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RE: If Trump is innocent
As a practical matter, he may be reserving testimony for the Senate trial if things make it that far. Imagine if the Dems send the case to the Senate, then the case collapses due to rules of evidence being applied and defense witnesses exonerating Trump. It would be a huge win politically for him. He knows he can't get a fair shake in the House. So he can save all his ammo for a favorable hearing in the Senate and crush the Dem narrative. He said a while ago that he hopes the Dems go all in on this and that it'll blow up in their faces spectacularly. We'll have to wait and see.
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He proved his innocence when the transcript was released. The word "aide" was never stated.
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(12-03-2019 10:06 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:54 AM)appst89 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 08:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  This isn’t a legal trial... its a political trial.

And while Trump knows he has a stacked jury in the Senate, it appears maintaining that stacked jury is his only strategy. If they expectedly clear him, he still has to lead a country where 50% of the country believes he should be convicted in the Senate. So, if you know these charges are bogus, and you know there are 3-4 witnesses who could completely exonerate you, then why are you exerting executive privilege and denying them the ability to do so?

Because our system doesn't work that way.

It's obvious they are just listening to whatever the MSM is telling them and mindlessly parroting back talking points. We all learned how the system works in high school. Either they are being obtusely dense or unequivocally partisan.

which is a large percentage that continues to grow as defined by line 1b)...
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There is no "if" about Trump's innocence. Even delusional, bat sh#t crazy Dems who have manufactured all of this nonsense know that he is not guilty. What else have they got but to keep this circus going, because they sure in hell aren't doing the American people any good.
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(12-03-2019 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  then why is he withholding documents and demanding those who could easily clear him not testify?

Why is he pushing the false narrative of Ukrainian interference in 2016?

Odd behavior for the wrongly accused.

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Anytime I see a Menses post or thread the image of Wile E. Coyote comes to mind. Sometimes I start to wonder why that is and then he'll grace us with his latest acquisition of Acme "knowledge" that promptly blows right up in his face and I then remember why.


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(12-03-2019 10:42 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Anytime I see a Menses post or thread the image of Wile E. Coyote comes to mind. Sometimes I start to wonder why that is and then he'll grace us with his latest acquisition of Acme "knowledge" that promptly blows right up in his face and I then remember why.


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“Menses” 03-lmfao I see what you did there. Better hope you don’t get....well you know.
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If you're innocent...
- You don't need a lawyer, just talk to us
- You should let me in your house to look around
- Just let us take a look in your car

...if you're innocent you have nothing to worry about.
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(12-03-2019 12:15 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  If you're innocent...
- You don't need a lawyer, just talk to us
- You should let me in your house to look around
- Just let us take a look in your car

...if you're innocent you have nothing to worry about.

XACLY!

thank the good goodies for the sane folk....
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(12-03-2019 10:07 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  As a practical matter, he may be reserving testimony for the Senate trial if things make it that far. Imagine if the Dems send the case to the Senate, then the case collapses due to rules of evidence being applied and defense witnesses exonerating Trump. It would be a huge win politically for him. He knows he can't get a fair shake in the House. So he can save all his ammo for a favorable hearing in the Senate and crush the Dem narrative. He said a while ago that he hopes the Dems go all in on this and that it'll blow up in their faces spectacularly. We'll have to wait and see.

03-lmfao
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(12-03-2019 12:29 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 10:07 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  As a practical matter, he may be reserving testimony for the Senate trial if things make it that far. Imagine if the Dems send the case to the Senate, then the case collapses due to rules of evidence being applied and defense witnesses exonerating Trump. It would be a huge win politically for him. He knows he can't get a fair shake in the House. So he can save all his ammo for a favorable hearing in the Senate and crush the Dem narrative. He said a while ago that he hopes the Dems go all in on this and that it'll blow up in their faces spectacularly. We'll have to wait and see.

03-lmfao

send this updated version to the 'bizzle....

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(12-03-2019 10:42 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Anytime I see a Menses post or thread the image of Wile E. Coyote comes to mind. Sometimes I start to wonder why that is and then he'll grace us with his latest acquisition of Acme "knowledge" that promptly blows right up in his face and I then remember why.


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Every.Single.Time. Textbook definition of insanity.
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(12-03-2019 12:29 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 10:07 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  As a practical matter, he may be reserving testimony for the Senate trial if things make it that far. Imagine if the Dems send the case to the Senate, then the case collapses due to rules of evidence being applied and defense witnesses exonerating Trump. It would be a huge win politically for him. He knows he can't get a fair shake in the House. So he can save all his ammo for a favorable hearing in the Senate and crush the Dem narrative. He said a while ago that he hopes the Dems go all in on this and that it'll blow up in their faces spectacularly. We'll have to wait and see.

03-lmfao

Man, I can smell the nervous stink of fear emanating from you all the way up here in TN.
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(12-03-2019 01:24 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 10:42 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Anytime I see a Menses post or thread the image of Wile E. Coyote comes to mind. Sometimes I start to wonder why that is and then he'll grace us with his latest acquisition of Acme "knowledge" that promptly blows right up in his face and I then remember why.


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Every.Single.Time. Textbook definition of insanity.

To be expected when one repeats a talking point without actually knowing anything at all about the subject matter. It's great entertainment at least.
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(12-03-2019 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  then why is he withholding documents and demanding those who could easily clear him not testify?

Why is he pushing the false narrative of Ukrainian interference in 2016?

Odd behavior for the wrongly accused.

Trump will be on Rushmore by the time you figure out all the ways the MSM has lied to you.
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(12-03-2019 12:29 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 10:07 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  As a practical matter, he may be reserving testimony for the Senate trial if things make it that far. Imagine if the Dems send the case to the Senate, then the case collapses due to rules of evidence being applied and defense witnesses exonerating Trump. It would be a huge win politically for him. He knows he can't get a fair shake in the House. So he can save all his ammo for a favorable hearing in the Senate and crush the Dem narrative. He said a while ago that he hopes the Dems go all in on this and that it'll blow up in their faces spectacularly. We'll have to wait and see.

03-lmfao

That’s more than one line. I don’t believe you read all of that...
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(12-03-2019 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  then why is he withholding documents and demanding those who could easily clear him not testify?
Why is he pushing the false narrative of Ukrainian interference in 2016?
Odd behavior for the wrongly accused.

Not at all odd. This is more of a lynch mob/kangaroo court than a grand jury proceeding. No need to disclose anything about your defense until you are in a forum where facts might matter.
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Honestly, if he were to turn everything open they'd dig until they found a "high crime or misdemeanor".
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(12-04-2019 07:39 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Honestly, if he were to turn everything open they'd dig until they found a "high crime or misdemeanor".

This. The burden lies with the accusers not the accused. Let them flail away and ignore it all. Equal branch and executive priveledge and all.
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(12-03-2019 08:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  This isn’t a legal trial... its a political trial.

And while Trump knows he has a stacked jury in the Senate, it appears maintaining that stacked jury is his only strategy. If they expectedly clear him, he still has to lead a country where 50% of the country believes he should be convicted in the Senate. So, if you know these charges are bogus, and you know there are 3-4 witnesses who could completely exonerate you, then why are you exerting executive privilege and denying them the ability to do so?

Because facts, guilt, or incidence has never mattered. The Democrats know it’s a joke charge. They have wanted to impeach since he won in 2016. They thought thier fake Russia Russia Russia charges would create a vehicle to that—but that completely backfired in them, So they have moved to a new fake news charge.

Trump completely cooperated the first time around and the Democrats proved they don’t care about facts, truth, or evidence. Thus, when faced with crooked, fraudulent, out of control Democrats running a sham “investigation”—-the administration has learned they are better off using the adversarial method of dealing with unhinged Democrats. In other words, you are smart to treat crazy people with power differently than you treat reasonable people with power. 04-cheers
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