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(12-22-2019 06:46 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(12-22-2019 06:04 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
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(12-20-2019 09:27 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  I understand what everyone's saying, but this is his 7th recruiting class! And we're still in the bottom half! Why has Miami Ohio become relevant again? Why did PJ Fleck take an average W Mich program to new heights?, why did Jason Campbell dominate?, and look at at this Bowling Green staff! Folks talent matters! We focus way too much on JUCO's as well! Yes, we've gotten some really good players, but every 2 years they come and go! I think Chris Creighton has done the almost impossible, taking a program that was one of the worst in D1 and has made us respectable, but we're A .500 team every year, and recruiting is what will take us to the next level! I want us to win as bad as everyone does on this board!!!!!!!

What no one talks about, though, is that CC has very high standards for student-athlete conduct.

He doesn't sell his soul to the devil for a recruit.

Quick pivot, Oakland U MBB has taken on some questionable kids and won. Nunn who left Illinois and ended up at Oakland is now doing very well in the NBA.

I doubt C.C. would have taken Nunn if he had been a a CFB player.

Agree 100%! How many coaches suspend Roback and Crosby when he did? I, for one, agree with his stance. EMU does not get much media coverage but I am certain that a situation like the MSU mess and the WMU arrests recently would be front page material. Ask Dantonio if he would recruit Corley, Vance and King again.

Might sound paradoxical, but not taking kids with issues almost puts a ceiling on our program.

We may never get a Randy Moss.

You are again correct. Many sports teams can absorb Diva athletes and due to their successful tradition and organizational infrastructure, make them comply and contribute. The Pistons were able to transform Aguirre, Rodman and Rasheed Wallace into good citizens during their heyday. New England did so with Moss and took a chance on Antonio Brown because they are well, the Patriots.

Teams without a winning legacy, however, like the Browns don't do so well with high maintenance athletes like OBJ. EMU football has no winning history either. Creighton probably would not have recruited Ray Lee due to his prior rape allegations. He certainly would not have tolerated his or James Thompson's behavior in their senior years.

I love the football program's involvement with Habitat for Humanity, the day at Rynearson for special needs kids and the fact that the student athletes we are graduating are admirable human beings. At this point I will defer to the Creighton strategy and support the program 100%.

That a boy, Jerry!! Well said!!!
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Without getting into specific detail, I am aware of at least one transfer portal player who has reached out to EMU from a Big Ten program. The Eagle's football program is building a reputation that is catching the attention of those playing and coaching the game. In my book, that in itself says a hell of a lot about what CC and his crew are doing for this program. Media ranking is subjective at best, and should always be taken with a grain of salt.
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(12-23-2019 09:28 AM)cidbearit Wrote:  Without getting into specific detail, I am aware of at least one transfer portal player who has reached out to EMU from a Big Ten program. The Eagle's football program is building a reputation that is catching the attention of those playing and coaching the game. In my book, that in itself says a hell of a lot about what CC and his crew are doing for this program. Media ranking is subjective at best, and should always be taken with a grain of salt.
Thanks for the info. Can you at least say this player's position or school?
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(12-23-2019 09:28 AM)cidbearit Wrote:  Without getting into specific detail, I am aware of at least one transfer portal player who has reached out to EMU from a Big Ten program. The Eagle's football program is building a reputation that is catching the attention of those playing and coaching the game. In my book, that in itself says a hell of a lot about what CC and his crew are doing for this program. Media ranking is subjective at best, and should always be taken with a grain of salt.

Amen. Well said.

I have been following EMU FB for over a quarter century.

Have to walk before you can run. EMU is just starting to run... 03-idea

BTW, here is where one can look at players in the transfer portal. I'd think it is like trying to find a needle in the haystack but if it is your thing, have at it...

https://247sports.com/college/illinois/S...ferPortal/
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(12-23-2019 09:44 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  
(12-23-2019 09:28 AM)cidbearit Wrote:  Without getting into specific detail, I am aware of at least one transfer portal player who has reached out to EMU from a Big Ten program. The Eagle's football program is building a reputation that is catching the attention of those playing and coaching the game. In my book, that in itself says a hell of a lot about what CC and his crew are doing for this program. Media ranking is subjective at best, and should always be taken with a grain of salt.
Thanks for the info. Can you at least say this player's position or school?

Hmmm....position might be a giveaway...but he wouldn't need to change uniform colors.
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My guess is Dimitri Douglas OT from MSU who is from Saline.
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(12-23-2019 12:10 PM)emu79 Wrote:  My guess is Dimitri Douglas OT from MSU who is from Saline.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports...357324002/
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(12-23-2019 12:10 PM)emu79 Wrote:  My guess is Dimitri Douglas OT from MSU who is from Saline.
I agree with that guess. Transfers probably want to be on campus in January. That way they can participate in Spring ball.
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Wouldn't expect much from any 3rd/4th string Big 10 transfers. Remember our last '4 star' OL Wolverine transfer? Right, nobody does.

Better to go get a Juco stud that is immediately eligible, and has current playing time and film.
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(12-24-2019 12:03 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Wouldn't expect much from any 3rd/4th string Big 10 transfers. Remember our last '4 star' OL Wolverine transfer? Right, nobody does.

Better to go get a Juco stud that is immediately eligible, and has current playing time and film.

Dan Samuelson. He was a good student and represented EMU well. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

Most football players don't become stars. Many get little playing time. That doesn't make them a failure.
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(12-24-2019 12:03 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Wouldn't expect much from any 3rd/4th string Big 10 transfers. Remember our last '4 star' OL Wolverine transfer? Right, nobody does.

Better to go get a Juco stud that is immediately eligible, and has current playing time and film.

I remember. Dan Samuelson, a nice young man transferred here from U-M. Scout team career at EMU. Enough said.
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(12-24-2019 06:13 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 12:03 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Wouldn't expect much from any 3rd/4th string Big 10 transfers. Remember our last '4 star' OL Wolverine transfer? Right, nobody does.

Better to go get a Juco stud that is immediately eligible, and has current playing time and film.

I remember. Dan Samuelson, a nice young man transferred here from U-M. Scout team career at EMU. Enough said.

Tyler Wiegers worked out pretty ok. Other schools make power conference transfers work - no reason we can't.
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(12-25-2019 08:49 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 06:13 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 12:03 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Wouldn't expect much from any 3rd/4th string Big 10 transfers. Remember our last '4 star' OL Wolverine transfer? Right, nobody does.

Better to go get a Juco stud that is immediately eligible, and has current playing time and film.

I remember. Dan Samuelson, a nice young man transferred here from U-M. Scout team career at EMU. Enough said.

Tyler Wiegers worked out pretty ok. Other schools make power conference transfers work - no reason we can't.

I suspect there are more errors made with transfer OLs than other positions.
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(12-24-2019 05:37 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 12:03 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Wouldn't expect much from any 3rd/4th string Big 10 transfers. Remember our last '4 star' OL Wolverine transfer? Right, nobody does.

Better to go get a Juco stud that is immediately eligible, and has current playing time and film.

Dan Samuelson. He was a good student and represented EMU well. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

Most football players don't become stars. Many get little playing time. That doesn't make them a failure.

You don't give a P5 transfer a roster spot and a full scholarship to be a good student, and 3rd string backup. Period.

Feel good comments like 'good student, represented EMU well, nothing to be ashamed of, don't become stars, little playing time, doesn't make them a failure' are cute distractions......and totally irrelevant to the topic of this thread.

If you've got P5 transfers that have actually played, that's one thing. If you're just trying to project based on overrated High School rankings, that's just poor recruiting.

Wiegers really was a great kid , but hindsight says Glass was the better QB, and all Wiegers did was take a half season from him. Creighton went all in on Wiegers without any real time game evidence that he was better than the QB's we already had on our roster. As is Creighton's nature, once Wiegers committed to him, as an upperclassman, he felt an obligation to give him the first crack at the starting job.

In a lot of instances, Creighton's loyalty is commendable and a great trait. In the real world of winning football games, the better football player should be playing, regardless of seniority.

Give me a P5 grad transfer that started at a position of need......all day long!
Give me a highly ranked Juco starter at a position of need....most days.
Give me a P5 transfer that has never started, without any game film.....rarely.

EMU doesn't have the resources to just take flyers on guys. More and more G5 schools are using the transfer portal to fill out their rosters. Let's get at the forefront of this trend, do it smartly, and start adding immediate impact players. If we don't, you can be sure our MAC competitors will. I'm here in Dallas and this is exactly what Sonny Dykes did to lead SMU to it's first 10 win season since the Pony Express days. The key was Shane Buechele, a prior University of Texas STARTER.

https://www.thescore.com/ncaaf/news/1865266

Douglas looks a lot like Samuelson II. Our defense DESPERATELY NEEDS impact DE's & LB's. Let's see a couple legit P5 or Juco transfers at those positions and we'll be making progress. If we go into next season without upgrades at those positions, that's going to be a problem again, and head scratching.
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(12-25-2019 01:06 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 05:37 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 12:03 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Wouldn't expect much from any 3rd/4th string Big 10 transfers. Remember our last '4 star' OL Wolverine transfer? Right, nobody does.

Better to go get a Juco stud that is immediately eligible, and has current playing time and film.

Dan Samuelson. He was a good student and represented EMU well. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

Most football players don't become stars. Many get little playing time. That doesn't make them a failure.

You don't give a P5 transfer a roster spot and a full scholarship to be a good student, and 3rd string backup. Period.

Feel good comments like 'good student, represented EMU well, nothing to be ashamed of, don't become stars, little playing time, doesn't make them a failure' are cute distractions......and totally irrelevant to the topic of this thread.

If you've got P5 transfers that have actually played, that's one thing. If you're just trying to project based on overrated High School rankings, that's just poor recruiting.

Wiegers really was a great kid , but hindsight says Glass was the better QB, and all Wiegers did was take a half season from him. Creighton went all in on Wiegers without any real time game evidence that he was better than the QB's we already had on our roster. As is Creighton's nature, once Wiegers committed to him, as an upperclassman, he felt an obligation to give him the first crack at the starting job.

In a lot of instances, Creighton's loyalty is commendable and a great trait. In the real world of winning football games, the better football player should be playing, regardless of seniority.

Give me a P5 grad transfer that started at a position of need......all day long!
Give me a highly ranked Juco starter at a position of need....most days.
Give me a P5 transfer that has never started, without any game film.....rarely.

EMU doesn't have the resources to just take flyers on guys. More and more G5 schools are using the transfer portal to fill out their rosters. Let's get at the forefront of this trend, do it smartly, and start adding immediate impact players. If we don't, you can be sure our MAC competitors will. I'm here in Dallas and this is exactly what Sonny Dykes did to lead SMU to it's first 10 win season since the Pony Express days. The key was Shane Buechele, a prior University of Texas STARTER.

https://www.thescore.com/ncaaf/news/1865266

Douglas looks a lot like Samuelson II. Our defense DESPERATELY NEEDS impact DE's & LB's. Let's see a couple legit P5 or Juco transfers at those positions and we'll be making progress. If we go into next season without upgrades at those positions, that's going to be a problem again, and head scratching.

You nailed that 10,000 percent! He's way too loyal, and doesn't always play the best player at the position! RB and QB lately are 2 great examples!
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(12-25-2019 01:06 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 05:37 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 12:03 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Wouldn't expect much from any 3rd/4th string Big 10 transfers. Remember our last '4 star' OL Wolverine transfer? Right, nobody does.

Better to go get a Juco stud that is immediately eligible, and has current playing time and film.

Dan Samuelson. He was a good student and represented EMU well. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

Most football players don't become stars. Many get little playing time. That doesn't make them a failure.

You don't give a P5 transfer a roster spot and a full scholarship to be a good student, and 3rd string backup. Period.

Feel good comments like 'good student, represented EMU well, nothing to be ashamed of, don't become stars, little playing time, doesn't make them a failure' are cute distractions......and totally irrelevant to the topic of this thread.

If you've got P5 transfers that have actually played, that's one thing. If you're just trying to project based on overrated High School rankings, that's just poor recruiting.

Wiegers really was a great kid , but hindsight says Glass was the better QB, and all Wiegers did was take a half season from him. Creighton went all in on Wiegers without any real time game evidence that he was better than the QB's we already had on our roster. As is Creighton's nature, once Wiegers committed to him, as an upperclassman, he felt an obligation to give him the first crack at the starting job.

In a lot of instances, Creighton's loyalty is commendable and a great trait. In the real world of winning football games, the better football player should be playing, regardless of seniority.

Give me a P5 grad transfer that started at a position of need......all day long!
Give me a highly ranked Juco starter at a position of need....most days.
Give me a P5 transfer that has never started, without any game film.....rarely.

EMU doesn't have the resources to just take flyers on guys. More and more G5 schools are using the transfer portal to fill out their rosters. Let's get at the forefront of this trend, do it smartly, and start adding immediate impact players. If we don't, you can be sure our MAC competitors will. I'm here in Dallas and this is exactly what Sonny Dykes did to lead SMU to it's first 10 win season since the Pony Express days. The key was Shane Buechele, a prior University of Texas STARTER.

https://www.thescore.com/ncaaf/news/1865266

Douglas looks a lot like Samuelson II. Our defense DESPERATELY NEEDS impact DE's & LB's. Let's see a couple legit P5 or Juco transfers at those positions and we'll be making progress. If we go into next season without upgrades at those positions, that's going to be a problem again, and head scratching.

Probably the most solid post I have read in months. Dead spot on.
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(12-25-2019 01:06 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 05:37 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 12:03 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Wouldn't expect much from any 3rd/4th string Big 10 transfers. Remember our last '4 star' OL Wolverine transfer? Right, nobody does.

Better to go get a Juco stud that is immediately eligible, and has current playing time and film.

Dan Samuelson. He was a good student and represented EMU well. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

Most football players don't become stars. Many get little playing time. That doesn't make them a failure.

You don't give a P5 transfer a roster spot and a full scholarship to be a good student, and 3rd string backup. Period.

Feel good comments like 'good student, represented EMU well, nothing to be ashamed of, don't become stars, little playing time, doesn't make them a failure' are cute distractions......and totally irrelevant to the topic of this thread.

If you've got P5 transfers that have actually played, that's one thing. If you're just trying to project based on overrated High School rankings, that's just poor recruiting.

Wiegers really was a great kid , but hindsight says Glass was the better QB, and all Wiegers did was take a half season from him. Creighton went all in on Wiegers without any real time game evidence that he was better than the QB's we already had on our roster. As is Creighton's nature, once Wiegers committed to him, as an upperclassman, he felt an obligation to give him the first crack at the starting job.

In a lot of instances, Creighton's loyalty is commendable and a great trait. In the real world of winning football games, the better football player should be playing, regardless of seniority.

Give me a P5 grad transfer that started at a position of need......all day long!
Give me a highly ranked Juco starter at a position of need....most days.
Give me a P5 transfer that has never started, without any game film.....rarely.

EMU doesn't have the resources to just take flyers on guys. More and more G5 schools are using the transfer portal to fill out their rosters. Let's get at the forefront of this trend, do it smartly, and start adding immediate impact players. If we don't, you can be sure our MAC competitors will. I'm here in Dallas and this is exactly what Sonny Dykes did to lead SMU to it's first 10 win season since the Pony Express days. The key was Shane Buechele, a prior University of Texas STARTER.

https://www.thescore.com/ncaaf/news/1865266

Douglas looks a lot like Samuelson II. Our defense DESPERATELY NEEDS impact DE's & LB's. Let's see a couple legit P5 or Juco transfers at those positions and we'll be making progress. If we go into next season without upgrades at those positions, that's going to be a problem again, and head scratching.

You nailed that 10,000 percent! He's way too loyal, and doesn't always play the best player at the position! RB and QB lately are 2 great examples!

God was I pissed when I saw Daugherty playing against Kent St with all the wide receiver talent we had on the bench. Then again I saw Creighton giving a fifth year senior coming off a serious injury a chance to play in what was likely his last chance to play football. Chris is who he is, Mr. Juco Rick Rasnick was the opposite. If forced to choose I will take Creighton.
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(12-25-2019 06:26 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(12-25-2019 03:53 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  
(12-25-2019 01:06 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 05:37 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 12:03 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Wouldn't expect much from any 3rd/4th string Big 10 transfers. Remember our last '4 star' OL Wolverine transfer? Right, nobody does.

Better to go get a Juco stud that is immediately eligible, and has current playing time and film.

Dan Samuelson. He was a good student and represented EMU well. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

Most football players don't become stars. Many get little playing time. That doesn't make them a failure.

You don't give a P5 transfer a roster spot and a full scholarship to be a good student, and 3rd string backup. Period.

Feel good comments like 'good student, represented EMU well, nothing to be ashamed of, don't become stars, little playing time, doesn't make them a failure' are cute distractions......and totally irrelevant to the topic of this thread.

If you've got P5 transfers that have actually played, that's one thing. If you're just trying to project based on overrated High School rankings, that's just poor recruiting.

Wiegers really was a great kid , but hindsight says Glass was the better QB, and all Wiegers did was take a half season from him. Creighton went all in on Wiegers without any real time game evidence that he was better than the QB's we already had on our roster. As is Creighton's nature, once Wiegers committed to him, as an upperclassman, he felt an obligation to give him the first crack at the starting job.

In a lot of instances, Creighton's loyalty is commendable and a great trait. In the real world of winning football games, the better football player should be playing, regardless of seniority.

Give me a P5 grad transfer that started at a position of need......all day long!
Give me a highly ranked Juco starter at a position of need....most days.
Give me a P5 transfer that has never started, without any game film.....rarely.

EMU doesn't have the resources to just take flyers on guys. More and more G5 schools are using the transfer portal to fill out their rosters. Let's get at the forefront of this trend, do it smartly, and start adding immediate impact players. If we don't, you can be sure our MAC competitors will. I'm here in Dallas and this is exactly what Sonny Dykes did to lead SMU to it's first 10 win season since the Pony Express days. The key was Shane Buechele, a prior University of Texas STARTER.

https://www.thescore.com/ncaaf/news/1865266

Douglas looks a lot like Samuelson II. Our defense DESPERATELY NEEDS impact DE's & LB's. Let's see a couple legit P5 or Juco transfers at those positions and we'll be making progress. If we go into next season without upgrades at those positions, that's going to be a problem again, and head scratching.

You nailed that 10,000 percent! He's way too loyal, and doesn't always play the best player at the position! RB and QB lately are 2 great examples!

God was I pissed when I saw Daugherty playing against Kent St with all the wide receiver talent we had on the bench. Then again I saw Creighton giving a fifth year senior coming off a serious injury a chance to play in what was likely his last chance to play football. Chris is who he is, Mr. Juco Rick Rasnick was the opposite. If forced to choose I will take Creighton.

100%. Giving Daugherty some snaps in his final game, for all the time and effort he invested in the program, was absolutely commendable and the right thing to do. Daugherty wasn't a 3rd/4th string guy, and he could certainly get open and make a catch or two if needed.
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(12-25-2019 01:06 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 05:37 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Dan Samuelson. He was a good student and represented EMU well. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

Most football players don't become stars. Many get little playing time. That doesn't make them a failure.

You don't give a P5 transfer a roster spot and a full scholarship to be a good student, and 3rd string backup. Period.

Feel good comments like 'good student, represented EMU well, nothing to be ashamed of, don't become stars, little playing time, doesn't make them a failure' are cute distractions......and totally irrelevant to the topic of this thread.

If you've got P5 transfers that have actually played, that's one thing. If you're just trying to project based on overrated High School rankings, that's just poor recruiting.

Wiegers really was a great kid , but hindsight says Glass was the better QB, and all Wiegers did was take a half season from him. Creighton went all in on Wiegers without any real time game evidence that he was better than the QB's we already had on our roster. As is Creighton's nature, once Wiegers committed to him, as an upperclassman, he felt an obligation to give him the first crack at the starting job.

In a lot of instances, Creighton's loyalty is commendable and a great trait. In the real world of winning football games, the better football player should be playing, regardless of seniority.

Give me a P5 grad transfer that started at a position of need......all day long!
Give me a highly ranked Juco starter at a position of need....most days.
Give me a P5 transfer that has never started, without any game film.....rarely.

EMU doesn't have the resources to just take flyers on guys. More and more G5 schools are using the transfer portal to fill out their rosters. Let's get at the forefront of this trend, do it smartly, and start adding immediate impact players. If we don't, you can be sure our MAC competitors will. I'm here in Dallas and this is exactly what Sonny Dykes did to lead SMU to it's first 10 win season since the Pony Express days. The key was Shane Buechele, a prior University of Texas STARTER.

https://www.thescore.com/ncaaf/news/1865266

Douglas looks a lot like Samuelson II. Our defense DESPERATELY NEEDS impact DE's & LB's. Let's see a couple legit P5 or Juco transfers at those positions and we'll be making progress. If we go into next season without upgrades at those positions, that's going to be a problem again, and head scratching.

You nailed that 10,000 percent! He's way too loyal, and doesn't always play the best player at the position! RB and QB lately are 2 great examples!

God was I pissed when I saw Daugherty playing against Kent St with all the wide receiver talent we had on the bench. Then again I saw Creighton giving a fifth year senior coming off a serious injury a chance to play in what was likely his last chance to play football. Chris is who he is, Mr. Juco Rick Rasnick was the opposite. If forced to choose I will take Creighton.

100%. Giving Daugherty some snaps in his final game, for all the time and effort he invested in the program, was absolutely commendable and the right thing to do. Daugherty wasn't a 3rd/4th string guy, and he could certainly get open and make a catch or two if needed.

I agree with ETough. I saw Daugherty the summer (June) 2018 with his knee after his ACL surgery.

If a player rehabs and was promised a 5th year, play him some. He is certainly a MAC caliber player.
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(12-24-2019 12:03 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Wouldn't expect much from any 3rd/4th string Big 10 transfers. Remember our last '4 star' OL Wolverine transfer? Right, nobody does.

Better to go get a Juco stud that is immediately eligible, and has current playing time and film.

I agree with you, but at the same time, don't write him off! You never know! His offers were all G5 schools for the most part minus MSU so he shouldnt be looked upon as a savior, but if he came in and produced, I would not be mad!
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