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If Trump is innocent
then why is he withholding documents and demanding those who could easily clear him not testify?

Why is he pushing the false narrative of Ukrainian interference in 2016?

Odd behavior for the wrongly accused.
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RE: If Trump is innocent
(12-03-2019 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  then why is he withholding documents and demanding those who could easily clear him not testify?

Why is he pushing the false narrative of Ukrainian interference in 2016?

Odd behavior for the wrongly accused.

Because in this country, it is up to the accusers to prove their case. The accused doesn't have to prove their innocence.

Why is the left continuing with a coup attempt?

Why is the left pushing every false narrative they can dream up?
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You do understand the executive branch is an equal branch of government to the legislative branch right? Shifty and Nanny and Fat Nadler don’t get to run the White House too....
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RE: If Trump is innocent
(12-03-2019 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  then why is he withholding documents and demanding those who could easily clear him not testify?

Why is he pushing the false narrative of Ukrainian interference in 2016?

Odd behavior for the wrongly accused.

Because that's not how this works, it's never been how this works. He's the accused. He has to do NOTHING to prove himself innocent. It's on the accusers to prove him guilty which so far they have failed to do.
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RE: If Trump is innocent
This isn’t a legal trial... its a political trial.

And while Trump knows he has a stacked jury in the Senate, it appears maintaining that stacked jury is his only strategy. If they expectedly clear him, he still has to lead a country where 50% of the country believes he should be convicted in the Senate. So, if you know these charges are bogus, and you know there are 3-4 witnesses who could completely exonerate you, then why are you exerting executive privilege and denying them the ability to do so?
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RE: If Trump is innocent
(12-03-2019 08:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  This isn’t a legal trial... its a political trial.

And while Trump knows he has a stacked jury in the Senate, it appears maintaining that stacked jury is his only strategy. If they expectedly clear him, he still has to lead a country where 50% of the country believes he should be convicted in the Senate. So, if you know these charges are bogus, and you know there are 3-4 witnesses who could completely exonerate you, then why are you exerting executive privilege and denying them the ability to do so?

IMO, that doesn't matter at all. He's still the accused. My point stands.
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RE: If Trump is innocent
(12-03-2019 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  then why is he withholding documents and demanding those who could easily clear him not testify?

Why is he pushing the false narrative of Ukrainian interference in 2016?

Odd behavior for the wrongly accused.

b/c the dipshites think they've found another clue....

as a sadist, he enjoys raking dems over the coals again, and again, and again, and a....

at this point, it's become 'sport' ...

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RE: If Trump is innocent
(12-03-2019 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  then why is he withholding documents and demanding those who could easily clear him not testify?

Why is he pushing the false narrative of Ukrainian interference in 2016?

Odd behavior for the wrongly accused.


Why is Schiff withholding testimony from "some" of his closed door sessions?

If you want Trump to put all of his cards on the table, then you should ask that of ALL of them....

EVERY SINGLE one of these mother f'ers do something underhanded or at the very least unsavory E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E of them. That, frankly, is how you get schidt done. Like I said, if you want Trump to be transparent, then ALL of Congress and ALL of the Senate should too.
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1. One thing you are right about it’s political. So you should understand why he tells them to FO!

2. The president runs foreign policy. Plain and simple.

3. If you are so worried about this, why are you not at all concerned about the Biden corruption? You know, the thing that started this whole uproar.
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RE: If Trump is innocent
(12-03-2019 08:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  This isn’t a legal trial... its a political trial.

And while Trump knows he has a stacked jury in the Senate, it appears maintaining that stacked jury is his only strategy. If they expectedly clear him, he still has to lead a country where 50% of the country believes he should be convicted in the Senate. So, if you know these charges are bogus, and you know there are 3-4 witnesses who could completely exonerate you, then why are you exerting executive privilege and denying them the ability to do so?

Because our system doesn't work that way.
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RE: If Trump is innocent
(12-03-2019 08:54 AM)appst89 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  This isn’t a legal trial... its a political trial.

And while Trump knows he has a stacked jury in the Senate, it appears maintaining that stacked jury is his only strategy. If they expectedly clear him, he still has to lead a country where 50% of the country believes he should be convicted in the Senate. So, if you know these charges are bogus, and you know there are 3-4 witnesses who could completely exonerate you, then why are you exerting executive privilege and denying them the ability to do so?

Because our system doesn't work that way.

It does concern me how ignorant the voting population is. Take the last big ‘get Trump fiasco’ as an example. Two years of intense investigation by a team of partisan hacks and all they got were process crimes and years old tax cheats that had nothing to do with Trump or their witch hunt. Yet they claim 42 million indictments and people in jail and these idiots glum it up. The same goes here. The congenital liar Schiff throws garbage out there as if it is filet mignon and the idiots glum it up. That’s why I say fool me twice and call me a democrat.
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RE: If Trump is innocent
(12-03-2019 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  then why is he withholding documents and demanding those who could easily clear him not testify?

Why is he pushing the false narrative of Ukrainian interference in 2016?

Odd behavior for the wrongly accused.

Um, innocent until proven guilty? And burden of proof? I know you leftists hate due process and the rule of law but c'mon man.
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RE: If Trump is innocent
(12-03-2019 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  then why is he withholding documents and demanding those who could easily clear him not testify?

Why is he pushing the false narrative of Ukrainian interference in 2016?

Odd behavior for the wrongly accused.

Because no matter what Trump puts out there, people like Adam Schiff will completely ignore it and still claim he is guilty.

It is never enough.
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(12-03-2019 09:10 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:54 AM)appst89 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  This isn’t a legal trial... its a political trial.

And while Trump knows he has a stacked jury in the Senate, it appears maintaining that stacked jury is his only strategy. If they expectedly clear him, he still has to lead a country where 50% of the country believes he should be convicted in the Senate. So, if you know these charges are bogus, and you know there are 3-4 witnesses who could completely exonerate you, then why are you exerting executive privilege and denying them the ability to do so?

Because our system doesn't work that way.

It does concern me how ignorant the voting population is. Take the last big ‘get Trump fiasco’ as an example. Two years of intense investigation by a team of partisan hacks and all they got were process crimes and years old tax cheats that had nothing to do with Trump or their witch hunt. Yet they claim 42 million indictments and people in jail and these idiots glum it up. The same goes here. The congenital liar Schiff throws garbage out there as if it is filet mignon and the idiots glum it up. That’s why I say fool me twice and call me a democrat.

just wait for Nadler and his midget of minions.....

it's now gettin' 'crunked' and shoved into reverse....
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RE: If Trump is innocent
(12-03-2019 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  then why is he withholding documents and demanding those who could easily clear him not testify?

Why is he pushing the false narrative of Ukrainian interference in 2016?

Odd behavior for the wrongly accused.

1. IF Schiff had the goods, they would've impeached a month ago, but Schiff and crew are fishing hoping something surfaces. Currently there's nothing and the testimonies from the last two weeks have blown up in their faces.

2. Nadler now wants to jump in and get him a piece, but like all kangaroo courts they want to do it on their terms so they set the hearings up for when Trump is out of the country at NATO conferences that were set up A YEAR AGO. But you don't find that odd.

3. Everything is pointing that Biden is corrupt, but nobody is focusing on that, you're focusing on Trump which goes and proves the point that the Dems are team over country.
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RE: If Trump is innocent
(12-03-2019 08:16 AM)appst89 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  then why is he withholding documents and demanding those who could easily clear him not testify?

Why is he pushing the false narrative of Ukrainian interference in 2016?

Odd behavior for the wrongly accused.

Because in this country, it is up to the accusers to prove their case. The accused doesn't have to prove their innocence.

Why is the left continuing with a coup attempt?

Why is the left pushing every false narrative they can dream up?

1) Its impossible to prove a negative.
2) The Democrats wouldn't believe it anyway.
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(12-03-2019 09:10 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:54 AM)appst89 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  This isn’t a legal trial... its a political trial.

And while Trump knows he has a stacked jury in the Senate, it appears maintaining that stacked jury is his only strategy. If they expectedly clear him, he still has to lead a country where 50% of the country believes he should be convicted in the Senate. So, if you know these charges are bogus, and you know there are 3-4 witnesses who could completely exonerate you, then why are you exerting executive privilege and denying them the ability to do so?

Because our system doesn't work that way.

It does concern me how ignorant the voting population is. Take the last big ‘get Trump fiasco’ as an example. Two years of intense investigation by a team of partisan hacks and all they got were process crimes and years old tax cheats that had nothing to do with Trump or their witch hunt. Yet they claim 42 million indictments and people in jail and these idiots glum it up. The same goes here. The congenital liar Schiff throws garbage out there as if it is filet mignon and the idiots glum it up. That’s why I say fool me twice and call me a democrat.

And how mentally ill many of them are. They will believe anything and ignore all evidence to the contrary.
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(12-03-2019 09:44 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 09:10 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:54 AM)appst89 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  This isn’t a legal trial... its a political trial.

And while Trump knows he has a stacked jury in the Senate, it appears maintaining that stacked jury is his only strategy. If they expectedly clear him, he still has to lead a country where 50% of the country believes he should be convicted in the Senate. So, if you know these charges are bogus, and you know there are 3-4 witnesses who could completely exonerate you, then why are you exerting executive privilege and denying them the ability to do so?

Because our system doesn't work that way.

It does concern me how ignorant the voting population is. Take the last big ‘get Trump fiasco’ as an example. Two years of intense investigation by a team of partisan hacks and all they got were process crimes and years old tax cheats that had nothing to do with Trump or their witch hunt. Yet they claim 42 million indictments and people in jail and these idiots glum it up. The same goes here. The congenital liar Schiff throws garbage out there as if it is filet mignon and the idiots glum it up. That’s why I say fool me twice and call me a democrat.

And how mentally ill many of them are. They will believe anything and ignore all evidence to the contrary.

what you guys need to realize, is dems do it all with malice and intent....

this is the power game extraordinaire...

it's why "drain the swamp" was never going to be easy....

that by itself may be DJT's greatest undertaking in resolve....
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RE: If Trump is innocent
(12-03-2019 08:16 AM)appst89 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  then why is he withholding documents and demanding those who could easily clear him not testify?

Why is he pushing the false narrative of Ukrainian interference in 2016?

Odd behavior for the wrongly accused.

Because in this country, it is up to the accusers to prove their case. The accused doesn't have to prove their innocence.

Why is the left continuing with a coup attempt?

Why is the left pushing every false narrative they can dream up?

They seem to forget that. Face your accuser, unreasonable searches, innocent until proven guilty... it's alien to those who don't understand the concepts behind self-government and protections against oppressive governments.


Thing is, what the radicals fail to realize is that history consistently shows when they do get their way they are the first ones neutralized/exterminated by the radical, oppressive government they've been demanding.
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RE: If Trump is innocent
(12-03-2019 08:54 AM)appst89 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  This isn’t a legal trial... its a political trial.

And while Trump knows he has a stacked jury in the Senate, it appears maintaining that stacked jury is his only strategy. If they expectedly clear him, he still has to lead a country where 50% of the country believes he should be convicted in the Senate. So, if you know these charges are bogus, and you know there are 3-4 witnesses who could completely exonerate you, then why are you exerting executive privilege and denying them the ability to do so?

Because our system doesn't work that way.

It's obvious they are just listening to whatever the MSM is telling them and mindlessly parroting back talking points. We all learned how the system works in high school. Either they are being obtusely dense or unequivocally partisan.
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