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Don't know, or remember, if anyone knew this. But I heard from a very reliable source that Jerry Stackhouse was interested in this coaching job. Sounds like he wasn't even considered. He is now HC at Vanderbilt.
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I know you have some close connections within the program, but this one is a stretch for me to believe.
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I heard rumors about him being interested in the ECU job 2 years ago. He has the best recruiting connections for this part of the state. He could've really built something nice... However, he also got NBA HC consideration so it would be surprising if he wanted to UNCW job. I've always heard Wes Miller was interested in the job too.
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Have we not learned we need to get away from the UNC connections? Asking for a friend :)
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(12-09-2019 10:53 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I heard rumors about him being interested in the ECU job 2 years ago. He has the best recruiting connections for this part of the state. He could've really built something nice... However, he also got NBA HC consideration so it would be surprising if he wanted to UNCW job. I've always heard Wes Miller was interested in the job too.

He was interested in both the ECU and UNCW jobs. ECU because it's close to home. UNCW because he likes the ocean and boating. And I'd put money on this.
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(12-09-2019 10:53 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I heard rumors about him being interested in the ECU job 2 years ago. He has the best recruiting connections for this part of the state. He could've really built something nice... However, he also got NBA HC consideration so it would be surprising if he wanted to UNCW job. I've always heard Wes Miller was interested in the job too.

That's cool, but I'd be willing to bet that thought process as changed. With the current state of affairs, UNCW would be a lateral at best and likely a step down for a coach that is on the verge of likely getting some serious P5 coaching considerations/offers.
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(12-09-2019 12:52 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 10:53 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I heard rumors about him being interested in the ECU job 2 years ago. He has the best recruiting connections for this part of the state. He could've really built something nice... However, he also got NBA HC consideration so it would be surprising if he wanted to UNCW job. I've always heard Wes Miller was interested in the job too.

That's cool, but I'd be willing to bet that thought process as changed. With the current state of affairs, UNCW would be a lateral at best and likely a step down for a coach that is on the verge of likely getting some serious P5 coaching considerations/offers.

Sorry, I was still talking about Stackhouse. And I'm sure that ship has sailed.
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(12-09-2019 10:57 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Have we not learned we need to get away from the UNC connections? Asking for a friend :)

If Stack was interested when Keatts left, and we didn't interview him, I would be extremely disappointed in Bass. He was a HC in the g-league, from eastern NC and heavily involved in AAU in the state.
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(12-09-2019 01:52 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 10:57 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Have we not learned we need to get away from the UNC connections? Asking for a friend :)

If Stack was interested when Keatts left, and we didn't interview him, I would be extremely disappointed in Bass. He was a HC in the g-league, from eastern NC and heavily involved in AAU in the state.

I get it that all signs point to green there, every other UNC connection has failed us miserably! of course, at that point we would have one less failed experiment
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(12-09-2019 01:02 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 12:52 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 10:53 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I heard rumors about him being interested in the ECU job 2 years ago. He has the best recruiting connections for this part of the state. He could've really built something nice... However, he also got NBA HC consideration so it would be surprising if he wanted to UNCW job. I've always heard Wes Miller was interested in the job too.

That's cool, but I'd be willing to bet that thought process as changed. With the current state of affairs, UNCW would be a lateral at best and likely a step down for a coach that is on the verge of likely getting some serious P5 coaching considerations/offers.

Sorry, I was still talking about Stackhouse. And I'm sure that ship has sailed.

I agree, The Wes Miller ship has sailed and I believe your Stackhouse information too. Crazy how good the job looked just a few years ago after Keatts. It's still a good job, people in the basketball world know this. Bass will have a lot of viable options again, if the job comes open...
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(12-09-2019 12:52 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 10:53 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I heard rumors about him being interested in the ECU job 2 years ago. He has the best recruiting connections for this part of the state. He could've really built something nice... However, he also got NBA HC consideration so it would be surprising if he wanted to UNCW job. I've always heard Wes Miller was interested in the job too.

That's cool, but I'd be willing to bet that thought process as changed. With the current state of affairs, UNCW would be a lateral at best and likely a step down for a coach that is on the verge of likely getting some serious P5 coaching considerations/offers.

I meant at the time of the CB hire, Wes was interested. Definitely not now, especially if his buddy gets canned.
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(12-09-2019 02:58 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 01:02 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 12:52 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 10:53 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I heard rumors about him being interested in the ECU job 2 years ago. He has the best recruiting connections for this part of the state. He could've really built something nice... However, he also got NBA HC consideration so it would be surprising if he wanted to UNCW job. I've always heard Wes Miller was interested in the job too.

That's cool, but I'd be willing to bet that thought process as changed. With the current state of affairs, UNCW would be a lateral at best and likely a step down for a coach that is on the verge of likely getting some serious P5 coaching considerations/offers.

Sorry, I was still talking about Stackhouse. And I'm sure that ship has sailed.

I agree, The Wes Miller ship has sailed and I believe your Stackhouse information too. Crazy how good the job looked just a few years ago after Keatts. It's still a good job, people in the basketball world know this. Bass will have a lot of viable options again, if the job comes open...
I mean, it's a good job and honestly, if these kids all stayed, it's a very solid core.
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(12-09-2019 01:58 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 01:52 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 10:57 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Have we not learned we need to get away from the UNC connections? Asking for a friend :)

If Stack was interested when Keatts left, and we didn't interview him, I would be extremely disappointed in Bass. He was a HC in the g-league, from eastern NC and heavily involved in AAU in the state.

I get it that all signs point to green there, every other UNC connection has failed us miserably! of course, at that point we would have one less failed experiment

I'm fine if they stay away from Carolina guys as well. Buzz and CB were very different hires, but I think the most worrisome result of the CB hire is how it reflects on Bass. With Keatts, he was fantastically right; CB's tenure so far has been as bad as Keatts' was good. How is Bass as an evaluator? If Stack reached out to UNCW and we weren't interested in having a conversation, I would be frustrated as a fan.
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(12-09-2019 03:10 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 01:58 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 01:52 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 10:57 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Have we not learned we need to get away from the UNC connections? Asking for a friend :)

If Stack was interested when Keatts left, and we didn't interview him, I would be extremely disappointed in Bass. He was a HC in the g-league, from eastern NC and heavily involved in AAU in the state.

I get it that all signs point to green there, every other UNC connection has failed us miserably! of course, at that point we would have one less failed experiment

I'm fine if they stay away from Carolina guys as well. Buzz and CB were very different hires, but I think the most worrisome result of the CB hire is how it reflects on Bass. With Keatts, he was fantastically right; CB's tenure so far has been as bad as Keatts' was good. How is Bass as an evaluator? If Stack reached out to UNCW and we weren't interested in having a conversation, I would be frustrated as a fan.
CB has gotten some good kids here! I'll give credit where it's due. I just hope if we do make a change we don't lose them all
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(12-09-2019 03:12 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 03:10 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 01:58 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 01:52 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 10:57 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Have we not learned we need to get away from the UNC connections? Asking for a friend :)

If Stack was interested when Keatts left, and we didn't interview him, I would be extremely disappointed in Bass. He was a HC in the g-league, from eastern NC and heavily involved in AAU in the state.

I get it that all signs point to green there, every other UNC connection has failed us miserably! of course, at that point we would have one less failed experiment

I'm fine if they stay away from Carolina guys as well. Buzz and CB were very different hires, but I think the most worrisome result of the CB hire is how it reflects on Bass. With Keatts, he was fantastically right; CB's tenure so far has been as bad as Keatts' was good. How is Bass as an evaluator? If Stack reached out to UNCW and we weren't interested in having a conversation, I would be frustrated as a fan.
CB has gotten some good kids here! I'll give credit where it's due. I just hope if we do make a change we don't lose them all

It goes with the territory for the most part unless you hire an assistant that has enough pull to get kids to stay. Keatts left, takes the best player along with him and the entire class decommits. So if you change coaches it might come with some serious rebuild time-again. While I am not happy with how the team looks this year I am not in favor of talking about other coaches this year at all.
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(12-09-2019 03:28 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 03:12 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 03:10 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 01:58 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 01:52 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  If Stack was interested when Keatts left, and we didn't interview him, I would be extremely disappointed in Bass. He was a HC in the g-league, from eastern NC and heavily involved in AAU in the state.

I get it that all signs point to green there, every other UNC connection has failed us miserably! of course, at that point we would have one less failed experiment

I'm fine if they stay away from Carolina guys as well. Buzz and CB were very different hires, but I think the most worrisome result of the CB hire is how it reflects on Bass. With Keatts, he was fantastically right; CB's tenure so far has been as bad as Keatts' was good. How is Bass as an evaluator? If Stack reached out to UNCW and we weren't interested in having a conversation, I would be frustrated as a fan.
CB has gotten some good kids here! I'll give credit where it's due. I just hope if we do make a change we don't lose them all

It goes with the territory for the most part unless you hire an assistant that has enough pull to get kids to stay. Keatts left, takes the best player along with him and the entire class decommits. So if you change coaches it might come with some serious rebuild time-again. While I am not happy with how the team looks this year I am not in favor of talking about other coaches this year at all.

Different situation though. I don't remember the change having that big of an effect from Buzz----> KK
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Keatts was lucky in that regard but not when he left here and cleaned out the closet on his way out of town. He got a good deal here and left it in the crap house.
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(12-09-2019 03:37 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Keatts was lucky in that regard but not when he left here and cleaned out the closet on his way out of town. He got a good deal here and left it in the crap house.

I agree with you there, that is why i think that type of exit would be unlikely.... at least that bad
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(12-09-2019 03:33 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Different situation though. I don't remember the change having that big of an effect from Buzz----> KK

I think Craig Ponder played a major role in that transition. He'd played under Keatts (2010-11 at Hargrave Military) and I imagine he told his teammates to stick around, as he knew how legit Keatts would be.
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When you have a losing program and change coaches, most likely the potential upside is greater than the potential downside, so fallout shouldn't be as bad. Kids may like a coach, but they like winning even more. When you lose a coach because he has been winning, the chance the program will take a step back is huge, that's why handing the keys to an assistant coach is such a good idea. The players already know the coach, they already know what to expect, and same for the incoming recruits. I predicted a huge fallout if we didn't briing on Siddle before we even started interviews for that exact reason. If we continue on the trajectory we are on, I can't imagine the players wouldn't welcome a change at the top. Because of the ease of transfer when a coach leaves, you may have fallout, but they may leave anyhow if you're a bottom feeder.

Never forget. DI payers come from winning programs and that is what they are used to and expect. Getting drubbed on a regular basis is not who they are or why they came to college to play basketball. Winning is everything in their lives and always has been.
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