(12-05-2019 01:47 PM)TexanMark Wrote: (12-05-2019 09:27 AM)Indytarheel Wrote: (12-04-2019 11:45 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: Who'd have thought that GT and NC State would both win, but UNC and UVA would both lose? ACC loses the challenge because of tonight.
[Remind me: what exactly is UNC supposed to be contributing to this conference?]
National Championships...... got any?
Didn't they win one in Bass Fishing?
NC State is often accused of Bass Fishing.
NC State only four national titles 2 in women's cross country in 79 and 80 and two in basketball in 74 and 83.
NC State only has 15 conference basketball titles - 29, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 54, 55, 56, 59, 65, 70, 83 and 87
State only has 10 football conference titles 07, 10, 13, 27, 57, 63, 64, 68, 73, and 79
Baseball conference titles are just in 68, 73, 74, 75 and 1992.
State's main contribution to the conference was the construction of Reynolds Coliseum where the Dixie Classic and ACC Tournament were held for many years. It opened in 1946. We did not have a legitimate football stadium until 1966. In the late 80's and early 90's all of NC State's athletic programs were downgraded by the Administration at the behest of UNC Board of Governors - a board controlled by UNC-Ch alums. Combined with the addition of Florida State in football in the 90's, NC State has never fully recovered.
As a piece of the conference puzzle, NC State is worth more to the SEC or B10 than they are to the ACC, except the ACC does not want the B10 or SEC in Triangle or Triad markets of NC. More problematic is that NC State has a southern cultural fan base but is a school modeled and administered like a Big 10 school - namely Purdue. The final cherry on the top is that UNC-Ch has a veto over any move we would make.
It's like being in the first or second level of Hell, it beats being frozen in the ice, but it's not Heaven. let alone Limbo.