Chip Lindsey has already made his first offseason move.

https://footballscoop.com/strength-scoop/

Troy has apparently fired SaJason Finley, the Strength & Condition coach. This dude was a horrible hire from the get go, and supposedly wasn't originally hired by Chip Lindsey, but instead the previous AD. Finley apparently was also a problem when it came to the culture of the program.

Hopefully Lindsey can find a much better person to fill the role. If we could lure Rafael Horton away from WVU, that'd be a slam dunk. He did an amazing job while he was at Troy with Neal Brown.

USM fans were celebrating when he was fired there last year. I read he spent some time at Ark St some years ago.

(12-11-2019 03:20 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Chip Lindsey has already made his first offseason move.

https://footballscoop.com/strength-scoop/

Troy has apparently fired SaJason Finley, the Strength & Condition coach. This dude was a horrible hire from the get go, and supposedly wasn't originally hired by Chip Lindsey, but instead the previous AD. Finley apparently was also a problem when it came to the culture of the program.

Hopefully Lindsey can find a much better person to fill the role. If we could lure Rafael Horton away from WVU, that'd be a slam dunk. He did an amazing job while he was at Troy with Neal Brown.

I thought his 1st moves would be the DC(s)?

I'm not a big fan of Chip anyway. He doesn't have the swag & confidence of Neal Brown. The players don't respond to him in the same manner as w/Coach Neal. They should have done a coaching search versus just hiring him because he was at AU.

Just Say'n

(12-11-2019 04:32 PM)T2003 Wrote:  USM fans were celebrating when he was fired there last year. I read he spent some time at Ark St some years ago.

We were very happy with the change. It takes more than a year to totally change but we saw marked improvement this year.

I didnt realize he was there. That can explain alot of Oline difficulties. Ours was horrible under him.

From footballscoop.com. Over a week old with no update, so I'm not too sure this will be the case, but it is interesting. He was Louisiana's strength coach when they were doing pretty well with Mark Hudspeth.

Army West Point: Per source, Rusty Whitt is leaving his post as the assistant strength and conditioning coach at Army to become the Director of Strength and conditioning at Troy. Prior to joining the Army staff, Whitt was the head strength coach at Texas Tech and UL-Lafayette.

https://footballscoop.com/strength-scoop...r-21-2019/

So you are hiring the strength coach that would yell at fans on road games.. Same one the would head butt players with helmets on. We liked to call him butt head. Must be a pretty good coach cause I am not sure he could do anything else. Oh and please don't say "he would whupp you easy enough". I am 65 so yeah he would. Doesn't change the fact he is a butt head.

Lindsey should fire himself. The Sun Belt needed a strong Troy and Georgia Southern this year to really elevate the conference and they failed in spectacular fashion. If App falters for a season is there another team that can carry the burden of elevating the perception of the conference? Or one that could be reliably pointed to? Louisiana was close and had they missed App in scheduling (not sure if this is a permanent cross division match-up) would've been ranked heading into the conference championship at 11-1.

(12-30-2019 10:42 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  (not sure if this is a permanent cross division match-up)

There is only 1. Troy vs. USA.

(12-30-2019 10:57 AM)_x_ Wrote:  

(12-30-2019 10:42 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  (not sure if this is a permanent cross division match-up)

There is only 1. Troy vs. USA.

It's time for the Sun Belt, so long as Napier is there, to cease scheduling App and Louisiana. Not that each team can be expected to perform the way that they did in 2019, but the scheduling of these two teams blocked a Top 25 match-up in the Sun Belt Championship Game only 5 years after realignment.

Makes me wish the old commissioner was back. If anyone wants to do a Case Study on the 5 to 10 year results of realignment and who won - out of the 10 conferences - I believe the Sun Belt would be shown to have been the clear winner of G5 and most likely out of all 10.

Getting off-topic here.

Can Troy fans expect Lindsey to be fired mid-season if Troy doesn't improve at all?

(12-29-2019 09:09 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  So you are hiring the strength coach that would yell at fans on road games.. Same one the would head butt players with helmets on. We liked to call him butt head. Must be a pretty good coach cause I am not sure he could do anything else. Oh and please don't say "he would whupp you easy enough". I am 65 so yeah he would. Doesn't change the fact he is a butt head.

That butt head also served in the special forces for 5.5 years and was the head S&C coach at Texas Tech before he wasn't retained following staff turnover at the end of 2018. I know it may ruffle some sensitive fan's feathers, but Troy can do worse than hiring Rusty Whitt.

(12-30-2019 11:03 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-30-2019 10:57 AM)_x_ Wrote:  

(12-30-2019 10:42 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  (not sure if this is a permanent cross division match-up)

There is only 1. Troy vs. USA.

It's time for the Sun Belt, so long as Napier is there, to cease scheduling App and Louisiana. Not that each team can be expected to perform the way that they did in 2019, but the scheduling of these two teams blocked a Top 25 match-up in the Sun Belt Championship Game only 5 years after realignment.

Makes me wish the old commissioner was back. If anyone wants to do a Case Study on the 5 to 10 year results of realignment and who won - out of the 10 conferences - I believe the Sun Belt would be shown to have been the clear winner of G5 and most likely out of all 10.

Getting off-topic here.

Can Troy fans expect Lindsey to be fired mid-season if Troy doesn't improve at all?

I'm not in favor of excluding any team (Western division) from the App Schedule just because they've done well in the past. SBC teams need SOS, so I don't see that being a positive step. I'm not wild about playing the same team twice in the same year (in this case two consecutive years) but that's how things work out sometimes. Nobody could have known that stAte was going to have a rash of injuries. That was just crazy...and Troy had a bunch also.

Let's just let Troy manage their own program. No reason for fans of other teams to be calling for their coach's job...especially mid season.

Ya I don't like the idea of doing year-to-year scheduling based on specific program strengths either.

Make it as fair as possible for every team in the league by scheduling as consistently as possible for all 10 teams. That means you should only be missing each cross-division team once every 5 years on average.

(12-30-2019 12:18 PM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(12-29-2019 09:09 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  So you are hiring the strength coach that would yell at fans on road games.. Same one the would head butt players with helmets on. We liked to call him butt head. Must be a pretty good coach cause I am not sure he could do anything else. Oh and please don't say "he would whupp you easy enough". I am 65 so yeah he would. Doesn't change the fact he is a butt head.

That butt head also served in the special forces for 5.5 years and was the head S&C coach at Texas Tech before he wasn't retained following staff turnover at the end of 2018. I know it may ruffle some sensitive fan's feathers, but Troy can do worse than hiring Rusty Whitt.

I knew he was military. I appreciate him for that. After listening to how berated a fan in the stands he is still a butt head.

(12-30-2019 01:00 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Ya I don't like the idea of doing year-to-year scheduling based on specific program strengths either.

Make it as fair as possible for every team in the league by scheduling as consistently as possible for all 10 teams. That means you should only be missing each cross-division team once every 5 years on average.

I don't think App has missed Louisiana yet, could be wrong. The point was to say that if they haven't missed each other, now would be a great time to do it. Louisiana has a favorable out of conference schedule next season and could be the next team to knock down that Top 25 door.

(12-30-2019 10:42 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  Lindsey should fire himself. The Sun Belt needed a strong Troy and Georgia Southern this year to really elevate the conference and they failed in spectacular fashion. If App falters for a season is there another team that can carry the burden of elevating the perception of the conference? Or one that could be reliably pointed to? Louisiana was close and had they missed App in scheduling (not sure if this is a permanent cross division match-up) would've been ranked heading into the conference championship at 11-1.

Agreed! Coach Chump, I mean Coach Chip, took a (10+ win) team that had excellent recruiting classes for the last 2 years & gave us crap!! TROY also had a decent amount of returning starters as well. Chip has no swag, capable vision, organization or a since of leadership.

Coach Neal Brown & Vic Koenning would have taken this years same TROY team to an 8 to 9 win regular season. Those two guys are real excellent “coaches!”

Not a fan at ALL of Chip & his coordinators. Chip should be in the background as an OC...not the foreground as HC. Mark it down....TROY will be a mediocre 5-7 to 7-5 team during his tenure there. And because TROY is a G5 program, they’ll put up with it as long as we go ‘bowling’ 40% of the time

My oh my how the mighty Trojans have fallen ??

(12-30-2019 11:03 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  Can Troy fans expect Lindsey to be fired mid-season if Troy doesn't improve at all?

Can't afford the buyout. He'll be there until his contract expires or until someone else offers him a job. But at least now he knows it takes actual effort to be successful and that the players can't coach themselves.

I'm all for firing him midseason if we start with a bunch of losses next year, though. I'd have fired him midseason this year...

(12-30-2019 11:03 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-30-2019 10:57 AM)_x_ Wrote:  

(12-30-2019 10:42 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  (not sure if this is a permanent cross division match-up)

There is only 1. Troy vs. USA.

It's time for the Sun Belt, so long as Napier is there, to cease scheduling App and Louisiana. Not that each team can be expected to perform the way that they did in 2019, but the scheduling of these two teams blocked a Top 25 match-up in the Sun Belt Championship Game only 5 years after realignment.

Makes me wish the old commissioner was back. If anyone wants to do a Case Study on the 5 to 10 year results of realignment and who won - out of the 10 conferences - I believe the Sun Belt would be shown to have been the clear winner of G5 and most likely out of all 10.

Getting off-topic here.

Can Troy fans expect Lindsey to be fired mid-season if Troy doesn't improve at all?

What? This is so arrogant and dumb. You don’t schedule to miss teams because you think they might be good. My goodness, we’ve heard it all on here.

If Troy has a losing season again, I do believe Lindsey will be fired, but it wouldn't be until season's end. I don't see AD Brent Jones letting the football program slide into oblivion.