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KSU Men’s Basketball - redshirts?
Hey all, a few of my friends and I were talking the other day, after reading Allen Moffs article that he wrote a few days ago on Hernandez.

I completely agree with redshirting Hernandez with the log jam in the backcourt, as he and Nuga will get a lot of minutes next season. What we can’t understand, is why aren’t Bainbridge and/or Bennett being redshirted? Pippen, Whittington, Beck, & Castillo as well as Williamson can all play down low and that is a 4-5 player rotation. Bennett and Bainbridge can both use a year in the weight room/conditioning as well as skill development, redshirting this season and then ready to step in next season with the graduation of Whittington & Williamson.

Anybody know why Bainbridge or Bennett aren’t redshirting for the exact reason that Hernandez is?

Williams, Williamson, Whittington, Santiago, Beck, Peterson, Castillo, Roberts, Pippen, & Simons is a 10 man, flexible rotation, which should be plenty for non-conference and MAC play. Bennett & Bainbridge aren’t playing huge minutes, so it seems like a waste when they have 5 seniors graduating.

Is the redshirt rule still 25% of games played or less they can still redshirt?
12-10-2019 10:30 AM
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great question and I don't get it either. But i'd suspect they were concerned about Danny's knees preseason so out of necessity they needed depth so they didn't redshirt Bennett or Bainbridge from the beginning. Remember CJ was also hurt at beginning of year.

I don't believe basketball has a % rule unless its an injury so unless they get hurt they aren't redshirt eligible. So cough cough guys don't your knees and back hurt...
12-10-2019 10:38 AM
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It is only in football that you can play some games and still get a non-injury redshirt. I suppose someone in the media should just ask Senderoff. I would assume either he thinks he may need those two bigs during the season, or neither wanted to redshirt. MOST coaches won't redshirt a player unless that player agrees.
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Hey ksu315, that's right there were some questions on both CJ & Danny. Looks like college football changed the redshirt rule to allow players to play in 4 games or less and still redshirt, but men's & women's basketball hasn't changed their redshirt rules.

Here is the NCAA Men's Basketball redshirt rule from the "google machine": Teams may designate a player as a "redshirt"; allowing a non-competing player an opportunity to save a year of eligibility to be used at a later time. The player may not compete at any time during his redshirt season or he risks losing the designation and a year of eligibility.

**Redshirt Definition
According to the NCAA, the term "redshirt"; means an athlete is not participating in competition for an entire academic year, but wishes to retain a year of eligibility for competition.

A qualifying NCAA athlete who has met all academic requirements prior to entering college for her freshman year has four years of eligibility for competition, regardless of what academic year she may be a part of during competition.

For example, should an athlete redshirt her freshman year, she would have four years of competition eligibility from her sophomore year on. This particular athlete may be a sophomore academically, but for competition purposes will be referred to as a "redshirt freshman".

**Redshirt Rules
For an athlete to receive a standard redshirt, the NCAA requires that player not be involved in any competition for the year he is redshirted. Any amount of competition time, even 1 minute on a basketball court during a regular season game, for example, counts as a season of eligibility.

Redshirted athletes are allowed to travel, practice and even dress for competition for their team during their redshirt season, but the minute they step on the playing field, they lose their redshirt status and use a season of eligibility.

**Medical Hardship Exemption
The NCAA allows a seriously injured athlete to extend her eligibility period through a medical hardship exemption, commonly referred to by media outlets as a "medical redshirt" though the NCAA does not use this terminology.

An athlete can qualify for this exemption if she has a documented, incapacitating injury or illness that occurred in the first half of the basketball season and the student-athlete has not participated in more than two contests or dates of competition or 20 percent of her team's scheduled contests, whichever number is greater.
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(12-10-2019 11:02 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  It is only in football that you can play some games and still get a non-injury redshirt. I suppose someone in the media should just ask Senderoff. I would assume either he thinks he may need those two bigs during the season, or neither wanted to redshirt. MOST coaches won't redshirt a player unless that player agrees.

I'm always amazed at how the NCAA bends the rules backwards and forwards for football (redshirts, blue shirts, gray shirts) plus can play four games in a season and still maintain freshman eligibility.

By using these rules a player could be a scholarship athlete for 6-1/2 years for football. -- Example: FB freshman arrives in January (1st semester) play spring ball, stay for summer (2nd semester), preseason FB, play four games in the fall (third semester), now winter semester (No. 4) and another spring ball, summer semester (No. 5) and finally a freshman that fall (six semesters).

A FB player - taking care of his scholarship business - could easily be an academic junior with 18 months of both physical development (can you say JOE BURROUGH) - not to mention four FREE games of experience - by the time his 'freshman' FB clock begins.

Basketball only has the redshirt rule ...

What makes this amazing is ... football brings no $$$ into the NCAA coffers. Bowl games and championship games send nothing to the NCAA.

NCAA $$$ almost exclusively comes from NCAA Tournament, but the powers that be don't give their cash cow any of the benefits of football.

It's a joke ... and the joke is on 'us' the midmajors that are the backbone of the NCAA.
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12-10-2019 12:08 PM
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You are right, Cleveland, the basketball tournament is by far the greatest source of NCAA revenue, yet it seems like football coaches get more of what they want then in any other sport.
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My guess, Sendy didn't want the potential of going into next year with Beck and Castillo as the only bigs he's seen play in a game. Pippen's knee problems probably contributed as did Pippen and Whittington's foul plagued past. I also would've liked to see one of them redshirt, but without a clear cut third big, I understand wanting all hands on deck.
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