Today I am more concerned about Lou Whitaker getting in Hall of Fame

(12-06-2019 07:49 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(12-06-2019 07:45 PM)San Giuseppe Jato Rocket Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 03:45 PM)Rocket75 Wrote:  It is a waste of time to play a meaningless game. The head coach needs to go get some top flight asst coaches and work his butt off recruiting. Also, the staff needs to make sure the good guys in the program want to stay at Toledo. This season is history. It is time to build the future.

There's only three meaningful bowl games. The other 75 bowl games are trivial facades to fill air time and sell commercials.

Too each their own but I would completely disagree with that.

Anyhow, now ESPN has us in Texas.
vs Tulane in the Frisco Bowl. That's the one in the high school stadium.
vs Wyoming in the Armed Forces Bowl? Did we just become an Academy?

I wouldn't object to either of those game or sites. Nice change of pace.

It is actually played at the home of FC Dallas, it is also the site of the FCS Championship Game. But yes, it is also used by the Frisco Independent School District for Football Games.

It’s official. No bowl.

https://twitter.com/brianbuckey/status/1...4294209537

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(12-08-2019 04:18 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  https://twitter.com/brianbuckey/status/1...4294209537

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That says a lot about the state of the Toledo football program.

(12-08-2019 04:34 PM)SylvaniaRocket Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 04:18 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  https://twitter.com/brianbuckey/status/1...4294209537

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That says a lot about the state of the Toledo football program.

Yep, when Eastern and Kent are picked over Toledo, sad situation indeed...
Toledo only has Toledo to blame... Not the MAC and certainly not ESPN...
“Building Champions” is a slogan that seems so foregone...

(12-08-2019 04:34 PM)SylvaniaRocket Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 04:18 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  https://twitter.com/brianbuckey/status/1...4294209537

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That says a lot about the state of the Toledo football program.

Since the Rockets beat EMU, WMU, Kent St it says a lot about the fanbase not interested in attending a Bowl, staff turnover, and unfortunately a negative
Blade. Remaining staff have a big job of getting this mess straightened out now. Focus needs to be on immediate issues.

(12-08-2019 04:46 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 04:34 PM)SylvaniaRocket Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 04:18 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  https://twitter.com/brianbuckey/status/1...4294209537

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That says a lot about the state of the Toledo football program.

Since the Rockets beat EMU, WMU, Kent St it says a lot about the fanbase not interested in attending a Bowl, staff turnover, and unfortunately a negative
Blade. Remaining staff have a big job of getting this mess straightened out now. Focus needs to be on immediate issues.

Even a uninterested fan base would bring travel better than any of those schools. It is quite possible it was our own decision to stay home.

I would have to think that we declined an offer. Probably the best for everyone at this point. What a crapper of a season.

UT is the only bowl eligible team left out. I understand wanting to go to a bowl for the seniors, but Candle needs every possible humiliation to make him understand that what's happening is not acceptable. If things don't seriously get improved next season, I could see donors being approached to buy Candle out.

I suspect Toledo turned down the Motor City Bowl. I don't think any sane bowl official would think that EMU puts more butts in the seats than you guys. Buffalo fans maybe but not Toledo. Biggest MAC fan base and virtually the same travel distance. Identical records and you beat us head to head as well. Either you turned it down or the Bowl reps are gambling on a bigger EMU attendance because we will be thrilled to be there as 6-6 is a good year for us, while a failure for you guys.

(12-08-2019 05:04 PM)Carolina Rocket Wrote:  I would have to think that we declined an offer. Probably the best for everyone at this point. What a crapper of a season.

I have it on VERY good authority that we would not have declined an invite had ome come, regardless of how financially irresponsible and pointless it would've been.

(12-08-2019 05:24 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:04 PM)Carolina Rocket Wrote:  I would have to think that we declined an offer. Probably the best for everyone at this point. What a crapper of a season.

I have it on VERY good authority that we would not have declined an invite had ome come, regardless of how financially irresponsible and pointless it would've been.

When you fire the DC and the Linebacker coach, and OC takes the head coaching job at some Div 3 school the bowl reps don.t want to see a team that is a complete mess come and get blown out again. Losing 3 straight and getting blown out of 2 of them doesn't look good on your resume. Hopefully Candle can right the ship, if not get rid of him.

(12-08-2019 05:18 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  UT is the only bowl eligible team left out. I understand wanting to go to a bowl for the seniors, but Candle needs every possible humiliation to make him understand that what's happening is not acceptable. If things don't seriously get improved next season, I could see donors being approached to buy Candle out.

Hear, hear. This team had no business going to a bowl game the way they played the last 3 games of the season, and Candle certainly didn’t deserve a bonus for making a bowl game, if that is in his contract. This mess won’t get fixed next season—too many shortcomings to address—but Candle is most certainly on the clock. I think he gets the next 2 seasons, but then that buy-out doesn’t look so ominous if he has continued to flounder at that point. Here’s hoping he had us back to 8 or 9 wins by then.

(12-08-2019 07:16 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:18 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  UT is the only bowl eligible team left out. I understand wanting to go to a bowl for the seniors, but Candle needs every possible humiliation to make him understand that what's happening is not acceptable. If things don't seriously get improved next season, I could see donors being approached to buy Candle out.

Hear, hear. This team had no business going to a bowl game the way they played the last 3 games of the season, and Candle certainly didn’t deserve a bonus for making a bowl game, if that is in his contract. This mess won’t get fixed next season—too many shortcomings to address—but Candle is most certainly on the clock. I think he gets the next 2 seasons, but then that buy-out doesn’t look so ominous if he has continued to flounder at that point. Here’s hoping he had us back to 8 or 9 wins by then.

Took 1 season for CMU to get back on track. UT's program is in better shape than what CMU was working with.

We have options: cheer on the Rockets WBB in Las Vegas Dec. 19 and 20!

(12-08-2019 07:37 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 07:16 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:18 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  UT is the only bowl eligible team left out. I understand wanting to go to a bowl for the seniors, but Candle needs every possible humiliation to make him understand that what's happening is not acceptable. If things don't seriously get improved next season, I could see donors being approached to buy Candle out.

Hear, hear. This team had no business going to a bowl game the way they played the last 3 games of the season, and Candle certainly didn’t deserve a bonus for making a bowl game, if that is in his contract. This mess won’t get fixed next season—too many shortcomings to address—but Candle is most certainly on the clock. I think he gets the next 2 seasons, but then that buy-out doesn’t look so ominous if he has continued to flounder at that point. Here’s hoping he had us back to 8 or 9 wins by then.

Took 1 season for CMU to get back on track. UT's program is in better shape than what CMU was working with.

Yep. I think we can all take a deep breath and trust Candle now. The spring game will be the most telling and important in quite some time. We have 3 toughies OOC in 2020.

Relax this holiday season, pull for the MAC, and even support EMU against Pitt in Detroit!

(12-08-2019 07:37 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 07:16 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 05:18 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  UT is the only bowl eligible team left out. I understand wanting to go to a bowl for the seniors, but Candle needs every possible humiliation to make him understand that what's happening is not acceptable. If things don't seriously get improved next season, I could see donors being approached to buy Candle out.

Hear, hear. This team had no business going to a bowl game the way they played the last 3 games of the season, and Candle certainly didn’t deserve a bonus for making a bowl game, if that is in his contract. This mess won’t get fixed next season—too many shortcomings to address—but Candle is most certainly on the clock. I think he gets the next 2 seasons, but then that buy-out doesn’t look so ominous if he has continued to flounder at that point. Here’s hoping he had us back to 8 or 9 wins by then.

Took 1 season for CMU to get back on track. UT's program is in better shape than what CMU was working with.

I agree 100%. There is no reason this can’t get turned around next season. I truley believe coaching has been the
problem. There is more than enough talent and the team isn’t really losing much to graduation. It really comes down to how serious Candle takes this DC hire. Hope he makes a few consultation calls to Eberfus, Kuligowski, heck even a players dad could help stir him in the right direction.

Yes it is possible that it gets turned around next year. Unfortunately one of the keys to that happening is more consistency from the Qb position, and if our 2020 Qb is on the roster right now, this is a missed opportunity to get them on the field during the month of December and start competing for that spot. As disappointing as the season turned out, it is not 2001 anymore. If 78 of the 130 teams (60%) get to go to a bowl game, Toledo should never, ever not be in one. Especially in a season with a 3-1 nonconference. But they only have themselves to blame for leaving the door open for this to potentially happen.

If I were Mike O’Brien I’d be on the phone with the AD at the University of Mississippi to try to set up a cash grab game in Oxford. They could’ve kept their in-state neighbors home for the bowl season which would have been our spot, but they found it more important to do that celebration that they already did 2 years ago. We owe them one now, and even if we can’t beat them, it would probably end up being more profitable of a trip than any Bowl game would’ve been unless it was the Pizza Bowl.

Toledo football left out of bowl picture.

https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/ut/20...0191208133