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Delaney: 16 team conferences? 8 team playoff?
Big Ten commish Jim Delany on if we’ll ever see a 16-team FBS conference:
“I don’t think it’s outside the realm (of possibility)”
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Big Ten commish Jim Delany if he would favor an 8-team
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Way to commit!
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So Jim, what are those circumstances? And who are you thinking about adding?

Does their name rhyme with Motor Flame?
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For the B1G, SEC or even the ACC 16 could make a lot of sense if the sum of the parts were to equal a bigger whole.
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(12-11-2019 03:28 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  For the B1G, SEC or even the ACC 16 could make a lot of sense if the sum of the parts were to equal a bigger whole.

And that is the rub - what schools bring $60 or Million/year in value?
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(12-11-2019 03:12 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  So Jim, what are those circumstances? And who are you thinking about adding?

Does their name rhyme with Motor Flame?

That ship sailed long ago. Check back in 15 years when ACC GOR expire. Doubt it will be any different then.
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RE: Delaney: 16 team conferences? 8 team playoff?
I think the comment about the 8-team playoff is significantly more instructive than the one about 16 team conferences.

The Big Ten (and pretty much every other conference, for that matter) has always stated that they could expand for the "right fit" (e.g. they're not turning down Notre Dame, Texas, etc.). Nothing really changed based on Delany's comment there.

However, the Big Ten clearly pushed back on expanding the playoffs previously. Delany essentially said "Hell no!" to a 4-team playoff proposal up until the last moment and, after the CFP was instituted, his on-the-record comments have always been that they like the current 4-team system as-is. Whether it's Delany's personal opinion or if he's delivering the message that he's received from the Big Ten university presidents, he doesn't say anything about key issues such as the playoff system lightly. So, if the Big Ten says that they're open to an 8-team playoff, then that's a big deal because they have generally been the biggest obstacle to playoff expansion for decades.
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(12-11-2019 04:28 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  I think the comment about the 8-team playoff is significantly more instructive than the one about 16 team conferences.

The Big Ten (and pretty much every other conference, for that matter) has always stated that they could expand for the "right fit" (e.g. they're not turning down Notre Dame, Texas, etc.). Nothing really changed based on Delany's comment there.

However, the Big Ten clearly pushed back on expanding the playoffs previously. Delany essentially said "Hell no!" to a 4-team playoff proposal up until the last moment and, after the CFP was instituted, his on-the-record comments have always been that they like the current 4-team system as-is. Whether it's Delany's personal opinion or if he's delivering the message that he's received from the Big Ten university presidents, he doesn't say anything about key issues such as the playoff system lightly. So, if the Big Ten says that they're open to an 8-team playoff, then that's a big deal because they have generally been the biggest obstacle to playoff expansion for decades.


I wonder how much the Pac-12 is pushing the B1G to support them, since the Pac is continually left out of the playoffs.
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I think going to 8 team playoff will happen sooner than people think. . 30 years ago, we might have a #1 Big 8 Oklahoma or Nebraska vs # 2 indy Penn St/ Miami in the Orange Bowl. If not that, it might be #1 OU playing in the Orange Bowl and everyone keeping an eye on # 2 Alabama in the Sugar Bowl and #3 Ohio St in the Rose Bowl all on NYD. Then the writers would vote for a champion based on the results. They said that a playoff would never happen.

FFWD and we get the BCS, which was better but they still told us a playoff would never happen. Now, we have a 4 team playoff and they say 8 isn't possible. BS. Its all about $$ and if they can make more with 8 teams, they will.
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A Power 5 AD in New York this week said a specific 8-team playoff model is circulating around the CFB world that would incorporate bowls, including a bowl-sponsored national championship game.

The model:
- 5 auto bids for P5 champs
- 2 at-large
- 1 Group of 5
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RE: Delaney: 16 team conferences? 8 team playoff?
(12-11-2019 04:58 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(12-11-2019 04:28 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  I think the comment about the 8-team playoff is significantly more instructive than the one about 16 team conferences.

The Big Ten (and pretty much every other conference, for that matter) has always stated that they could expand for the "right fit" (e.g. they're not turning down Notre Dame, Texas, etc.). Nothing really changed based on Delany's comment there.

However, the Big Ten clearly pushed back on expanding the playoffs previously. Delany essentially said "Hell no!" to a 4-team playoff proposal up until the last moment and, after the CFP was instituted, his on-the-record comments have always been that they like the current 4-team system as-is. Whether it's Delany's personal opinion or if he's delivering the message that he's received from the Big Ten university presidents, he doesn't say anything about key issues such as the playoff system lightly. So, if the Big Ten says that they're open to an 8-team playoff, then that's a big deal because they have generally been the biggest obstacle to playoff expansion for decades.


I wonder how much the Pac-12 is pushing the B1G to support them, since the Pac is continually left out of the playoffs.

Probably quite a bit. Also the SEC as they would have teams for the at-large berth.
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(12-11-2019 05:18 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Ross Dellenger

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A Power 5 AD in New York this week said a specific 8-team playoff model is circulating around the CFB world that would incorporate bowls, including a bowl-sponsored national championship game.

The model:
- 5 auto bids for P5 champs
- 2 at-large
- 1 Group of 5


Nice. Sounds like a lot of P5 AD's have been lurking and reading my CFP Format thread from the other day.

You're welcome guys 03-wink
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(12-11-2019 05:18 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Ross Dellenger

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A Power 5 AD in New York this week said a specific 8-team playoff model is circulating around the CFB world that would incorporate bowls, including a bowl-sponsored national championship game.

The model:
- 5 auto bids for P5 champs
- 2 at-large
- 1 Group of 5

so pretty much the obvious model that everyone has been clamoring for. Its a shame we couldn't see this in action when UCF had their run. Would have really been interesting to see how it would have played out that year.
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(12-11-2019 05:18 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Ross Dellenger

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A Power 5 AD in New York this week said a specific 8-team playoff model is circulating around the CFB world that would incorporate bowls, including a bowl-sponsored national championship game.

The model:
- 5 auto bids for P5 champs
- 2 at-large
- 1 Group of 5

That should put the end to the ND to the ACC talk(it won't, it should though).
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(12-11-2019 05:18 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Ross Dellenger

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A Power 5 AD in New York this week said a specific 8-team playoff model is circulating around the CFB world that would incorporate bowls, including a bowl-sponsored national championship game.

The model:
- 5 auto bids for P5 champs
- 2 at-large
- 1 Group of 5

That should put the end to the ND to the ACC talk(it won't, it should though).

I actually think if they were to adopt this format then it would FORCE Notre Dame to join the ACC. Otherwise, they are at a disadvantage each year. What's tougher for Notre Dame? Winning the ACC or finishing the regular season ranked in the T8? I would think finishing in the T8 would be harder.
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(12-11-2019 05:36 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(12-11-2019 05:27 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  
(12-11-2019 05:18 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Ross Dellenger

@RossDellenger
A Power 5 AD in New York this week said a specific 8-team playoff model is circulating around the CFB world that would incorporate bowls, including a bowl-sponsored national championship game.

The model:
- 5 auto bids for P5 champs
- 2 at-large
- 1 Group of 5

That should put the end to the ND to the ACC talk(it won't, it should though).

I actually think if they were to adopt this format then it would FORCE Notre Dame to join the ACC. Otherwise, they are at a disadvantage each year. What's tougher for Notre Dame? Winning the ACC or finishing the regular season ranked in the T8? I would think finishing in the T8 would be harder.
Doesn't matter. Do we have access? If yes, then we're good.
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(12-11-2019 05:39 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  
(12-11-2019 05:36 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(12-11-2019 05:27 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  
(12-11-2019 05:18 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Ross Dellenger

@RossDellenger
A Power 5 AD in New York this week said a specific 8-team playoff model is circulating around the CFB world that would incorporate bowls, including a bowl-sponsored national championship game.

The model:
- 5 auto bids for P5 champs
- 2 at-large
- 1 Group of 5

That should put the end to the ND to the ACC talk(it won't, it should though).

I actually think if they were to adopt this format then it would FORCE Notre Dame to join the ACC. Otherwise, they are at a disadvantage each year. What's tougher for Notre Dame? Winning the ACC or finishing the regular season ranked in the T8? I would think finishing in the T8 would be harder.
Doesn't matter. Do we have access? If yes, then we're good.

Yeah, with 2 at large spots ND has access. So I think you’d be semi-Indy for quite some time.
And if that setup does happen, don’t see any expansion of conferences going to 16.
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(12-11-2019 05:18 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Ross Dellenger

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A Power 5 AD in New York this week said a specific 8-team playoff model is circulating around the CFB world that would incorporate bowls, including a bowl-sponsored national championship game.

The model:
- 5 auto bids for P5 champs
- 2 at-large
- 1 Group of 5


There is a problem with that on who the G5 school is the best. Look at TCU and Boise State with no loss one year. They both were the champs of MWC/WAC at the time. So both got invited to the Feista Bowl with the Broncos winning the game. It was a great game which was better than a 11-1 P5 champ beating up a 6-6 P5 loser. This year? If it is an 8 team playoff? Both Memphis and Boise State should go. Boise State have the better record by not losing in conference. The P5 Boise beat is 6-6 Florida State while Memphis beat a 4-8 Ole Miss.
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(12-11-2019 05:39 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  
(12-11-2019 05:36 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(12-11-2019 05:27 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  
(12-11-2019 05:18 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Ross Dellenger

@RossDellenger
A Power 5 AD in New York this week said a specific 8-team playoff model is circulating around the CFB world that would incorporate bowls, including a bowl-sponsored national championship game.

The model:
- 5 auto bids for P5 champs
- 2 at-large
- 1 Group of 5

That should put the end to the ND to the ACC talk(it won't, it should though).

I actually think if they were to adopt this format then it would FORCE Notre Dame to join the ACC. Otherwise, they are at a disadvantage each year. What's tougher for Notre Dame? Winning the ACC or finishing the regular season ranked in the T8? I would think finishing in the T8 would be harder.
Doesn't matter. Do we have access? If yes, then we're good.

Correct me if I'm wrong but yes, it would absolutely matter.

Under this proposed format, if Notre Dame joins the ACC and wins the conference then it doesn't matter where they finish in the rankings...they are in the CFP regardless.

If Notre Dame stays independent and finishes ranked in the T8, that doesn't guarantee they are in the CFP.

If this CFP Format was adopted, the first thing I would do (if I was ND) was join a conference STAT!
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(12-11-2019 05:36 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(12-11-2019 05:27 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  
(12-11-2019 05:18 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Ross Dellenger

@RossDellenger
A Power 5 AD in New York this week said a specific 8-team playoff model is circulating around the CFB world that would incorporate bowls, including a bowl-sponsored national championship game.

The model:
- 5 auto bids for P5 champs
- 2 at-large
- 1 Group of 5

That should put the end to the ND to the ACC talk(it won't, it should though).

I actually think if they were to adopt this format then it would FORCE Notre Dame to join the ACC. Otherwise, they are at a disadvantage each year. What's tougher for Notre Dame? Winning the ACC or finishing the regular season ranked in the T8? I would think finishing in the T8 would be harder.

An odd statement to make considering the ACC champion has been ranked in the top 8 every year since 2011 non inclusive.
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