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RE: CBS Sports seriously reporting Norvell Top Target of....Mizzou
(12-02-2019 09:31 AM)Chi-Town Wrote: (12-02-2019 08:47 AM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-02-2019 06:53 AM)Chi-Town Wrote: (12-02-2019 01:17 AM)MvETigers Wrote: (12-02-2019 12:17 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote: I think you guys are minimizing the allure of sitting at the grown ups table. With a win Saturday, he will have accomplished about all he can at Memphis. Playing in the Cotton Bowl (or whatever the top bowl a non P5 team can expect to make) is pretty much the pinnacle.
Motivated, ambitious coaches like Norvell usually look for something higher. I could easily see him at Arkansas or Missouri next year. I’m sure he thinks he could get the job done at either place. Realistically, it will be difficult to really succeed at either place, but I’d be surprised if he wouldn’t take either job if offered. I’m not so sure of Ole Miss, but I’m sure he’d listen.
I’d love to keep him here, but I totally understand if he leaves for greener pastures. He’s left the program in a great state, and we should find a lot of great coaches interested in the job. As we know, other than Fuente, it’s been a coaching graveyard.
I’d really be surprised if he is our coach next year...
He has said multiple times that the grass isn't always greener.
You are confusing his honesty with Fuente. Fuente said from the beginning that he wanted to move on to better. I respected him for the honesty. Norvell has been the opposite.
The Cotton Bowl might be the best Memphis can do, but it is the best (meaning NY6 Bowl) that AR, ole miss, MO or BC can likely do as well. They won't beat Clemson or Bama to get their playoff shot, so they are in the same boat as Memphis... with a tougher schedule and much higher stress level to accomplish what is essentially the same goal. Memphis you make maybe half a million less (although the bonus schedule is prime), but you win the Cotton Bowl you likely have statues made in your name. You go to the Cotton Bowl once or twice, but never make the playoffs, you will be fired at those jobs as well.
Here we go again. Statues and legacy and all of the things that some envision are important to someone they have never met. People also toss out the millions he stands to gain as inconsequential because he has already earned more than they can fathom and has other priorities defined for him by the anonymous internet crowd (of which, I am just one with an opinion, and idle time in an airport to weigh in).
He DOES NOT have a chance of playing for a championship here, whereas he does at any of the schools mentioned. (Unlikely, yes, but at least they have a path where we do not currently and for the foreseeable future). I don’t like it either but that is the reality. He may be positioning himself for the next iteration of a CFP that includes more than a top 4?
There is not a coach that I would want that does not think that he is the one to succeed wildly where others have failed. Coaching is a type “A” profession, all the way, you have to be wired that way to be the best of the best and I think Norvell is certainly that.
Let it play out but don’t think for a second that Norvell is not at least talking to some of these suitors, he would be an idiot not to, and I believe him to be represented by the best agent in the history of agents.
Today’s teams at the top were not always at the top. Georgia, Fla, Bama, LSU, even Auburn, they have all been down relatively recently, and now some of them are the perceived unbeatables that he would not want to coach against?
Enjoy and savor the time with OUR Coach, he is ours until otherwise. I for one hope that he proves different than the norm and stays here forever, but understand that his priorities don’t necessarily align with my own. When he does leave, it will be with my thanks and best wishes.
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You say he has no chance to play for a natl title, but he'll have a top 25 team virtually every year. At OM, MO & AR that is not likely. And there is very little difference in the money with much more security here. Wisdom is to wait for a premo job. And if MN keeps winning AAC west titles, plays for AAC titles, he will eventually get his opportunity at a premo job or usher Memphis into the big time - both better options than OM, AR or MO for jobs.
You say top 25, but what you really mean is top 15-25, rarely higher, and a single loss costs you big time. Slim margin for error (Tulsa?). I don’t know what the difference is in the money, nor would a guess get me anywhere close, probably.
Primo job somewhere? Absolutely, but does he want to wait? As one poster here said, if OU comes calling he is gone, and should be. The rest really depends on what is important to him and his family, and no one can really predict that or the timeframe.
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For sure OU is a premo job, probably the best job in the B12, even better than UT because it doesn't seem anyone can win at Tex anymore. Any job at the top univ in a P5 conference is a premo job. Even FSU is a premo job with the right contract & support (facilities) but that is about the bottom. Below FSU, all others in the ACC are 2nd-3rd-4th tier. Then you have Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA & UF as top in the SEC, OU & UT in the B12. Personally I don't think you'll ever have a nationally competitive school in the PAC again. CA is just screwed up socially & politically and their high school sports programs are a mess too. That means, IMO, there are about 10-12 premo jobs. and if MN keeps winning here with a clean program & no controversies, he'll eventually get one of those jobs if he is patient. Have not included the B10 (maybe 2-3 jobs there) because it's a different culture that might not suit MN.
(This post was last modified: 12-02-2019 10:34 AM by Atlanta.)
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