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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
(12-05-2019 11:49 AM)RangerRocket Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 04:32 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  I think many of O'Brien's statements are insulting. Take your pick.

I do agree. Basically saying other fan bases and teams are thrilled with a 6-6 record and getting to go to a bowl game (and alluding that we should be too). That's a really a cop out for a flagship MAC football school that's paying its head coach a $1,000,000 a year salary. Sadly, about what I expected MOB to say. He's the longest serving AD in the MAC and we are certainly not "Building Champions" well into his tenure. Disappointing.

In the 16 years O'Brien has been AD, UT has won two MAC football championships, gone to the women's NCAA tournament once and the men's tournament 0 times.
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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
(12-05-2019 12:18 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  I can't read the article because The Blade website keeps telling me I have to disable my adblocker. I do not have an adblocker. I sent notes to them indicating no adblocker, and not surprisingly - no response back. Could get the articles using Incognito for awhile, now I can read the articles for about 4 seconds before I get the adblocker warning again. If anybody else has had this problem and found a way around it, let me know.

Anyone else get the feeling Briggs is monitoring this board and picking up some talking points to write articles about based on some of the discussion that goes on? Nothing wrong with it at all - in fact, it is probably the best place to pick up the sentiments of many fans. Unfortunately, I can't read whatever it was he wrote.



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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
(12-05-2019 12:18 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  I can't read the article because The Blade website keeps telling me I have to disable my adblocker. I do not have an adblocker. I sent notes to them indicating no adblocker, and not surprisingly - no response back. Could get the articles using Incognito for awhile, now I can read the articles for about 4 seconds before I get the adblocker warning again. If anybody else has had this problem and found a way around it, let me know.

Anyone else get the feeling Briggs is monitoring this board and picking up some talking points to write articles about based on some of the discussion that goes on? Nothing wrong with it at all - in fact, it is probably the best place to pick up the sentiments of many fans. Unfortunately, I can't read whatever it was he wrote.

Have you tried opening the link in an incognito tab?
12-05-2019 01:03 PM
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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
(12-05-2019 01:03 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(12-05-2019 12:18 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  I can't read the article because The Blade website keeps telling me I have to disable my adblocker. I do not have an adblocker. I sent notes to them indicating no adblocker, and not surprisingly - no response back. Could get the articles using Incognito for awhile, now I can read the articles for about 4 seconds before I get the adblocker warning again. If anybody else has had this problem and found a way around it, let me know.

Anyone else get the feeling Briggs is monitoring this board and picking up some talking points to write articles about based on some of the discussion that goes on? Nothing wrong with it at all - in fact, it is probably the best place to pick up the sentiments of many fans. Unfortunately, I can't read whatever it was he wrote.

Have you tried opening the link in an incognito tab?


yeh, tried that. Getting blocked from entering by Blade software - Admiral. I just added Adblocker Plus and will try to whitelist the Blade website. Just started to occur shortly after I was using Incognito. May just be a coincidence.
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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
(12-05-2019 12:18 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  I can't read the article because The Blade website keeps telling me I have to disable my adblocker. I do not have an adblocker. I sent notes to them indicating no adblocker, and not surprisingly - no response back. Could get the articles using Incognito for awhile, now I can read the articles for about 4 seconds before I get the adblocker warning again. If anybody else has had this problem and found a way around it, let me know.

Anyone else get the feeling Briggs is monitoring this board and picking up some talking points to write articles about based on some of the discussion that goes on? Nothing wrong with it at all - in fact, it is probably the best place to pick up the sentiments of many fans. Unfortunately, I can't read whatever it was he wrote.

Yes, of course. I would expect that from a beat writer looking for a story that is relevant to the fan base.
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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
(12-05-2019 01:08 PM)PTLROCK Wrote:  
(12-05-2019 12:18 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  I can't read the article because The Blade website keeps telling me I have to disable my adblocker. I do not have an adblocker. I sent notes to them indicating no adblocker, and not surprisingly - no response back. Could get the articles using Incognito for awhile, now I can read the articles for about 4 seconds before I get the adblocker warning again. If anybody else has had this problem and found a way around it, let me know.

Anyone else get the feeling Briggs is monitoring this board and picking up some talking points to write articles about based on some of the discussion that goes on? Nothing wrong with it at all - in fact, it is probably the best place to pick up the sentiments of many fans. Unfortunately, I can't read whatever it was he wrote.

Yes, of course. I would expect that from a beat writer looking for a story that is relrevant to the fan base.

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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
(12-05-2019 01:07 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  
(12-05-2019 01:03 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(12-05-2019 12:18 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  I can't read the article because The Blade website keeps telling me I have to disable my adblocker. I do not have an adblocker. I sent notes to them indicating no adblocker, and not surprisingly - no response back. Could get the articles using Incognito for awhile, now I can read the articles for about 4 seconds before I get the adblocker warning again. If anybody else has had this problem and found a way around it, let me know.

Anyone else get the feeling Briggs is monitoring this board and picking up some talking points to write articles about based on some of the discussion that goes on? Nothing wrong with it at all - in fact, it is probably the best place to pick up the sentiments of many fans. Unfortunately, I can't read whatever it was he wrote.

Have you tried opening the link in an incognito tab?


yeh, tried that. Getting blocked from entering by Blade software - Admiral. I just added Adblocker Plus and will try to whitelist the Blade website. Just started to occur shortly after I was using Incognito. May just be a coincidence.

using smartphone? clear cache, and open on web browser, should be able to read a few articles before blade popup appears asking you to subscribe, simply clear cache, and reopen web browser
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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
ATHLON Sports says Toledo vs. Louisiana Tech 12/30/19 @ 12:30 P:M.
First Responders Bowl. To be played on SMU Field. Fingers crossed.
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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
(12-06-2019 01:20 PM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  ATHLON Sports says Toledo vs. Louisiana Tech 12/30/19 @ 12:30 P:M.
First Responders Bowl. To be played on SMU Field. Fingers crossed.

the team left out on most lists is: Eastern Michigan.

loses to Toledo and last weekend to Kent State (allowing Kent to become bowl eligible) really hurt the Hurons, er Eagles chances.
Toledo beat 4 bowl eligible teams (including BYU) and EMU beat 2 with one being Illinois.

However, I will say Toledo has been left out on a couple lists in favor of EMU.....
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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
(12-06-2019 07:45 PM)San Giuseppe Jato Rocket Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 03:45 PM)Rocket75 Wrote:  It is a waste of time to play a meaningless game. The head coach needs to go get some top flight asst coaches and work his butt off recruiting. Also, the staff needs to make sure the good guys in the program want to stay at Toledo. This season is history. It is time to build the future.

There's only three meaningful bowl games. The other 75 bowl games are trivial facades to fill air time and sell commercials.

Too each their own but I would completely disagree with that.

Anyhow, now ESPN has us in Texas.
vs Tulane in the Frisco Bowl. That's the one in the high school stadium.
vs Wyoming in the Armed Forces Bowl? Did we just become an Academy?

I wouldn't object to either of those game or sites. Nice change of pace.
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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
(12-06-2019 07:49 PM)San Giuseppe Jato Rocket Wrote:  And yes I know its actually less than 40 bowl games. It's called sensationalism. If the media can manipulate the truth. So may I.

Fact is, as I see it, the Rose Bowl is as meaningless as the Cheese Its Bowl if you're not playing for a National Championship.

as I said, to each their own. No intent to attack you or your opinion. No objection to your... sensationalism. I personally didn't even notice it. You opinion has many positives, all that extra time to do constructive things instead of watching all but the National Championship. Me? I don't generally take meaning out of them. I'm just in it for the entertainment. I'd be entertained by those projected games.
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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
The fact is the risk of going and losing far outweighs the chance of winning the game. Coach Candle needs to get a staff together first and foremost. Secondly, while the coaching staff is getting dismantled and other coaches will be leaving, the other schools are using this chaos as a strong recruiting tool for them. A mid level recruiting class will haunt the program for a 2-3 year cycle.

There isn’t enough time for Candle to maintain what little control over the players before any bowl game and actively pursue his assistants and an OC, DC, and other position coaches. Furthermore, how many Seniors and upperclassman want to play another game? They were several that tanked a few years ago and we got waxed down in Alabama. If you think a record of 6-7 after the bowl loss is attracting any recruits your sadly mistaken.

Who cares about any consecutive bowl game appearances we have, concentrate on what matters the most, THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE OF THE PROGRAM.

Candle only has one chance to get it right and regain the team and locker room back. If not, he will be a coordinator next year at another program.
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(12-07-2019 09:43 AM)Rocketman61 Wrote:  The fact is the risk of going and losing far outweighs the chance of winning the game. Coach Candle needs to get a staff together first and foremost. Secondly, while the coaching staff is getting dismantled and other coaches will be leaving, the other schools are using this chaos as a strong recruiting tool for them. A mid level recruiting class will haunt the program for a 2-3 year cycle.

There isn’t enough time for Candle to maintain what little control over the players before any bowl game and actively pursue his assistants and an OC, DC, and other position coaches. Furthermore, how many Seniors and upperclassman want to play another game? They were several that tanked a few years ago and we got waxed down in Alabama. If you think a record of 6-7 after the bowl loss is attracting any recruits your sadly mistaken.

Who cares about any consecutive bowl game appearances we have, concentrate on what matters the most, THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE OF THE PROGRAM.

Candle only has one chance to get it right and regain the team and locker room back. If not, he will be a coordinator next year at another program.

This is how I feel. Direct the resources (including time) to hiring and recruiting. Frankly, I'd like to see Candle slide back to OC and we hire a HC, but I know that just isn't the way the world works.
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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
There's not a lot of staff that will be less effective. Normally, before someone lets someone go they have a place for those people to go and a decent idea of who is available to bring in. That Jan 4th game would give plenty of time to put together a staff and start training.

I don't know if there is even a choice to say yes or no but in the end-game, if there is an option and a game is offered I think you ask your team if they want another go and let that be the guide.
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(12-07-2019 10:22 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  There's not a lot of staff that will be less effective. Normally, before someone lets someone go they have a place for those people to go and a decent idea of who is available to bring in. That Jan 4th game would give plenty of time to put together a staff and start training.

I don't know if there is even a choice to say yes or no but in the end-game, if there is an option and a game is offered I think you ask your team if they want another go and let that be the guide.
I agree if the team wants to go they should go it is all about the players It will not hurt recruiting and making the staff changes Candle probably has a short list already done.
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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
(12-07-2019 09:43 AM)Rocketman61 Wrote:  The fact is the risk of going and losing far outweighs the chance of winning the game. Coach Candle needs to get a staff together first and foremost. Secondly, while the coaching staff is getting dismantled and other coaches will be leaving, the other schools are using this chaos as a strong recruiting tool for them. A mid level recruiting class will haunt the program for a 2-3 year cycle.

There isn’t enough time for Candle to maintain what little control over the players before any bowl game and actively pursue his assistants and an OC, DC, and other position coaches. Furthermore, how many Seniors and upperclassman want to play another game? They were several that tanked a few years ago and we got waxed down in Alabama. If you think a record of 6-7 after the bowl loss is attracting any recruits your sadly mistaken.

Who cares about any consecutive bowl game appearances we have, concentrate on what matters the most, THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE OF THE PROGRAM.

Candle only has one chance to get it right and regain the team and locker room back. If not, he will be a coordinator next year at another program.

How's that? He has three more years on a million $ contract.
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A WARM weather bowl game during bowl week might be a nice reward for the fans, cheerleaders, and band members who sat through freezing temperatures, downpours, and late night games. Just my thoughts ?
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(12-07-2019 08:17 PM)BigBigRocketFan Wrote:  A WARM weather bowl game during bowl week might be a nice reward for the fans, cheerleaders, and band members who sat through freezing temperatures, downpours, and late night games. Just my thoughts ?

Jerry Palm says the rockets are watching, not playing - no bowling this year. It looks like the competition is Eastern and we know what happened head to head....

https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal...redictions
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(12-07-2019 11:16 PM)UTfanBGalum Wrote:  
(12-07-2019 08:17 PM)BigBigRocketFan Wrote:  A WARM weather bowl game during bowl week might be a nice reward for the fans, cheerleaders, and band members who sat through freezing temperatures, downpours, and late night games. Just my thoughts ?

Jerry Palm says the rockets are watching, not playing - no bowling this year. It looks like the competition is Eastern and we know what happened head to head....

https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal...redictions

Since when does the MAC Champ go to Boise?
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RE: Briggs: Should Toledo football even accept a bowl invitation?
I saw a prediction on some site (forgot where) that had Toledo against Boston College in the Quick Lane Bowl in Detroit. Maybe that has already been debunked. Too many guesses on where or if they go bowling...
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