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RE: Is it time for the Sun Belt to raid Conference USA?
(01-08-2020 01:22 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 01:25 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 09:25 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  There is no reason for a single school to jump, and a logical remake of both conf will not happen.

Agreed but would like to see something along these lines:

Conference USA:
South:
FAU
FIU
Troy
USA
Ga So
Ga St

North:
CCU
CLT
ODU
Marshall
App State
MTSU

Sunbelt:
West:
UNT
Rice
UTEP
UTSA
Tex State
La Tech

East:
Ark State
WKU
ULL
ULM
USM
UAB

What's the process for such an alignment to come to fruition?

You'd have to have both conferences and all the schools involved agree to swaps to create better regionally compact conferences. I don't see it happening even though I think it would be better for both conferences.
01-09-2020 10:04 AM
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RE: Is it time for the Sun Belt to raid Conference USA?
(01-09-2020 01:50 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(01-08-2020 03:43 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  The MAC was a great conference but it’s now filled with schools (not all, but most) hemorrhaging students and funding. Located in states losing population to Sun Belt states. Schools like CMU/EMU enrollment decline figures are eye opening.

It’s a sinking ship and the strong would be wise to get out before it goes the way of the WAC.

My guess is it would require main campus enrollment to slip below 12,500 at one of the MAC schools for them to cry uncle and either drop FB or move down to Division II.

NIU is down to 15,500 main campus and is the smallest school in the MAC at the moment. A 10 year slide in numbers. They would be tough to replace if they fell off a cliff.

https://www.niu.edu/enrollment-plan/_pdf...t-plan.pdf

Yes NIU is another. In fact for 2019 they’ve dropped to 16,600. Down almost 10k students in a decade. Unbelievable.

https://www.daily-chronicle.com/2019/09/...s/arv2819/

Virtually every school in the conference has had an insane decline in enrollment since about 2005.

Like I said, when I think about the MAC in 2000, it was a healthy, strong, traditional conference. Now, for me, it’s synonymous with old empty stadiums on old empty campuses. That sucks but there’s a reality there and I’ll be curious to see who bites the bullet first and either goes FCS or jumps ship.
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01-09-2020 10:57 AM
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RE: Is it time for the Sun Belt to raid Conference USA?
Take away FBS football and enrollment declines further.

I would've never attended NIU if not for FBS football. There are many people like that.

The school needs FBS identity because DeKalb is a terrible location and being a directional there is no intrinsic academic draw.
01-09-2020 12:16 PM
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RE: Is it time for the Sun Belt to raid Conference USA?
(01-09-2020 12:16 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Take away FBS football and enrollment declines further.

I would've never attended NIU if not for FBS football. There are many people like that.

The school needs FBS identity because DeKalb is a terrible location and being a directional there is no intrinsic academic draw.

Someone mentioned this elsewhere, but I’m curious of your thoughts on this as an NIU grad. I’m not interested in dogging NIU, I have a ton of respect for your program and your great run to a BCS bowl.

Say the MAC “dropped” to FCS. This wouldn’t effect basketball or other Olympic sports. The MAC could negotiate a new tv deal to get all their games back to Saturday’s and it immediately becomes the premier FCS conference. Geographically you’d build an immediate rivalry with the Missouri Valley Conference and get to see teams like NDSU, JMU and other premier OOC FCS opponents. Additionally the financial strain burden would likely decrease.

Is that less appealing than the current trajectory of the MAC?
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