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(12-03-2019 06:31 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I do my little part.

I own an AR-15, a 20 ga shotgun, a .22 target pistol, an 1873 Colt 45 replica (my favorite gun to shoot), a S&W 9mm, and a S&W 38.

The latter 2 are my winter and summer concealed carry weapons.

And I belong to a beautiful gun club just a few miles from my house.

http://eastalabamagunclub.com/index.html

Excellent! I try to do my part as well. I own a Mossberg 500 12 ga deer/turkey combo pump gun with interchangeable barrels, one rifled for slugs, a Mossberg 835 ULTI-MAG camo combo 12 ga pump gun, a Winchester Model 1200 12 ga pump gun, a Winchester Home Defender 12 ga pump gun with a shortened barrel and a pistol grip, a Remington model 1100 semi-auto, a Browning A-bolt 7mm magnum with a Leupold Vari X III 3.5 x 10--50 mm scope (my favorite hunting rifle of all time that I call Killer), a Panther Arms LR-10 .308 semi-auto with a Leupold 3 x 9--40mm scope, a Ruger556 AR-15 semi-auto with an EOTech scope, a Knight 50 cal muzzle loader with plain old iron sights, a Henry Arms customized .22 repeating rifle with inlaid stock, foregrip and octagonal barrel with a sweet iron sight, a Sig P226 TacOps .40, a Glock 27 .40, a Glock 17 9mm, a Walther PPQ 9mm, (my favorite concealed carry weapon) a S&W Bodyguard .380 as a backup CC weapon (because I have to go into Memphis at least 3 times a week and one pistol doesn't seem like enough) and an M&P Shield 9mm, all with trijicon night sights and custom triggers from various manufacturers. Oh, and a S&W Airweight .38 snub nose that hurts to shoot.

Oh, and a Matthews Solo Cam compound bow as well as a decent crossbow with a red dot scope I've yet to use.

Wait, I owned all those before the great flood swept them all out sea, about 5.5 hours away. I had them stored in a spare bedroom closet that I converted into a custom gun closet with the door jam reinforced on both sides with 2x4's secured with 8 inch lag bolts holding them together and a solid core door with reinforced heavy duty hinges secured by 2 deadbolts and two 3 inch slide bolts top and bottom secured by two heavy duty padlocks. I suppose someone could (have) eventually chop(ped) through the door with an axe but they aint kicking it in. Oh, and there was plenty of ammo for all of them that took up about half the closet. It all got burned up in the fire.

Oh, and I have a nice sized collection of vintage mint condition Case XX knives and several tactical style machetes and hatchets. And a big ass German Shepherd. And a pair of really cool nunchukas that I used to be very proficient with back when I was into the martial arts in my younger days.

Personally I think I need more because the closet still has empty spots. Did I mention I may (have) be(en) a bit of a gun enthusiast (at one time, before everything was stolen by traveling gypsies)?

My girlfriend thinks its a touch over the top and that I may be borderline paranoid but what does she know...
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I don't keep much laying around.

I had a 12 ga Remington my dad gave me when I turned 13 to deer hunt with, he got it as a safety award on an offshore oil rig.
I had a 12 ga Remington pump I bought a few years ago.
I had my grandfather's old Remington 270 that my grandmother gave to me after he passed.
I had a 410 single shot my grandfather used to hunt squirrels with when he was 12, he gave it to me on my 12th birthday.
I had a Kimber 1911.
I had a Bowtech Assassin. Yea it was old, but still shot sweet.

Then the sinkhole happened in between here and there and lost it all.
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(12-04-2019 07:50 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I don't keep much laying around.

I had a 12 ga Remington my dad gave me when I turned 13 to deer hunt with, he got it as a safety award on an offshore oil rig.
I had a 12 ga Remington pump I bought a few years ago.
I had my grandfather's old Remington 270 that my grandmother gave to me after he passed.
I had a 410 single shot my grandfather used to hunt squirrels with when he was 12, he gave it to me on my 12th birthday.
I had a Kimber 1911.
I had a Bowtech Assassin. Yea it was old, but still shot sweet.

Then the sinkhole happened in between here and there and lost it all.

Freakin natural disasters suck. And to lose all those heirlooms, damnit man!
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(12-03-2019 10:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 10:23 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 06:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 06:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 06:31 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I do my little part.

I have an AR-15, a 20 ga shotgun, a .22 target pistol, an 1873 Colt 45 replica (my favorite gun to shoot), a S&W 9mm, and a S&W 38.

The latter 2 are my winter and summer concealed carry weapons.

And I belong to a beautiful gun club just a few miles from my house.

http://eastalabamagunclub.com/index.html

As someone who was in the industry for almost 2 decades during my corporate life I can tell you all when the left moves it won't be against firearms, it will be against ammunition. They've already quadrupled the price of ammo and of ammo components with Federal laws requiring all components necessary to make a cartridge be shipped in separate shipments to the distributors. So primers, powder, bullets, and brass have to be shipped separately. That drives the cost of shipping sky high, especially when insurance and handling stipulations for the carriers are added.

Twice in my time they tried to come up with a shelf life for powder so that stockpiling ammo would be of no use since it would become too unstable to fire safely. Thankfully the fear of liability prevented this on both occasions.

But don't for a second consider the threats against the guns, which are constitutionally protected, to be anything but a smokescreen for coming after the ammo. After all, if you don't have ammo, most guns are good only as a club.

Towards the end of my time with that industry MEC, RCBS, and other reloading equipment began to get harder to get. The Green Machine which could reload 500 rounds per hour (but was specific to caliber) impacted the fear of both the left and the ammunition companies. And, after Oklahoma City not only were components affected but fertilizer for farmers and dynamite for construction and farming was as well. Since then the main attack on weapons and ammo have been through regulatory restrictions and local ordinances.

IMO, the attack on weapons is merely a fund raising tool of the NRA and a fund raising tool of the Left. But our government continues to attack this right as I illustrated above. It's like watching a magician. It's not what they publicize that you need to fear, but rather what they are doing behind your back when nobody is watching.

I've thought about that some. Ammo was in short supply a few years back, due to hoarding and fear of Obama and other issues.

But for now, I think there are enough states that are controlled by R legislatures that there will always be places to manufacture ammo.

So the issue becomes what you raised, the components. I guess a D pres can do some EOs and cause some harm, but the Ds would need the House + 60 in the Senate to pass any restrictive legislation.

And I'm old enough that I can now hoard enough ammo to last me, lol.

I get a kick out of news reports where a bad guy is found to have had 1000 rounds of ammo at his house and the media clutches it’s pearls

I got caught in 2012 when you couldn’t buy 9mm or .22 in a local store and was forced to pay through the nose on the web just to go to the range.

Never happening to me again.

Be careful of state laws that are not published. For instance in Kentucky it is illegal to possess 5000 rounds and it isn't specified if it is cumulative for all calibers or just one.

The HSA has a lot of buried provisions as well, some pertaining to the amount of cash ($5000) you can keep at home, on your person, or in a safe deposit box without being considered a potential terrorist.

Obviously that doesn't have much to do with Homeland Security, but it helps the government monitor your financial transactions if all of them are done through a bank or via any form of electronic transfer. Never before in our nations history were citizens forced to keep money in banks. BTW that also applies with regards to safe deposit boxes to other forms of wealth which is not in the form of currency.

I really don’t care about how much of a legally purchased item a state says I can have stored in stacks of metal .50 cal ammo boxes in my locked closet and safes.

Man, there are a hell of a lot of law abiding terrorists in Kentucky if 5000 cumulative rounds is a trigger. Lol. I know guys who have way more than that stored just for their AR platform.
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(12-04-2019 01:36 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 06:31 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I do my little part.

I own an AR-15, a 20 ga shotgun, a .22 target pistol, an 1873 Colt 45 replica (my favorite gun to shoot), a S&W 9mm, and a S&W 38.

The latter 2 are my winter and summer concealed carry weapons.

And I belong to a beautiful gun club just a few miles from my house.

http://eastalabamagunclub.com/index.html

Excellent! I try to do my part as well. I own a Mossberg 500 12 ga deer/turkey combo pump gun with interchangeable barrels, one rifled for slugs, a Mossberg 835 ULTI-MAG camo combo 12 ga pump gun, a Winchester Model 1200 12 ga pump gun, a Winchester Home Defender 12 ga pump gun with a shortened barrel and a pistol grip, a Remington model 1100 semi-auto, a Browning A-bolt 7mm magnum with a Leupold Vari X III 3.5 x 10--50 mm scope (my favorite hunting rifle of all time that I call Killer), a Panther Arms LR-10 .308 semi-auto with a Leupold 3 x 9--40mm scope, a Ruger556 AR-15 semi-auto with an EOTech scope, a Knight 50 cal muzzle loader with plain old iron sights, a Henry Arms customized .22 repeating rifle with inlaid stock, foregrip and octagonal barrel with a sweet iron sight, a Sig P226 TacOps .40, a Glock 27 .40, a Glock 17 9mm, a Walther PPQ 9mm, (my favorite concealed carry weapon) a S&W Bodyguard .380 as a backup CC weapon (because I have to go into Memphis at least 3 times a week and one pistol doesn't seem like enough) and an M&P Shield 9mm, all with trijicon night sights and custom triggers from various manufacturers. Oh, and a S&W Airweight .38 snub nose that hurts to shoot.

Oh, and a Matthews Solo Cam compound bow as well as a decent crossbow with a red dot scope I've yet to use.

Wait, I owned all those before the great flood swept them all out sea, about 5.5 hours away. I had them stored in a spare bedroom closet that I converted into a custom gun closet with the door jam reinforced on both sides with 2x4's secured with 8 inch lag bolts holding them together and a solid core door with reinforced heavy duty hinges secured by 2 deadbolts and two 3 inch slide bolts top and bottom secured by two heavy duty padlocks. I suppose someone could (have) eventually chop(ped) through the door with an axe but they aint kicking it in. Oh, and there was plenty of ammo for all of them that took up about half the closet. It all got burned up in the fire.

Oh, and I have a nice sized collection of vintage mint condition Case XX knives and several tactical style machetes and hatchets. And a big ass German Shepherd. And a pair of really cool nunchukas that I used to be very proficient with back when I was into the martial arts in my younger days.

Personally I think I need more because the closet still has empty spots. Did I mention I may (have) be(en) a bit of a gun enthusiast (at one time, before everything was stolen by traveling gypsies)?

My girlfriend thinks its a touch over the top and that I may be borderline paranoid but what does she know...

Even paranoids have enemies. Lol

And remember, everyone pokes fun at the prepper until they need him.

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(12-04-2019 08:35 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(12-04-2019 07:50 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I don't keep much laying around.

I had a 12 ga Remington my dad gave me when I turned 13 to deer hunt with, he got it as a safety award on an offshore oil rig.
I had a 12 ga Remington pump I bought a few years ago.
I had my grandfather's old Remington 270 that my grandmother gave to me after he passed.
I had a 410 single shot my grandfather used to hunt squirrels with when he was 12, he gave it to me on my 12th birthday.
I had a Kimber 1911.
I had a Bowtech Assassin. Yea it was old, but still shot sweet.

Then the sinkhole happened in between here and there and lost it all.

Freakin natural disasters suck. And to lose all those heirlooms, damnit man!

Yea.. Just odd.. It was down a dark road one night.. And it opened up, took the guns and closed back up.. I can't even tell you how to get back there..
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(12-03-2019 06:17 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 06:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Sometimes, Americans make me proud to be one. When Richard Nixon gave us the 55mph speed limit, we all learned how to use CB radios. This is another one of those times.

I love Americans' collective ability to give stupid-ass authority the middle finger.

Excuse me kind sir, but Gerald Ford was actually the president when the Speed Limit was set at 55 mph.

But 10-4 good buddy! Hammer down!

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(12-03-2019 10:18 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:28 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 06:17 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 06:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Sometimes, Americans make me proud to be one. When Richard Nixon gave us the 55mph speed limit, we all learned how to use CB radios. This is another one of those times.
I love Americans' collective ability to give stupid-ass authority the middle finger.
Excuse me kind sir, but Gerald Ford was actually the president when the Speed Limit was set at 55 mph.
But 10-4 good buddy! Hammer down!
Don't think so. I was away, fighting commies for our freedom at the time, but that's not the way I remember it.
From Wikipedia,
"The Emergency Highway Energy Conservation Act was a bill in the U.S. Congress that enacted the National Maximum Speed Law.[14] States had to agree to the limit if they desired to receive federal funding for highway repair. The uniform speed limit was signed into law by Nixon on January 2, 1974, and became effective 60 days later,[15] by requiring the limit as a condition of each state receiving highway funds, a use of the Commerce Clause of the United States Constitution.[16]
"The legislation required 55 mph (89 km/h) speed limits on all four-lane divided highways unless the road had a lower limit before November 1, 1973. In some cases, like the New York Thruway, the 50 mph (80 km/h) speed limit had to be raised to comply with the law. The law capped speed limits at 55 mph (89 km/h) on all other roads.[15]"
Ford signed the amendments of it into law on January 4th, 1975.

But all the amendments did was to make permanent what was already in effect. Fortunately, we eventually came back to our senses. The toll roads around Austin are now 85mph in some places. One more thing I like about Texas.
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(12-03-2019 10:23 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I got caught in 2012 when you couldn’t buy 9mm or .22 in a local store and was forced to pay through the nose on the web just to go to the range.

Never happening to me again.

That's why I'm a 7.62x39 fan. Decades ago eastern european military surplus ammo was unbelievably cheap. I've still got wooden crates of 1000 rd sealed tins from 20 years ago. Not to mention that the rifles are incredibly reliable, accurate, and relatively cheap.


As for the black Friday purchases, I made the decision a while back that as many of my future purchases as possible would be private transactions.
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(12-04-2019 02:49 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 10:23 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I got caught in 2012 when you couldn’t buy 9mm or .22 in a local store and was forced to pay through the nose on the web just to go to the range.

Never happening to me again.

That's why I'm a 7.62x39 fan. Decades ago eastern european military surplus ammo was unbelievably cheap. I've still got wooden crates of 1000 rd sealed tins from 20 years ago. Not to mention that the rifles are incredibly reliable, accurate, and relatively cheap.


As for the black Friday purchases, I made the decision a while back that as many of my future purchases as possible would be private transactions.

Flip your ammo crates and paper cases every six months. It keeps the powder from clumping which is the chief issue with firing stored ammo. Clumped powder doesn't ignite uniformly so you can get too much pressure or too little. Also the wooden crated Soviet and Chinese powder might still contain corrosive elements. So when you fire it clean your guns more thoroughly.
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(12-04-2019 02:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-04-2019 02:49 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 10:23 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I got caught in 2012 when you couldn’t buy 9mm or .22 in a local store and was forced to pay through the nose on the web just to go to the range.

Never happening to me again.

That's why I'm a 7.62x39 fan. Decades ago eastern european military surplus ammo was unbelievably cheap. I've still got wooden crates of 1000 rd sealed tins from 20 years ago. Not to mention that the rifles are incredibly reliable, accurate, and relatively cheap.


As for the black Friday purchases, I made the decision a while back that as many of my future purchases as possible would be private transactions.

Flip your ammo crates and paper cases every six months. It keeps the powder from clumping which is the chief issue with firing stored ammo. Clumped powder doesn't ignite uniformly so you can get too much pressure or too little. Also the wooden crated Soviet and Chinese powder might still contain corrosive elements. So when you fire it clean your guns more thoroughly.

Thanks for the info. I haven't been the best about turning the crates, but I do put them on a vibrator before shooting when i crack open a new tin. The rounds are packaged in 25 count paper boxes inside the tins with wax paper between the five rows of five. They have a lubricant on them that has remained viscous and isn't tacky at all. I've always had to clean a bit more after shooting due to the lubricant and residue build-up in the barrel after about 100 rounds.
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(12-04-2019 02:49 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 10:23 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I got caught in 2012 when you couldn’t buy 9mm or .22 in a local store and was forced to pay through the nose on the web just to go to the range.

Never happening to me again.

That's why I'm a 7.62x39 fan. Decades ago eastern european military surplus ammo was unbelievably cheap. I've still got wooden crates of 1000 rd sealed tins from 20 years ago. Not to mention that the rifles are incredibly reliable, accurate, and relatively cheap.


As for the black Friday purchases, I made the decision a while back that as many of my future purchases as possible would be private transactions.
Had a buddy from Montana and he wouldn't buy a gun unless it was NATO rounds.
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(12-04-2019 03:07 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(12-04-2019 02:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-04-2019 02:49 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 10:23 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I got caught in 2012 when you couldn’t buy 9mm or .22 in a local store and was forced to pay through the nose on the web just to go to the range.

Never happening to me again.

That's why I'm a 7.62x39 fan. Decades ago eastern european military surplus ammo was unbelievably cheap. I've still got wooden crates of 1000 rd sealed tins from 20 years ago. Not to mention that the rifles are incredibly reliable, accurate, and relatively cheap.


As for the black Friday purchases, I made the decision a while back that as many of my future purchases as possible would be private transactions.

Flip your ammo crates and paper cases every six months. It keeps the powder from clumping which is the chief issue with firing stored ammo. Clumped powder doesn't ignite uniformly so you can get too much pressure or too little. Also the wooden crated Soviet and Chinese powder might still contain corrosive elements. So when you fire it clean your guns more thoroughly.

Thanks for the info. I haven't been the best about turning the crates, but I do put them on a vibrator before shooting when i crack open a new tin. The rounds are packaged in 25 count paper boxes inside the tins with wax paper between the five rows of five. They have a lubricant on them that has remained viscous and isn't tacky at all. I've always had to clean a bit more after shooting due to the lubricant and residue build-up in the barrel after about 100 rounds.

I bought 1000 rounds of some Russian made (I think) .308 FMJ rounds for target shooting that stinks to high heaven. What's up with that??
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(12-04-2019 09:55 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 10:18 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:28 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 06:17 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 06:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Sometimes, Americans make me proud to be one. When Richard Nixon gave us the 55mph speed limit, we all learned how to use CB radios. This is another one of those times.
I love Americans' collective ability to give stupid-ass authority the middle finger.
Excuse me kind sir, but Gerald Ford was actually the president when the Speed Limit was set at 55 mph.
But 10-4 good buddy! Hammer down!
Don't think so. I was away, fighting commies for our freedom at the time, but that's not the way I remember it.
From Wikipedia,
"The Emergency Highway Energy Conservation Act was a bill in the U.S. Congress that enacted the National Maximum Speed Law.[14] States had to agree to the limit if they desired to receive federal funding for highway repair. The uniform speed limit was signed into law by Nixon on January 2, 1974, and became effective 60 days later,[15] by requiring the limit as a condition of each state receiving highway funds, a use of the Commerce Clause of the United States Constitution.[16]
"The legislation required 55 mph (89 km/h) speed limits on all four-lane divided highways unless the road had a lower limit before November 1, 1973. In some cases, like the New York Thruway, the 50 mph (80 km/h) speed limit had to be raised to comply with the law. The law capped speed limits at 55 mph (89 km/h) on all other roads.[15]"
Ford signed the amendments of it into law on January 4th, 1975.

But all the amendments did was to make permanent what was already in effect. Fortunately, we eventually came back to our senses. The toll roads around Austin are now 85mph in some places. One more thing I like about Texas.

I really need to move to Texas.
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Not a gun... but I'm itching to get one of these...
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Still not sure where I land on the crossbow thing.

I know alot of people like them..
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(12-05-2019 01:14 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Still not sure where I land on the crossbow thing.

I know alot of people like them..

They're great for people with tendinitis in the elbow or shoulder. I used to have my compound bow set at 70 lbs. These days I'd do good to pull back 40. And the newer ones are accurate at twice the range of a compound bow. I used to hunt most of the year with my Matthews because I loved the challenge, I don't think I ever took a shot over 40 yards with it.
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RE: So proud to be American right now
I hunt with both a compound and a Excalibur recurve crossbow based on my mood that day. There are pros and cons to both.
12-05-2019 05:33 PM
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