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How to revive Madison's Constitution.
Some good discussion on the problems of partisanship and how to solve them.

"...There are at least three kinds of solutions to the problems the Madisonian Constitution faces today. The first is to fix the extent to which websites and social media platforms have undermined public deliberation and discourse. But doing so runs into two challenges....

A second solution to the breaking down of the Madisonian Constitution may be found in one of the Constitution’s most important safeguards against the tyranny of the mob—the concept of federalism, or the relationship between the federal government and the states....

The third and most promising way to protect the fundamental ideals and objectives of the Madisonian Constitution is through constitutional education. The Framers believed that the fate of the republic depended on educating the citizenry. President George Washington urged Congress to create a national university in 1796. He declared, “A primary object of such a national institution should be the education of our youth in the science of government.” Drawing on his studies of ancient republics, which taught that broadly educating the citizenry was the best safeguard against “crafty and dangerous encroachments on the public liberty,” Madison favored having the rich subsidize education of the poor. He believed it was indispensable for combating factions. In defense of the Kentucky legislature’s “Plan of Education embracing every Class of Citizens,” Madison wrote in 1822, “A popular government, without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy; or, perhaps both.” Subsequently, John Quincy Adams, Henry Clay and Abraham Lincoln were among those who defended the broadening and deepening of public education at both the federal and local levels...."

This article is part of a series: https://www.theatlantic.com/projects/bat...stitution/
12-05-2019 09:27 AM
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Madison is my second least favorite founder. How about we battle for a Jeffersonian constitution instead?
12-06-2019 12:07 PM
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(12-06-2019 12:07 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Madison is my second least favorite founder. How about we battle for a Jeffersonian constitution instead?

I presume you mean of the 7 main founders? I'm curious what order you rank them in - care to share?

I've never even thought of how I feel about them. It's like picking between Ruth, Mantle, Mays, Williams, Cy Young, and Walter Johnson. After Ruth/Washington as the obvious #1 greatest, it's hard to pick a second.
12-07-2019 12:28 AM
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(12-07-2019 12:28 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(12-06-2019 12:07 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Madison is my second least favorite founder. How about we battle for a Jeffersonian constitution instead?

I presume you mean of the 7 main founders? I'm curious what order you rank them in - care to share?

I've never even thought of how I feel about them. It's like picking between Ruth, Mantle, Mays, Williams, Cy Young, and Walter Johnson. After Ruth/Washington as the obvious #1 greatest, it's hard to pick a second.

Not really. Washington, Franklin, Jefferson are my 1,2, 3.
12-11-2019 10:56 PM
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George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Patrick Henry, George Clinton (aka Cato). Everybody else is at least two standard deviations worse.

To me the heart and soul of the ideas behind the American Revolution are best heard in the Anti-Federalist Papers. Without the Anti-Federalists there would be no Bill of Rights today.
12-12-2019 09:26 AM
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Those papers are an inspiring read.

They are like garlic, sunlight and wooden stakes to modern day progressive vampires.
12-13-2019 04:46 PM
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George Washington. He was a fellow Virginian and He left after two terms which helped eliminate the concept of a king and enabled the concept of democracy. The concept of reality then is much different than today.
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