLJ got. And in that sense, it was kind of less of an edge.

It was a decent capper to the new trilogy but you could tell they wanted to close off a lot of loops/holes in the story. I can buy some of the angles that they took story wise.

I'd rank out this as follows:

IV-VI > VII-IX > I-III

then by series:

IV~=V>VI
II>I>III
VII ~= VII>IX

IMO, the Star Wars franchise under Disney has had one stellar movie and that was Rogue One. TFA was a promising start but it did feel like ANH redux. TLJ made some odd choices for narrative considering the series even if I could buy some of the logic based on the story points. tRoS though, definitely came across as a response to the backlash of TLJ. Now Solo, IMO wasn't bad. It was just tough to pull off a young Han Solo based off Harrison Ford's prior work and the whole Lando and his droid thing was just weird.

But lets not kid ourselves here, the original trilogy objectively wasn't great but it had a good working scifi concept and heart. The prequel trilogy had issues based on numerous things such as Lucas going back to it so long after the originals, his infatuation with digital technology, lack of heart amongst the characters ( almost every interaction among characters felt forced), and it having to end a certain way and based on key points brought up in the original trilogy some backstories needed to be shown. The new ones definitely feel like a corporate puppet master was guiding the end result.
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Interesting take... I'll take a crack at ranking the movies.

I consider the first 4 the real Star Wars films

1. IV- Set up the entire series, and changed cinema and marketing.
2. V- Dark and underappreciated when it was made.
3. VI- Nowhere near as good as IV or V. Vader should looked better when they took his helmet off, not like Elmer Fudd.
4. Rouge One- Great set up to the originals. Gareth Edwards and that writing team should have made all of the Disney Star Wars films. My one complaint is that Forest Whitaker was bad as Saw Gerrera. In general, I think that character could have been much cooler.

This is where things get rough.....

5. Solo- Not a bad story, but the droid/Lando love storyline was creepy. The droid rights agenda was stupid. Disney should leave their social agendas out of the films, and let the audience enjoy being in a galaxy far far away. I think this is a running issue within almost all of the Disney Star Wars films.
6. III- All of the prequels are bad, but at least we learn about Darth Plagueis and how Sidious learned to create Anakin/Darth Vader from the midichlorians.

These 3 are almost unwatchable...

7. I- Young Anakin isn't as annoying as Hayden Christensen's Anakin.
8. VII- It wasn't too far removed from the themes of the original films, but tired too hard to push new character into the series without building substance to them.
9 II- This is the Godfather III of the Star Wars series. It was just terrible. All of the prequels were bad, but this was the worst of the bunch.









Unworthy of consideration...

viii- Nothing about this crap belongs in the Star Wars universe. I saw it at the theater when it was released, and will never watch it again. I will never forgive Disney for this POS.

ix- Have not seen it and probably never will. No one I trust has told me this film fixed what tlj broke.
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I'm going to try and go see it tonight.
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Another take that the original script had Emperor Palpatine would have revealed that Anakin is his son which made Rey possibly Luke and Leia's sister, or a daughter of Luke's. The people running Lucasfilms trying to say it is not, but it was not canon from books at all. Skywalker is the destiny to the force. ix put a bunch of plot loop holes from the first 6 movies.
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So I went and watched it last night.

These 3 movies could've been so much more than what they were. Honestly if JJ would've done all 3 who knows what the potential could've been. This trilogy is better in my opinion than the Prequels, out of the prequels only one I thought was good was Revenge of the Sith.

That being said here's the things I saw that I liked:

The story wasn't bad. I liked the plot.
The fight scenes were great. I especially liked the final battle.
Rey's training sequence was great.
I felt like they gave Carrie Fisher an excellent send off. I thought that was nicely done.
Plus it was a Star Wars movie.

Here's what I didn't like:

Finn. I mean seriously we went from this guy being a deserter to being in the middle of a fight. In TFA he's got a thing for Rey.. In TLJ he's got a thing for Rose.. In this one he's back to Rey but then flirts with Jannah for the second half of the movie. On top of that he seems really needy.

The whole Sith angle, I wish they'd built on it more, but it seems it was rushed a little in the scenes with Palpatine along with his return. I wish they'd teased it in TLJ, again JJ needed to do all three and it wouldn't had seemed there was a big rush in TRS.

We FINALLY get a glimpse into Rey's past, but it was a glimpse. We didn't see the full scope of her past which would've been nice. I mean who were her parents truly. We know she's a grand daughter but which one was the offspring?

There was a lot going on in this movie to cover in 2 hours. Alot of this should've been covered in TLJ ala Empire Strikes Back.

The last scene was good.

David if you haven't seen it, go see it. I didn't see as much as the SJW stuff in this one like I saw in the last one. This to me felt like a SW movie.
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(12-25-2019 03:30 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Interesting take... I'll take a crack at ranking the movies.

I consider the first 4 the real Star Wars films

1. IV- Set up the entire series, and changed cinema and marketing.
2. V- Dark and underappreciated when it was made.
3. VI- Nowhere near as good as IV or V. Vader should looked better when they took his helmet off, not like Elmer Fudd.
4. Rouge One- Great set up to the originals. Gareth Edwards and that writing team should have made all of the Disney Star Wars films. My one complaint is that Forest Whitaker was bad as Saw Gerrera. In general, I think that character could have been much cooler.

I can agree with the above. I loved RoTJ. I watched it alot as a kid growing up, so it holds a special place with me.

Quote:This is where things get rough.....

5. Solo- Not a bad story, but the droid/Lando love storyline was creepy. The droid rights agenda was stupid. Disney should leave their social agendas out of the films, and let the audience enjoy being in a galaxy far far away. I think this is a running issue within almost all of the Disney Star Wars films.
6. III- All of the prequels are bad, but at least we learn about Darth Plagueis and how Sidious learned to create Anakin/Darth Vader from the midichlorians.

Eh.. I disagree about Revenge of the Sith.. I'm not sure it shows that Sidious created Vader. I'll have to go back and watch.

Quote:These 3 are almost unwatchable...

7. I- Young Anakin isn't as annoying as Hayden Christensen's Anakin.- agreed
8. VII- It wasn't too far removed from the themes of the original films, but tired too hard to push new character into the series without building substance to them.- agree to some extent
9 II- This is the Godfather III of the Star Wars series. It was just terrible. All of the prequels were bad, but this was the worst of the bunch.
agreed

See my comments in the quote.

Quote:Unworthy of consideration...

viii- Nothing about this crap belongs in the Star Wars universe. I saw it at the theater when it was released, and will never watch it again. I will never forgive Disney for this POS.- While I thought it could've been better there was a few things I liked about it.

ix- Have not seen it and probably never will. No one I trust has told me this film fixed what tlj broke.- It didn't fix anything that was broken from TLJ.
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