Although I'm disappointed with the match-up, no disrespect to UAB, I understand the complexity and history of the situation. A very reliable source told me the Belk Bowl tried up until this afternoon to "buyout" App from the NO Bowl to play Va Tech. Yes it would have meant more money for App & the conference. Yes it would have been better for App fans and probably Louisiana fans as well. Both places would have sold more tickets. However, the NO Bowl and it's sponsors have given this conference champion, no matter how good or bad they were, a pretty significant game. That patience has paid off and they have the #20 team in the country coming in. There are 17 bowl games featuring Top 25 teams, 14 for those in the Top 20. Do any of you seriously think for a second the people who run the NO bowl are going to give up that? If you do then you need to go retake Business 101 and pay closer attention.

(12-08-2019 05:59 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:52 PM)T2003 Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:27 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:16 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Guys when these bowl ties ins were established the SBC was on the bottom. The next round of bowl shuffling will tell us a lot of the new pecking order. Three of the last four years the SBC has been the clear 3rd best G5 conference.

Beat UAB.

That’s a good point, and it’s something to look forward too, or maybe not depending what we get, but it still doesn’t help this yr, top 20 team, only one to beat 2, count em, 2 P5 schools, and one is going bowling, against an opponent that will not finish in the top 70 and an FPI ranking of 105. Not saying this game is a lock, they can certainly beat us, but it’s tough to swallow with the kind of season we have had.

I hear ya...but its just how things are right now.. In 2007, Troy finished 8-4 + destroyed Oklahoma State at home (and caused Gundy’s “I am 40, I am a man” speech), played very competitive games vs Arkansas (McFadden and Jones), UGA and Tebow’s Gators... scoring 90 points combined against these SEC teams and we still couldn’t go to a bowl game because FAU beat us, 38-32. As a result, Trojan nation was watching the Washington at Hawai’i game late at night (which was our only hope) rooting for the Huskies to beat Hawai’i but Jake Locker was too young at that time and Colt Brennan won that game for Hawaii...so we didn’t get a bowl invite despite being 8-4 and 6-6 teams were going bowling. Since then I am thankful for every bowl game we can get...

I remember sitting at home one year after finishing 9-3 and spending time in the Top 25 during the season. So yes, I agree that things are much better these days. Still, App State got shafted with its matchup against UAB. They deserved to play in a better bowl game than the New Orleans Bowl.

Dang. Both stories suck. Being the new kid, it’s hard to get what the scene was before we got here. While I’m not too disappointed that we didn’t get a different bowl since we really knew that is what was in the cards other than Cotton. But, I do wish we got a conference champ.

Sounds like Drink is gone. Hope the guys stay focused like last year and put the beat down.

Hey App fans. Please quit saying **** the Sun Belt. We did give you your entry into FBS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/e7...n_the_new/

(12-08-2019 06:55 PM)boonegoon Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:59 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:52 PM)T2003 Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:27 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:16 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Guys when these bowl ties ins were established the SBC was on the bottom. The next round of bowl shuffling will tell us a lot of the new pecking order. Three of the last four years the SBC has been the clear 3rd best G5 conference.

Beat UAB.

That’s a good point, and it’s something to look forward too, or maybe not depending what we get, but it still doesn’t help this yr, top 20 team, only one to beat 2, count em, 2 P5 schools, and one is going bowling, against an opponent that will not finish in the top 70 and an FPI ranking of 105. Not saying this game is a lock, they can certainly beat us, but it’s tough to swallow with the kind of season we have had.

I hear ya...but its just how things are right now.. In 2007, Troy finished 8-4 + destroyed Oklahoma State at home (and caused Gundy’s “I am 40, I am a man” speech), played very competitive games vs Arkansas (McFadden and Jones), UGA and Tebow’s Gators... scoring 90 points combined against these SEC teams and we still couldn’t go to a bowl game because FAU beat us, 38-32. As a result, Trojan nation was watching the Washington at Hawai’i game late at night (which was our only hope) rooting for the Huskies to beat Hawai’i but Jake Locker was too young at that time and Colt Brennan won that game for Hawaii...so we didn’t get a bowl invite despite being 8-4 and 6-6 teams were going bowling. Since then I am thankful for every bowl game we can get...

I remember sitting at home one year after finishing 9-3 and spending time in the Top 25 during the season. So yes, I agree that things are much better these days. Still, App State got shafted with its matchup against UAB. They deserved to play in a better bowl game than the New Orleans Bowl.

Dang. Both stories suck. Being the new kid, it’s hard to get what the scene was before we got here. While I’m not too disappointed that we didn’t get a different bowl since we really knew that is what was in the cards other than Cotton. But, I do wish we got a conference champ.

Feel sorry for those idiots, do not. 2012 and they turned down the liberty bowl, the year was.

(12-08-2019 07:03 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Sounds like Drink is gone. Hope the guys stay focused like last year and put the beat down.

Is that for certain?

Yup. Deal is now inked.

(12-08-2019 05:52 PM)T2003 Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:27 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:16 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Guys when these bowl ties ins were established the SBC was on the bottom. The next round of bowl shuffling will tell us a lot of the new pecking order. Three of the last four years the SBC has been the clear 3rd best G5 conference.

Beat UAB.

That’s a good point, and it’s something to look forward too, or maybe not depending what we get, but it still doesn’t help this yr, top 20 team, only one to beat 2, count em, 2 P5 schools, and one is going bowling, against an opponent that will not finish in the top 70 and an FPI ranking of 105. Not saying this game is a lock, they can certainly beat us, but it’s tough to swallow with the kind of season we have had.

I hear ya...but its just how things are right now.. In 2007, Troy finished 8-4 + destroyed Oklahoma State at home (and caused Gundy’s “I am 40, I am a man” speech), played very competitive games vs Arkansas (McFadden and Jones), UGA and Tebow’s Gators... scoring 90 points combined against these SEC teams and we still couldn’t go to a bowl game because FAU beat us, 38-32. As a result, Trojan nation was watching the Washington at Hawai’i game late at night (which was our only hope) rooting for the Huskies to beat Hawai’i but Jake Locker was too young at that time and Colt Brennan won that game for Hawaii...so we didn’t get a bowl invite despite being 8-4 and 6-6 teams were going bowling. Since then I am thankful for every bowl game we can get...

Normally I dont like to compare today to sun belt yesteryear. I dont want to argue with anyone, but I personally think App of the last 15 years is better than any of the sun belts 3-5 year mini dynasties held by Troy or Arkansas State at different times. That being said....the 2007 Troy team....wow. the toughest out of conference schedule ever played AND one of the top 6-7 toughest schedules of any team that year. Absolutely unbelievable.

I was looking forward to a better matchup for y'all but hope you can make the best of this. It's seasons like yours that should help the Belt in the next round of bowl negotiations.

IIRC, in 2007 Missouri was one win away from playing in the national championship game. They lost to OU in the Big XII title game and dropped all the way to beating up on an unranked Arkansas in a bowl. Conference affiliation aside, I don't see that happening to Missouri today. It just takes time for shifts in the system to take hold.

(12-08-2019 05:59 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:52 PM)T2003 Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:27 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:16 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Guys when these bowl ties ins were established the SBC was on the bottom. The next round of bowl shuffling will tell us a lot of the new pecking order. Three of the last four years the SBC has been the clear 3rd best G5 conference.

Beat UAB.

That’s a good point, and it’s something to look forward too, or maybe not depending what we get, but it still doesn’t help this yr, top 20 team, only one to beat 2, count em, 2 P5 schools, and one is going bowling, against an opponent that will not finish in the top 70 and an FPI ranking of 105. Not saying this game is a lock, they can certainly beat us, but it’s tough to swallow with the kind of season we have had.

I hear ya...but its just how things are right now.. In 2007, Troy finished 8-4 + destroyed Oklahoma State at home (and caused Gundy’s “I am 40, I am a man” speech), played very competitive games vs Arkansas (McFadden and Jones), UGA and Tebow’s Gators... scoring 90 points combined against these SEC teams and we still couldn’t go to a bowl game because FAU beat us, 38-32. As a result, Trojan nation was watching the Washington at Hawai’i game late at night (which was our only hope) rooting for the Huskies to beat Hawai’i but Jake Locker was too young at that time and Colt Brennan won that game for Hawaii...so we didn’t get a bowl invite despite being 8-4 and 6-6 teams were going bowling. Since then I am thankful for every bowl game we can get...

I remember sitting at home one year after finishing 9-3 and spending time in the Top 25 during the season. So yes, I agree that things are much better these days. Still, App State got shafted with its matchup against UAB. They deserved to play in a better bowl game than the New Orleans Bowl.

Your team turned down a bowl because you were scared you’d lose to a “lesser” team in-state. Totally different scenario

Sun Belt conference champion plays in the new orleans bowl thats how it works normally. New Orleans bowl just needs better tie ins to allow alternates. FAU players and fans would have loved to go to new orleans bowl but I think FAU wants to save its money to hire a new coach. If Kiffin had not left I think he would have sought a new orleans bowl bid.

Hey, in 2003 Marshall beat #6 and eventual Big 12 champ Kansas State, took a good Tennessee team to the fourth, finished 8-4 and sat at home for bowl season. As recently as then, if you didn't win the conference you didn't get a bowl game if you weren't in one of the big conferences.

In 1999 we were ranked #10 and 12-0 and played BYU in the Motor City Bowl. Same bowl we would have played if we were 7-5 and won the MAC.

There was no path at all for anything better. I would have liked to have seen App and FAU. It would have been very entertaining. Don't think UAB matches up well.

(12-08-2019 05:11 PM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  This right here is why being in the Sunbelt is a downer. We are ranked better than C-USA and MAC, and this is what C-USA gets

Tech gets Miami in the Indy

Marshall gets UCF in the Gasparilla.

Southern Miss gets Tulane in the Armed Forces.

FAU gets SMU in Boca.

CUSA is about to get smoked too.

(12-08-2019 06:53 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Although I'm disappointed with the match-up, no disrespect to UAB, I understand the complexity and history of the situation. A very reliable source told me the Belk Bowl tried up until this afternoon to "buyout" App from the NO Bowl to play Va Tech. Yes it would have meant more money for App & the conference. Yes it would have been better for App fans and probably Louisiana fans as well. Both places would have sold more tickets. However, the NO Bowl and it's sponsors have given this conference champion, no matter how good or bad they were, a pretty significant game. That patience has paid off and they have the #20 team in the country coming in. There are 17 bowl games featuring Top 25 teams, 14 for those in the Top 20. Do any of you seriously think for a second the people who run the NO bowl are going to give up that? If you do then you need to go retake Business 101 and pay closer attention.

Makes perfect sense. I for one am not upset about the bowl/location, loved the trip to NO last year and look forward to it again this year. I think most are just a little disappointed in the match up.

(12-08-2019 07:43 PM)debragga Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:59 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:52 PM)T2003 Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:27 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:16 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Guys when these bowl ties ins were established the SBC was on the bottom. The next round of bowl shuffling will tell us a lot of the new pecking order. Three of the last four years the SBC has been the clear 3rd best G5 conference.

Beat UAB.

That’s a good point, and it’s something to look forward too, or maybe not depending what we get, but it still doesn’t help this yr, top 20 team, only one to beat 2, count em, 2 P5 schools, and one is going bowling, against an opponent that will not finish in the top 70 and an FPI ranking of 105. Not saying this game is a lock, they can certainly beat us, but it’s tough to swallow with the kind of season we have had.

I hear ya...but its just how things are right now.. In 2007, Troy finished 8-4 + destroyed Oklahoma State at home (and caused Gundy’s “I am 40, I am a man” speech), played very competitive games vs Arkansas (McFadden and Jones), UGA and Tebow’s Gators... scoring 90 points combined against these SEC teams and we still couldn’t go to a bowl game because FAU beat us, 38-32. As a result, Trojan nation was watching the Washington at Hawai’i game late at night (which was our only hope) rooting for the Huskies to beat Hawai’i but Jake Locker was too young at that time and Colt Brennan won that game for Hawaii...so we didn’t get a bowl invite despite being 8-4 and 6-6 teams were going bowling. Since then I am thankful for every bowl game we can get...

I remember sitting at home one year after finishing 9-3 and spending time in the Top 25 during the season. So yes, I agree that things are much better these days. Still, App State got shafted with its matchup against UAB. They deserved to play in a better bowl game than the New Orleans Bowl.

Your team turned down a bowl because you were scared you’d lose to a “lesser” team in-state. Totally different scenario

That's not true. It's been explained to you dunces that can't understand simple logic, but you're going to think what you think. Anyway, it was a totally different year that I was talking about. I think it was 97 or 98, back when Rattay was lighting it up with huge passing numbers.

(12-08-2019 09:11 PM)banker Wrote:  Hey, in 2003 Marshall beat #6 and eventual Big 12 champ Kansas State, took a good Tennessee team to the fourth, finished 8-4 and sat at home for bowl season. As recently as then, if you didn't win the conference you didn't get a bowl game if you weren't in one of the big conferences.

In 1999 we were ranked #10 and 12-0 and played BYU in the Motor City Bowl. Same bowl we would have played if we were 7-5 and won the MAC.

There was no path at all for anything better. I would have liked to have seen App and FAU. It would have been very entertaining. Don't think UAB matches up well.

Ya, I remember that 1999 game, I believe Marshall asked to be released from their contractual agreement and we’re turned down, to add salt in the wound, I think the same thing happen the following yr, I believed Marshall was ranked in the top 15, I vaguely remember one of the besr players going public with the teams displeasure. Thanks for putting our situation into perspective, as much as we got screwed, it’s nothing compared to what happen to Marshall.

(12-08-2019 09:15 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:11 PM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  This right here is why being in the Sunbelt is a downer. We are ranked better than C-USA and MAC, and this is what C-USA gets

Tech gets Miami in the Indy

Marshall gets UCF in the Gasparilla.

Southern Miss gets Tulane in the Armed Forces.

FAU gets SMU in Boca.

CUSA is about to get smoked too.

We'll see. At least we're getting the opportunity to compete against some opponents that have relevance to people around the nation. In the past five years, Tech has bowl wins against Illinois, Ark St, Navy, SMU, and Hawaii. We certainly have a shot at winning against Miami.

Hell everyone has a chance against Miami. Unless there's a strong wind blowing and it's raining. Then they'll say it's a hurricane, cancel the game and refuse to pay the buyout.

(12-08-2019 06:53 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Although I'm disappointed with the match-up, no disrespect to UAB, I understand the complexity and history of the situation. A very reliable source told me the Belk Bowl tried up until this afternoon to "buyout" App from the NO Bowl to play Va Tech. Yes it would have meant more money for App & the conference. Yes it would have been better for App fans and probably Louisiana fans as well. Both places would have sold more tickets. However, the NO Bowl and it's sponsors have given this conference champion, no matter how good or bad they were, a pretty significant game. That patience has paid off and they have the #20 team in the country coming in. There are 17 bowl games featuring Top 25 teams, 14 for those in the Top 20. Do any of you seriously think for a second the people who run the NO bowl are going to give up that? If you do then you need to go retake Business 101 and pay closer attention.

If this is true they could have at least tried to get a better opponent. Absolutely ridiculous. One of my biggest complaints of bowing are the mismatches in the Lineups. You have a cfp top 25 team playing a 100+ s&p team. Also this make sense with long wait for the announcement.

(12-08-2019 05:27 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:16 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Guys when these bowl ties ins were established the SBC was on the bottom. The next round of bowl shuffling will tell us a lot of the new pecking order. Three of the last four years the SBC has been the clear 3rd best G5 conference.

Beat UAB.

That’s a good point, and it’s something to look forward too, or maybe not depending what we get, but it still doesn’t help this yr, top 20 team, only one to beat 2, count em, 2 P5 schools, and one is going bowling, against an opponent that will not finish in the top 70 and an FPI ranking of 105. Not saying this game is a lock, they can certainly beat us, but it’s tough to swallow with the kind of season we have had.

Ticket sales and bowl attendance over the past few years will help also. The Sun Belt schools have done a pretty good job with bowl ticket sales.