(10-30-2020 11:23 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  





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Harrison Waylee!
He is a speedster.

Deveaux is our heaviest starting LB! I never would have thought that.

(10-30-2020 12:50 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Deveaux is our heaviest starting LB! I never would have thought that.

Bigger DEs although size doesn’t matter

Surprised about Rattin. Must mean he has gotten only better.

Sucks if we lost those 3 since they played as true freshman and Mattox/Love have real good potential. I wonder if they are just sitting this season out?

So basically we should expect Weston Kramer (maybe Richie) back for next season too since he is a true senior and this year is a wash with no eligibility given up? That would be huge to get him back for one more season.

(10-30-2020 01:09 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  Surprised about Rattin. Must mean he has gotten only better.

Sucks if we lost those 3 since they played as true freshman and Mattox/Love have real good potential. I wonder if they are just sitting this season out?

So basically we should expect Weston Kramer (maybe Richie) back for next season too since he is a true senior and this year is a wash with no eligibility given up? That would be huge to get him back for one more season.

Love, Mattox and Aitken are still on the roster, they just don't appear on this first depth chart.

(10-30-2020 12:50 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Deveaux is our heaviest starting LB! I never would have thought that.

This team is actually sized pretty well.

Everyone on the OL is above 300LB and 6'3. Athletically we hope they can move, but they shouldn't be bullied from a power standpoint.

On defense, this isn't bad for a 4-3 defense. If this were the early 00s, these guys wouldn't be sized much different than an NFL team. Both DEs have good size over 255LB. Both DTs over 290LB. Both CBs over 5'10. At least all the LBs are above 220LB. Antonio Jones Davis was 5'11/220 and Jawaun Johnson was 6'0/218.

I'm very surprised Jordan Cole got passed up on the depth chart! I'm surprised he's behind the freshman Rayner, although I hear Rayner is a missile. Hopefully Cole can pick up for Deveaux or Pugh, if neither wants to play their 10th year in 2021. (Since this year doesn't count against eligibility).

Hopefully Love is taking an RS. He's going to be something someday. I hope he doesn't transfer.

This is a different roster from Rod Carey. Gone are the days of 5'9 and below corners who overcompensated short size with insanity. Also gone are the days of RB converted into DEs like Sutton Smith and Perez Ford, what a crazy/effective idea.

(10-30-2020 01:09 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  Surprised about Rattin. Must mean he has gotten only better.

Sucks if we lost those 3 since they played as true freshman and Mattox/Love have real good potential. I wonder if they are just sitting this season out?

So basically we should expect Weston Kramer (maybe Richie) back for next season too since he is a true senior and this year is a wash with no eligibility given up? That would be huge to get him back for one more season.

Must be all that Panda Express Rattin has been eating

I have so many questions. Are there injuries? Are guys out due to contact tracing? Are they going to rotate a ton of guys through each week so that pretty much everyone plays throughout the season? Is the freshman class just THAT good?

Surprises to me:
Haidet over Neville @ backup QB
No Ducker @ RB
No McCray @ WR
Travis over Love @ WR
Mattox not in the top 5 DE
Cole not starting at LB
No Labus @ LB
No Aitken @ CB
Gandy starting @ CB (I thought he had to sit this year after the transfer)

Massive shout out to Rudolph & O'Malley for coming to campus as walk ons a being on the 2 deep n the very first game!

I'm excited to see how this all plays out on the field...

(10-30-2020 03:23 PM)TXHuskieJA26 Wrote:  I have so many questions. Are there injuries? Are guys out due to contact tracing? Are they going to rotate a ton of guys through each week so that pretty much everyone plays throughout the season? Is the freshman class just THAT good?

Surprises to me:
Haidet over Neville @ backup QB
No Ducker @ RB
No McCray @ WR
Travis over Love @ WR
Mattox not in the top 5 DE
Cole not starting at LB
No Labus @ LB
No Aitken @ CB
Gandy starting @ CB (I thought he had to sit this year after the transfer)

Massive shout out to Rudolph & O'Malley for coming to campus as walk ons a being on the 2 deep n the very first game!

I'm excited to see how this all plays out on the field...

My guess is Ducker is RS. Labus is a big surprise. Maybe he opt'd out to save a year?

Every person on team has a pass this year. Freshman can play all games and still retain freshman status for next year. They can red shirt next year. Play the best players no impact on eligibility

(10-30-2020 04:15 PM)klake87 Wrote:  Every person on team has a pass this year. Freshman can play all games and still retain freshman status for next year. They can red shirt next year. Play the best players no impact on eligibility

Are Deveaux and Pugh gonna come back for year 10 and earn their doctorates? Or should I say, can they?

The depth chart changed quite a bit week to week last season. I expect the secondary and d-line to rotate a lot of guys, and I'm sure they could have gone three deep at a lot of those spots.

Who knows if they can play but gotta love the size!!! LFG!

(10-30-2020 05:09 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  The depth chart changed quite a bit week to week last season. I expect the secondary and d-line to rotate a lot of guys, and I'm sure they could have gone three deep at a lot of those spots.

I was going to say the same thing Hammock does not like to show his whole hand. The guys that are competing at the highest level will play assuming they don’t have COVID.

(10-30-2020 03:43 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  I read this the other day:

NIU freshman RB Jevyon Ducker suffered an ankle injury before fall camp opened and will be out for a while. Three-star 2020 RB Ducker (5'10/190) was rated the fourth best recruit from the state of Nebraska for the 2020 cycle. The Bellevue, Nebraska native was hoping to battle JUCO transfer Erin Collins and redshirt freshman Rondarius Gregory for carries, but with a truncated six-game MAC schedule in place, he could struggle to see the field if this injury lingers.

SOURCE: Daily Chronicle
Oct 22, 2020, 11:08 AM ET

Ugh, these guys can't catch a break. At least we still have a lot of potential at the RB spot.

Wow!!! This ish is going to backfire and the whole staff is going to look silly. Do y’all really think that all of these freshman are better than the returning players? Hammock or Jackson don’t know what the hell they are doing. I wish we could bet on Illinois college teams cause I would make a killing these next six weeks!

Hawaii, to answer your questions: Yes, every single player CAN come back next year regardless of eligibility standing going into these 6 games. So the question for guys like Pugh, Deveaux and Bowers is WILL they. They obviously have the choice to move on, and it is up to each university as to whether they will offer scholarships to players would normally have been done in terms of eligibility. As for anyone opting out, they would not be listed on the roster if they had done so i.e. Nettles.

It sucks that Ducker is injured, but at the same time its good to know that its not a case of one of the most highly touted freshmen in recent memory not being good enough to get on the field in a year when freshman are clearly being given every opportunity.

Sportsfan...I'd withhold judgement on something like that for a couple reasons. 1) at some spots we were just that devoid of talent that true freshmen have to play i.e. at safety. Defensive end doesn't surprise me either since we have had zero production there since Smitn and Corcoran and its not like these freshman are listed above a bunch of SRs & JRs, its pretty much all RS FR or SOPHs. 2) In all reality we know there will be a major asterisk next to these six games and to the "MAC CHAMPIONSHIP." Add in the free eligibility, and why wouldn't you take the opportunity to throw as many guys out there as possible?? Get them all real game reps, play the guys each week that really earned it in practice. Basically use these 6 games as a more game realistic training camp to build into next year. If that is Hammocks thinking and a big reason behind some freshman being listed before other guys, I'm totally OK with that. We will just have to wait and see!

(10-30-2020 08:04 PM)TXHuskieJA26 Wrote:  Hawaii, to answer your questions: Yes, every single player CAN come back next year regardless of eligibility standing going into these 6 games. So the question for guys like Pugh, Deveaux and Bowers is WILL they. They obviously have the choice to move on, and it is up to each university as to whether they will offer scholarships to players would normally have been done in terms of eligibility. As for anyone opting out, they would not be listed on the roster if they had done so i.e. Nettles.

It sucks that Ducker is injured, but at the same time its good to know that its not a case of one of the most highly touted freshmen in recent memory not being good enough to get on the field in a year when freshman are clearly being given every opportunity.

Sportsfan...I'd withhold judgement on something like that for a couple reasons. 1) at some spots we were just that devoid of talent that true freshmen have to play i.e. at safety. Defensive end doesn't surprise me either since we have had zero production there since Smitn and Corcoran and its not like these freshman are listed above a bunch of SRs & JRs, its pretty much all RS FR or SOPHs. 2) In all reality we know there will be a major asterisk next to these six games and to the "MAC CHAMPIONSHIP." Add in the free eligibility, and why wouldn't you take the opportunity to throw as many guys out there as possible?? Get them all real game reps, play the guys each week that really earned it in practice. Basically use these 6 games as a more game realistic training camp to build into next year. If that is Hammocks thinking and a big reason behind some freshman being listed before other guys, I'm totally OK with that. We will just have to wait and see!

Thank you for talking football

(10-30-2020 08:15 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(10-30-2020 08:04 PM)TXHuskieJA26 Wrote:  Hawaii, to answer your questions: Yes, every single player CAN come back next year regardless of eligibility standing going into these 6 games. So the question for guys like Pugh, Deveaux and Bowers is WILL they. They obviously have the choice to move on, and it is up to each university as to whether they will offer scholarships to players would normally have been done in terms of eligibility. As for anyone opting out, they would not be listed on the roster if they had done so i.e. Nettles.

It sucks that Ducker is injured, but at the same time its good to know that its not a case of one of the most highly touted freshmen in recent memory not being good enough to get on the field in a year when freshman are clearly being given every opportunity.

Sportsfan...I'd withhold judgement on something like that for a couple reasons. 1) at some spots we were just that devoid of talent that true freshmen have to play i.e. at safety. Defensive end doesn't surprise me either since we have had zero production there since Smitn and Corcoran and its not like these freshman are listed above a bunch of SRs & JRs, its pretty much all RS FR or SOPHs. 2) In all reality we know there will be a major asterisk next to these six games and to the "MAC CHAMPIONSHIP." Add in the free eligibility, and why wouldn't you take the opportunity to throw as many guys out there as possible?? Get them all real game reps, play the guys each week that really earned it in practice. Basically use these 6 games as a more game realistic training camp to build into next year. If that is Hammocks thinking and a big reason behind some freshman being listed before other guys, I'm totally OK with that. We will just have to wait and see!

Thank you for talking football

(10-30-2020 08:15 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(10-30-2020 08:04 PM)TXHuskieJA26 Wrote:  Hawaii, to answer your questions: Yes, every single player CAN come back next year regardless of eligibility standing going into these 6 games. So the question for guys like Pugh, Deveaux and Bowers is WILL they. They obviously have the choice to move on, and it is up to each university as to whether they will offer scholarships to players would normally have been done in terms of eligibility. As for anyone opting out, they would not be listed on the roster if they had done so i.e. Nettles.

It sucks that Ducker is injured, but at the same time its good to know that its not a case of one of the most highly touted freshmen in recent memory not being good enough to get on the field in a year when freshman are clearly being given every opportunity.

Sportsfan...I'd withhold judgement on something like that for a couple reasons. 1) at some spots we were just that devoid of talent that true freshmen have to play i.e. at safety. Defensive end doesn't surprise me either since we have had zero production there since Smitn and Corcoran and its not like these freshman are listed above a bunch of SRs & JRs, its pretty much all RS FR or SOPHs. 2) In all reality we know there will be a major asterisk next to these six games and to the "MAC CHAMPIONSHIP." Add in the free eligibility, and why wouldn't you take the opportunity to throw as many guys out there as possible?? Get them all real game reps, play the guys each week that really earned it in practice. Basically use these 6 games as a more game realistic training camp to build into next year. If that is Hammocks thinking and a big reason behind some freshman being listed before other guys, I'm totally OK with that. We will just have to wait and see!

Thank you for talking football