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It's a purely hypothetical argument, but could a Cronin coached team of recent vintage have withstood that offensive onslaught @ Temple last night and prevailed? Cronin accomplished much here and I respect that. But it was time for a "reset" and I'm excited about the new approach.

Who knows what happens the rest of this season? And who on next year's team does what Cumberland did in the closing minutes last night? Questions we just can't answer. But we've had some very enjoyable victories to watch so far--Tennessee, UCONN and last night's gritty performance included. At this point, I have confidence that Brannen will build the team he needs to succeed at the level we expect.
 
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(01-23-2020 08:23 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  I
it's a purely hypothetical argument, but could a Cronin coached team of recent vintage have withstood that offensive onslaught @ Temple last night and prevailed? Cronin accomplished much here and I respect that. But it was time for a "reset" and I'm excited about the new approach.

Who knows what happens the rest of this season? And who on next year's team does what Cumberland did in the closing minutes last night? Questions we just can't answer. But we've had some very enjoyable victories to watch so far--Tennessee, UCONN and last night's gritty performance included. At this point, I have confidence that Brannen will build the team he needs to succeed at the level we expect.

im going to say no. And my reasoning is simple. Teams who get hot from 3 beat micks teams. Nearly everytime
 
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(01-23-2020 08:37 AM)coachpipe Wrote:  
(01-23-2020 08:23 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  I
it's a purely hypothetical argument, but could a Cronin coached team of recent vintage have withstood that offensive onslaught @ Temple last night and prevailed? Cronin accomplished much here and I respect that. But it was time for a "reset" and I'm excited about the new approach.

Who knows what happens the rest of this season? And who on next year's team does what Cumberland did in the closing minutes last night? Questions we just can't answer. But we've had some very enjoyable victories to watch so far--Tennessee, UCONN and last night's gritty performance included. At this point, I have confidence that Brannen will build the team he needs to succeed at the level we expect.

im going to say no. And my reasoning is simple. Teams who get hot from 3 beat micks teams. Nearly everytime

I’d tend to agree. I don’t think there’s any chance they would have given up 82 but there were a lot of games like this under him that ended up in losses.
 
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(01-23-2020 08:50 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  
(01-23-2020 08:37 AM)coachpipe Wrote:  
(01-23-2020 08:23 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  I
it's a purely hypothetical argument, but could a Cronin coached team of recent vintage have withstood that offensive onslaught @ Temple last night and prevailed? Cronin accomplished much here and I respect that. But it was time for a "reset" and I'm excited about the new approach.

Who knows what happens the rest of this season? And who on next year's team does what Cumberland did in the closing minutes last night? Questions we just can't answer. But we've had some very enjoyable victories to watch so far--Tennessee, UCONN and last night's gritty performance included. At this point, I have confidence that Brannen will build the team he needs to succeed at the level we expect.

im going to say no. And my reasoning is simple. Teams who get hot from 3 beat micks teams. Nearly everytime

I’d tend to agree. I don’t think there’s any chance they would have given up 82 but there were a lot of games like this under him that ended up in losses.


It's much more difficult to beat a team thats on fire for 3/4 of the game in a 55 possession game vs a 70 possession game.

Temple was taking some awful shots but hitting all of them. They kept shooting them but they quit falling the last 10 minutes or whatever it was.
 
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(01-23-2020 09:04 AM)CallMeSlim Wrote:  
(01-23-2020 08:50 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  
(01-23-2020 08:37 AM)coachpipe Wrote:  
(01-23-2020 08:23 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  I
it's a purely hypothetical argument, but could a Cronin coached team of recent vintage have withstood that offensive onslaught @ Temple last night and prevailed? Cronin accomplished much here and I respect that. But it was time for a "reset" and I'm excited about the new approach.

Who knows what happens the rest of this season? And who on next year's team does what Cumberland did in the closing minutes last night? Questions we just can't answer. But we've had some very enjoyable victories to watch so far--Tennessee, UCONN and last night's gritty performance included. At this point, I have confidence that Brannen will build the team he needs to succeed at the level we expect.

im going to say no. And my reasoning is simple. Teams who get hot from 3 beat micks teams. Nearly everytime

I’d tend to agree. I don’t think there’s any chance they would have given up 82 but there were a lot of games like this under him that ended up in losses.


It's much more difficult to beat a team thats on fire for 3/4 of the game in a 55 possession game vs a 70 possession game.

Temple was taking some awful shots but hitting all of them. They kept shooting them but they quit falling the last 10 minutes or whatever it was.

The most impressive thing last night, and a big difference in my opinion from the previous regime... Every time Temple would go down and hit a shot it seemed like UC was able to run the court and answer quickly. Often times we were hitting a layup right after Temple would hit a big 3, and while it allowed Temple to get back into the game, and get a lead it never felt like they were able to take control and get momentum.

So often under Mick, it felt like a hot-shooting team would build a lead that felt insurmountable because we took a lot of time and never had an answer.
 
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Fire Brannen after one season? Remember me?

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Even though they aren't winning as much as I'd like, I'm enjoying watching the games much more this year. The style of play is just more enjoyable to watch. I think its a great hire - next year they'll be much better and they'll be good as long as Brannen is at UC.
 
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(01-23-2020 06:51 PM)Dont tase me bro Wrote:  Even though they aren't winning as much as I'd like, I'm enjoying watching the games much more this year. The style of play is just more enjoyable to watch. I think its a great hire - next year they'll be much better and they'll be good as long as Brannen is at UC.

Losing Cumberland and Tre is going to be huge. Maybe not Tre as much with Diarra coming into his own but we don't have anyone ready to take Cumberlands place. William's seemed to be taking strides early in the season but has fallen back to his norm and not sure where we're going to get what Cumberland gives us.
 
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Although we have had some frustrating loses this year, I agree it has been a much more enjoyable season to watch. Plenty of upside with CJB's style of ball!
 
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(01-24-2020 12:25 AM)gerhard911 Wrote:  Although we have had some frustrating loses this year, I agree it has been a much more enjoyable season to watch. Plenty of upside with CJB's style of ball!

12-7 is never more enjoyable than 16-3....period.

I'm not knocking Brannen (yet) cause I think he needs time but I firmly believe Cronin would have had this team at right around 16-3 right now. I just wanna win no matter the style of play.

I'm still excited for the potential to have a winning program with a more enjoyable offense to watch but right now Brannen is not impressing. UC is 61st offensively which is the worst number in the last five years. And their defense isn't making up for it.
 
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(01-24-2020 08:29 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  
(01-24-2020 12:25 AM)gerhard911 Wrote:  Although we have had some frustrating loses this year, I agree it has been a much more enjoyable season to watch. Plenty of upside with CJB's style of ball!

12-7 is never more enjoyable than 16-3....period.

I'm not knocking Brannen (yet) cause I think he needs time but I firmly believe Cronin would have had this team at right around 16-3 right now. I just wanna win no matter the style of play.

I'm still excited for the potential to have a winning program with a more enjoyable offense to watch but right now Brannen is not impressing. UC is 61st offensively which is the worst number in the last five years. And their defense isn't making up for it.

Cronin would not have had this team...so the exercise is moot.
 
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(01-24-2020 08:29 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  
(01-24-2020 12:25 AM)gerhard911 Wrote:  Although we have had some frustrating loses this year, I agree it has been a much more enjoyable season to watch. Plenty of upside with CJB's style of ball!

12-7 is never more enjoyable than 16-3....period.

I'm not knocking Brannen (yet) cause I think he needs time but I firmly believe Cronin would have had this team at right around 16-3 right now. I just wanna win no matter the style of play.

I'm still excited for the potential to have a winning program with a more enjoyable offense to watch but right now Brannen is not impressing. UC is 61st offensively which is the worst number in the last five years. And their defense isn't making up for it.

Disagree this team would be 16-3... no Vogt, no Jaevin, No MAW, No Harvey... we'd have 4 dudes and a bunch of guys who are now not getting significant minutes playing low major ball. MC just did not recruit well enough the past few years.

It is time to move on. JB is the coach and we are playing a different system and recruiting a different type of athlete.
 
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(01-24-2020 08:51 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(01-24-2020 08:29 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  
(01-24-2020 12:25 AM)gerhard911 Wrote:  Although we have had some frustrating loses this year, I agree it has been a much more enjoyable season to watch. Plenty of upside with CJB's style of ball!

12-7 is never more enjoyable than 16-3....period.

I'm not knocking Brannen (yet) cause I think he needs time but I firmly believe Cronin would have had this team at right around 16-3 right now. I just wanna win no matter the style of play.

I'm still excited for the potential to have a winning program with a more enjoyable offense to watch but right now Brannen is not impressing. UC is 61st offensively which is the worst number in the last five years. And their defense isn't making up for it.

Disagree this team would be 16-3... no Vogt, no Jaevin, No MAW, No Harvey... we'd have 4 dudes and a bunch of guys who are now not getting significant minutes playing low major ball. MC just did not recruit well enough the past few years.

It is time to move on. JB is the coach and we are playing a different system and recruiting a different type of athlete.

Particularly if Cumberland struggled with injuries and was ineffective for the first month+.
 
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It's been a bumpy ride so far, to be expected for a new coach in his first year. He looks more comfortable on camera lately talking about the team, which is a good sign. Trying to win over a locker room while you recruit their replacements and try to completely change the style of play is probably a tough sell.
 
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Consider the schedule through the first 19 games compared to last year. Nine home games with one cupcake in Alabama A&M versus 12 homes games with six cupcakes in North Carolina Central, Milwaukee, Western Michigan, Arkansas Pine Bluff, NKU and South Carolina State ......all inferior in my opinion to Drake, Vermont and Colgate.

That schedule with Xavier and Ohio State at home would have been perfect for this years team given the new coach, new system and early injuries to Jarron and Sorolla. Maybe not 16-3 but close to it in my opinion.
 
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(01-24-2020 08:29 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  12-7 is never more enjoyable than 16-3....period.

If 12-7 comes with less yelling, profanity and coach double-talk speak, I will take it.

CJB never giving up on Jarron when he might have had every right to do so. That is coaching. And credit to Jarron for (finally) realizing his coach has his best interests at heart.
 
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I've seen improvement in Brannen throughout the course of the season. He's gotten Cumberland back on good terms and he's willing to sacrifice some principles on both sides of the ball (breaking down the ball motion to let Jarron go ISO, switching to an extended zone vs. Temple) when things aren't going well. The losses to Colgate and Bowling Green hurt, but those were early in the year. At the midway point he gets a B from me.
 
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(01-24-2020 10:56 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  At the midway point he gets a B from me.

Brannen gets a C- from me.

UC was 28-6 last year and won the AAC tournament.

They returned their top 3 scorers.
Cumberland
Williams
Scott

Key players lost
Justin Jenifer - PG
Cane Broome - SG
Nysier Brooks - C

Key Players gained
Mika Adams-Woods & Chris McNeal - PG – net loss (Jenifer had a better Ast:TO ratio and better shooting %)
Jaevin Cumberland – neutral (Broome had a worse shooting % from three, but a little better FT% and a little better Ast:TO)
Chris Vogt – big net gain (Vogt is averaging 14 & 7 while shooting 71%, Brooks averaged 8 & 6 at 53% shooting, blocked shots are even)

So based on that UC should be no worse than last year.
 
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(01-24-2020 12:57 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  
(01-24-2020 10:56 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  At the midway point he gets a B from me.

Brannen gets a C- from me.

UC was 28-6 last year and won the AAC tournament.

They returned their top 3 scorers.
Cumberland
Williams
Scott

Key players lost
Justin Jenifer - PG
Cane Broome - SG
Nysier Brooks - C

Key Players gained
Mika Adams-Woods & Chris McNeal - PG – net loss (Jenifer had a better Ast:TO ratio and better shooting %)
Jaevin Cumberland – neutral (Broome had a worse shooting % from three, but a little better FT% and a little better Ast:TO)
Chris Vogt – big net gain (Vogt is averaging 14 & 7 while shooting 71%, Brooks averaged 8 & 6 at 53% shooting, blocked shots are even)

So based on that UC should be no worse than last year.

Comparing last year's strength of schedule to this year isn't even in the same stratosphere.
 
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