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RE: CBS Sports seriously reporting Norvell Top Target of....Mizzou
While I hate to see MN leave us anytime soon, I sure enjoy being in a situation where we are cheering on our 11-1 football team in the Conference Championship this weekend...beats the heck out of suffering through the losing years during the the early 80s when I went to school. 04-cheers
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(12-02-2019 08:42 AM)memphodude Wrote:  Well you can take all this Ark, Mizzou, Ole Miss crap and flush it.

The Cowboys are interested in Lincoln Riley.
If Riley’s phone rings he’s gone.

THEN....that’s when Norvell is gone.
He’d crawl over broken glass to get to OU.

(Of course after the obligatory “Urban Meyer” dance.)

I think FSU is a high probability but that would only happen IF Brian Kelly says no to a Jimbo Fisher/TAMU type contract that FSU will throw at him.

He would leave for OU in a heartbeat.
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RE: CBS Sports seriously reporting Norvell Top Target of....Mizzou
Damned, he'd kill it at OK. Plus theyd still be close to his inlaws, AND with Baylor and Texas possibly opening up next year, he could be looking at a playoff berth for the next 3 years.

That, or Texas or Auburn, is the type of job he should be leaving for. None of this Ole Miss, Arky, Mizzou type bs.
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RE: CBS Sports seriously reporting Norvell Top Target of....Mizzou
(12-02-2019 09:31 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 08:47 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 06:53 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  
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(12-02-2019 12:17 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  I think you guys are minimizing the allure of sitting at the grown ups table. With a win Saturday, he will have accomplished about all he can at Memphis. Playing in the Cotton Bowl (or whatever the top bowl a non P5 team can expect to make) is pretty much the pinnacle.

Motivated, ambitious coaches like Norvell usually look for something higher. I could easily see him at Arkansas or Missouri next year. I’m sure he thinks he could get the job done at either place. Realistically, it will be difficult to really succeed at either place, but I’d be surprised if he wouldn’t take either job if offered. I’m not so sure of Ole Miss, but I’m sure he’d listen.

I’d love to keep him here, but I totally understand if he leaves for greener pastures. He’s left the program in a great state, and we should find a lot of great coaches interested in the job. As we know, other than Fuente, it’s been a coaching graveyard.

I’d really be surprised if he is our coach next year...

He has said multiple times that the grass isn't always greener.

You are confusing his honesty with Fuente. Fuente said from the beginning that he wanted to move on to better. I respected him for the honesty. Norvell has been the opposite.

The Cotton Bowl might be the best Memphis can do, but it is the best (meaning NY6 Bowl) that AR, ole miss, MO or BC can likely do as well. They won't beat Clemson or Bama to get their playoff shot, so they are in the same boat as Memphis... with a tougher schedule and much higher stress level to accomplish what is essentially the same goal. Memphis you make maybe half a million less (although the bonus schedule is prime), but you win the Cotton Bowl you likely have statues made in your name. You go to the Cotton Bowl once or twice, but never make the playoffs, you will be fired at those jobs as well.


Here we go again. Statues and legacy and all of the things that some envision are important to someone they have never met. People also toss out the millions he stands to gain as inconsequential because he has already earned more than they can fathom and has other priorities defined for him by the anonymous internet crowd (of which, I am just one with an opinion, and idle time in an airport to weigh in).

He DOES NOT have a chance of playing for a championship here, whereas he does at any of the schools mentioned. (Unlikely, yes, but at least they have a path where we do not currently and for the foreseeable future). I don’t like it either but that is the reality. He may be positioning himself for the next iteration of a CFP that includes more than a top 4?

There is not a coach that I would want that does not think that he is the one to succeed wildly where others have failed. Coaching is a type “A” profession, all the way, you have to be wired that way to be the best of the best and I think Norvell is certainly that.

Let it play out but don’t think for a second that Norvell is not at least talking to some of these suitors, he would be an idiot not to, and I believe him to be represented by the best agent in the history of agents.

Today’s teams at the top were not always at the top. Georgia, Fla, Bama, LSU, even Auburn, they have all been down relatively recently, and now some of them are the perceived unbeatables that he would not want to coach against?

Enjoy and savor the time with OUR Coach, he is ours until otherwise. I for one hope that he proves different than the norm and stays here forever, but understand that his priorities don’t necessarily align with my own. When he does leave, it will be with my thanks and best wishes.


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You say he has no chance to play for a natl title, but he'll have a top 25 team virtually every year. At OM, MO & AR that is not likely. And there is very little difference in the money with much more security here. Wisdom is to wait for a premo job. And if MN keeps winning AAC west titles, plays for AAC titles, he will eventually get his opportunity at a premo job or usher Memphis into the big time - both better options than OM, AR or MO for jobs.


You say top 25, but what you really mean is top 15-25, rarely higher, and a single loss costs you big time. Slim margin for error (Tulsa?). I don’t know what the difference is in the money, nor would a guess get me anywhere close, probably.

Primo job somewhere? Absolutely, but does he want to wait? As one poster here said, if OU comes calling he is gone, and should be. The rest really depends on what is important to him and his family, and no one can really predict that or the timeframe.


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For sure OU is a premo job, probably the best job in the B12, even better than UT because it doesn't seem anyone can win at Tex anymore. Any job at the top univ in a P5 conference is a premo job. Even FSU is a premo job with the right contract & support (facilities) but that is about the bottom. Below FSU, all others in the ACC are 2nd-3rd-4th tier. Then you have Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA & UF as top in the SEC, OU & UT in the B12. Personally I don't think you'll ever have a nationally competitive school in the PAC again. CA is just screwed up socially & politically and their high school sports programs are a mess too. That means, IMO, there are about 10-12 premo jobs. and if MN keeps winning here with a clean program & no controversies, he'll eventually get one of those jobs if he is patient. Have not included the B10 (maybe 2-3 jobs there) because it's a different culture that might not suit MN.
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(12-02-2019 08:42 AM)memphodude Wrote:  Well you can take all this Ark, Mizzou, Ole Miss crap and flush it.

The Cowboys are interested in Lincoln Riley.
If Riley’s phone rings he’s gone.

THEN....that’s when Norvell is gone.
He’d crawl over broken glass to get to OU.

(Of course after the obligatory “Urban Meyer” dance.)

I think FSU is a high probability but that would only happen IF Brian Kelly says no to a Jimbo Fisher/TAMU type contract that FSU will throw at him.

Florida State did not throw a "Jimbo Fisher type contract" to Jimbo Fisher.

Because of Sexton FSU has to pay Taggert 80% of his remaining contract estimated 18-20 million.

Because of Sexton Mike Norvell has the smallest penalty buyout - 500,000. ND penalty for taking Kelly away is a few million.

Norvell is much more in FSU price range since they will now will be paying 2 coaches. Also FSU has an interim AD and a name coach will also want to dictate who they hire as his next boss.

FSU declared that new coach would be in place at season end - they have to have someone in mind. They haven't even made an offer yet.
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(12-02-2019 10:34 AM)mccarverslawyer Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 08:42 AM)memphodude Wrote:  Well you can take all this Ark, Mizzou, Ole Miss crap and flush it.

The Cowboys are interested in Lincoln Riley.
If Riley’s phone rings he’s gone.

THEN....that’s when Norvell is gone.
He’d crawl over broken glass to get to OU.

(Of course after the obligatory “Urban Meyer” dance.)

I think FSU is a high probability but that would only happen IF Brian Kelly says no to a Jimbo Fisher/TAMU type contract that FSU will throw at him.

Florida State did not throw a "Jimbo Fisher type contract" to Jimbo Fisher.

Because of Sexton FSU has to pay Taggert 80% of his remaining contract estimated 18-20 million.

Because of Sexton Mike Norvell has the smallest penalty buyout - 500,000. ND penalty for taking Kelly away is a few million.

Norvell is much more in FSU price range since they will now will be paying 2 coaches. Also FSU has an interim AD and a name coach will also want to dictate who they hire as his next boss.

FSU declared that new coach would be in place at season end - they have to have someone in mind. They haven't even made an offer yet.

Problem is they want Boob Stoops or Urban Meyer with a real facilities problem & an unreal opinion of who they are - so they have set themselves up to be disappointed in whoever they eventually get & are therefore unlikely to want to pay.
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They ruled out Stoops a couple weeks ago. Urban Meyer was never floated there - James Franklin is their stretch name along with Kelly.

The MO of an unrealistic crowd (see UT) is to publicly run a hiring process yet FSU has been silent - Very silent.
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When Norvell came to Memphis, he found a full pantry and won instantly. If he goes to Ark., Ole Miss, FSU or BC, he’ll get a program at the bottom of the heap. All of them have been down for more than a few years. But money and status can do wonders for a coach. There are a lot of reasons for Norvell to stay at Memphis — winning program, recruits electrified to join the team, very good salary, big fish in a smallish pond. But the challenge for him might be to take a down program and build it up to championship level. Whether he can do that in the SEC or ACC, remains to be seen. I hope he stays, but I think one of the schools will make him an offer he cannot refuse.[/b]
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(12-02-2019 12:17 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  I think you guys are minimizing the allure of sitting at the grown ups table. With a win Saturday, he will have accomplished about all he can at Memphis. Playing in the Cotton Bowl (or whatever the top bowl a non P5 team can expect to make) is pretty much the pinnacle.

Motivated, ambitious coaches like Norvell usually look for something higher. I could easily see him at Arkansas or Missouri next year. I’m sure he thinks he could get the job done at either place. Realistically, it will be difficult to really succeed at either place, but I’d be surprised if he wouldn’t take either job if offered. I’m not so sure of Ole Miss, but I’m sure he’d listen.

I’d love to keep him here, but I totally understand if he leaves for greener pastures. He’s left the program in a great state, and we should find a lot of great coaches interested in the job. As we know, other than Fuente, it’s been a coaching graveyard.

I’d really be surprised if he is our coach next year...

He said himself in a recent interview that the grass is not always greener in the other pasture. I don’t know if he is going to leave or not, but I do think it would have to be a special situation for him. Like FSU maybe or one of the Texas schools, being that’s where he’s from. Do t really know, but we shall see.
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Norvell has said, he hates it when a coach leaves (announces) before a teams championship game that he's leaving. Just my opinion and tifwiw, I think one way or another, we'll know something next week regarding Florida State or any other school that's rumored to want Norvell. Florida St. is my only concern for now.
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(12-02-2019 10:30 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 09:31 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 08:47 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 06:53 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:17 AM)MvETigers Wrote:  He has said multiple times that the grass isn't always greener.

You are confusing his honesty with Fuente. Fuente said from the beginning that he wanted to move on to better. I respected him for the honesty. Norvell has been the opposite.

The Cotton Bowl might be the best Memphis can do, but it is the best (meaning NY6 Bowl) that AR, ole miss, MO or BC can likely do as well. They won't beat Clemson or Bama to get their playoff shot, so they are in the same boat as Memphis... with a tougher schedule and much higher stress level to accomplish what is essentially the same goal. Memphis you make maybe half a million less (although the bonus schedule is prime), but you win the Cotton Bowl you likely have statues made in your name. You go to the Cotton Bowl once or twice, but never make the playoffs, you will be fired at those jobs as well.


Here we go again. Statues and legacy and all of the things that some envision are important to someone they have never met. People also toss out the millions he stands to gain as inconsequential because he has already earned more than they can fathom and has other priorities defined for him by the anonymous internet crowd (of which, I am just one with an opinion, and idle time in an airport to weigh in).

He DOES NOT have a chance of playing for a championship here, whereas he does at any of the schools mentioned. (Unlikely, yes, but at least they have a path where we do not currently and for the foreseeable future). I don’t like it either but that is the reality. He may be positioning himself for the next iteration of a CFP that includes more than a top 4?

There is not a coach that I would want that does not think that he is the one to succeed wildly where others have failed. Coaching is a type “A” profession, all the way, you have to be wired that way to be the best of the best and I think Norvell is certainly that.

Let it play out but don’t think for a second that Norvell is not at least talking to some of these suitors, he would be an idiot not to, and I believe him to be represented by the best agent in the history of agents.

Today’s teams at the top were not always at the top. Georgia, Fla, Bama, LSU, even Auburn, they have all been down relatively recently, and now some of them are the perceived unbeatables that he would not want to coach against?

Enjoy and savor the time with OUR Coach, he is ours until otherwise. I for one hope that he proves different than the norm and stays here forever, but understand that his priorities don’t necessarily align with my own. When he does leave, it will be with my thanks and best wishes.


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You say he has no chance to play for a natl title, but he'll have a top 25 team virtually every year. At OM, MO & AR that is not likely. And there is very little difference in the money with much more security here. Wisdom is to wait for a premo job. And if MN keeps winning AAC west titles, plays for AAC titles, he will eventually get his opportunity at a premo job or usher Memphis into the big time - both better options than OM, AR or MO for jobs.


You say top 25, but what you really mean is top 15-25, rarely higher, and a single loss costs you big time. Slim margin for error (Tulsa?). I don’t know what the difference is in the money, nor would a guess get me anywhere close, probably.

Primo job somewhere? Absolutely, but does he want to wait? As one poster here said, if OU comes calling he is gone, and should be. The rest really depends on what is important to him and his family, and no one can really predict that or the timeframe.


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For sure OU is a premo job, probably the best job in the B12, even better than UT because it doesn't seem anyone can win at Tex anymore. Any job at the top univ in a P5 conference is a premo job. Even FSU is a premo job with the right contract & support (facilities) but that is about the bottom. Below FSU, all others in the ACC are 2nd-3rd-4th tier. Then you have Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA & UF as top in the SEC, OU & UT in the B12. Personally I don't think you'll ever have a nationally competitive school in the PAC again. CA is just screwed up socially & politically and their high school sports programs are a mess too. That means, IMO, there are about 10-12 premo jobs. and if MN keeps winning here with a clean program & no controversies, he'll eventually get one of those jobs if he is patient. Have not included the B10 (maybe 2-3 jobs there) because it's a different culture that might not suit MN.

He could also go 6-6 next year at Memphis and find himself out of contention for top jobs. I’m sure he’s being advised to highly consider taking a P5 job when you’re a hot prospect. I really don’t see him here next year if he is offered a position at Arkansas or Missouri.

I hope he stays, but I don’t think it will happen. He’s done a outstanding job here and we’re in a great position to hire a quality coach. Anyway, I’m just looking forward to Saturday and hoping for a Cotton Bowl bid.
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(12-02-2019 04:43 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:30 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 09:31 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 08:47 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 06:53 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Here we go again. Statues and legacy and all of the things that some envision are important to someone they have never met. People also toss out the millions he stands to gain as inconsequential because he has already earned more than they can fathom and has other priorities defined for him by the anonymous internet crowd (of which, I am just one with an opinion, and idle time in an airport to weigh in).

He DOES NOT have a chance of playing for a championship here, whereas he does at any of the schools mentioned. (Unlikely, yes, but at least they have a path where we do not currently and for the foreseeable future). I don’t like it either but that is the reality. He may be positioning himself for the next iteration of a CFP that includes more than a top 4?

There is not a coach that I would want that does not think that he is the one to succeed wildly where others have failed. Coaching is a type “A” profession, all the way, you have to be wired that way to be the best of the best and I think Norvell is certainly that.

Let it play out but don’t think for a second that Norvell is not at least talking to some of these suitors, he would be an idiot not to, and I believe him to be represented by the best agent in the history of agents.

Today’s teams at the top were not always at the top. Georgia, Fla, Bama, LSU, even Auburn, they have all been down relatively recently, and now some of them are the perceived unbeatables that he would not want to coach against?

Enjoy and savor the time with OUR Coach, he is ours until otherwise. I for one hope that he proves different than the norm and stays here forever, but understand that his priorities don’t necessarily align with my own. When he does leave, it will be with my thanks and best wishes.


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You say he has no chance to play for a natl title, but he'll have a top 25 team virtually every year. At OM, MO & AR that is not likely. And there is very little difference in the money with much more security here. Wisdom is to wait for a premo job. And if MN keeps winning AAC west titles, plays for AAC titles, he will eventually get his opportunity at a premo job or usher Memphis into the big time - both better options than OM, AR or MO for jobs.


You say top 25, but what you really mean is top 15-25, rarely higher, and a single loss costs you big time. Slim margin for error (Tulsa?). I don’t know what the difference is in the money, nor would a guess get me anywhere close, probably.

Primo job somewhere? Absolutely, but does he want to wait? As one poster here said, if OU comes calling he is gone, and should be. The rest really depends on what is important to him and his family, and no one can really predict that or the timeframe.


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For sure OU is a premo job, probably the best job in the B12, even better than UT because it doesn't seem anyone can win at Tex anymore. Any job at the top univ in a P5 conference is a premo job. Even FSU is a premo job with the right contract & support (facilities) but that is about the bottom. Below FSU, all others in the ACC are 2nd-3rd-4th tier. Then you have Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA & UF as top in the SEC, OU & UT in the B12. Personally I don't think you'll ever have a nationally competitive school in the PAC again. CA is just screwed up socially & politically and their high school sports programs are a mess too. That means, IMO, there are about 10-12 premo jobs. and if MN keeps winning here with a clean program & no controversies, he'll eventually get one of those jobs if he is patient. Have not included the B10 (maybe 2-3 jobs there) because it's a different culture that might not suit MN.

He could also go 6-6 next year at Memphis and find himself out of contention for top jobs I’m sure he’s being advised to highly consider taking a P5 job when you’re a hot prospect. I really don’t see him here next year if he is offered a position at Arkansas or Missouri.

I hope he stays, but I don’t think it will happen. He’s done a outstanding job here and we’re in a great position to hire a quality coach. Anyway, I’m just looking forward to Saturday and hoping for a Cotton Bowl bid.


Good point that no one wants to admit is a possibility. I even think it is remote, but there is some truth to the old adage of striking while the iron is hot.

Either way, I am complete with any speculation from me. It is time to now look forward to our Coach and our Tigers this weekend.


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Missouri radio guy claiming they offered and Norvell turned them down (SIAP)
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Bro, if you think the Tigers could go 6 and 6 in 2020 with what there returning plus big time kids coming in at RB and WR, I have some land on the Moon I will sell you.....lol


(12-02-2019 04:43 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:30 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 09:31 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 08:47 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 06:53 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Here we go again. Statues and legacy and all of the things that some envision are important to someone they have never met. People also toss out the millions he stands to gain as inconsequential because he has already earned more than they can fathom and has other priorities defined for him by the anonymous internet crowd (of which, I am just one with an opinion, and idle time in an airport to weigh in).

He DOES NOT have a chance of playing for a championship here, whereas he does at any of the schools mentioned. (Unlikely, yes, but at least they have a path where we do not currently and for the foreseeable future). I don’t like it either but that is the reality. He may be positioning himself for the next iteration of a CFP that includes more than a top 4?

There is not a coach that I would want that does not think that he is the one to succeed wildly where others have failed. Coaching is a type “A” profession, all the way, you have to be wired that way to be the best of the best and I think Norvell is certainly that.

Let it play out but don’t think for a second that Norvell is not at least talking to some of these suitors, he would be an idiot not to, and I believe him to be represented by the best agent in the history of agents.

Today’s teams at the top were not always at the top. Georgia, Fla, Bama, LSU, even Auburn, they have all been down relatively recently, and now some of them are the perceived unbeatables that he would not want to coach against?

Enjoy and savor the time with OUR Coach, he is ours until otherwise. I for one hope that he proves different than the norm and stays here forever, but understand that his priorities don’t necessarily align with my own. When he does leave, it will be with my thanks and best wishes.


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You say he has no chance to play for a natl title, but he'll have a top 25 team virtually every year. At OM, MO & AR that is not likely. And there is very little difference in the money with much more security here. Wisdom is to wait for a premo job. And if MN keeps winning AAC west titles, plays for AAC titles, he will eventually get his opportunity at a premo job or usher Memphis into the big time - both better options than OM, AR or MO for jobs.


You say top 25, but what you really mean is top 15-25, rarely higher, and a single loss costs you big time. Slim margin for error (Tulsa?). I don’t know what the difference is in the money, nor would a guess get me anywhere close, probably.

Primo job somewhere? Absolutely, but does he want to wait? As one poster here said, if OU comes calling he is gone, and should be. The rest really depends on what is important to him and his family, and no one can really predict that or the timeframe.


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For sure OU is a premo job, probably the best job in the B12, even better than UT because it doesn't seem anyone can win at Tex anymore. Any job at the top univ in a P5 conference is a premo job. Even FSU is a premo job with the right contract & support (facilities) but that is about the bottom. Below FSU, all others in the ACC are 2nd-3rd-4th tier. Then you have Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA & UF as top in the SEC, OU & UT in the B12. Personally I don't think you'll ever have a nationally competitive school in the PAC again. CA is just screwed up socially & politically and their high school sports programs are a mess too. That means, IMO, there are about 10-12 premo jobs. and if MN keeps winning here with a clean program & no controversies, he'll eventually get one of those jobs if he is patient. Have not included the B10 (maybe 2-3 jobs there) because it's a different culture that might not suit MN.

He could also go 6-6 next year at Memphis and find himself out of contention for top jobs. I’m sure he’s being advised to highly consider taking a P5 job when you’re a hot prospect. I really don’t see him here next year if he is offered a position at Arkansas or Missouri.

I hope he stays, but I don’t think it will happen. He’s done a outstanding job here and we’re in a great position to hire a quality coach. Anyway, I’m just looking forward to Saturday and hoping for a Cotton Bowl bid.
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(12-02-2019 12:17 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  I think you guys are minimizing the allure of sitting at the grown ups table. With a win Saturday, he will have accomplished about all he can at Memphis. Playing in the Cotton Bowl (or whatever the top bowl a non P5 team can expect to make) is pretty much the pinnacle.

Motivated, ambitious coaches like Norvell usually look for something higher. I could easily see him at Arkansas or Missouri next year. I’m sure he thinks he could get the job done at either place. Realistically, it will be difficult to really succeed at either place, but I’d be surprised if he wouldn’t take either job if offered. I’m not so sure of Ole Miss, but I’m sure he’d listen.

I’d love to keep him here, but I totally understand if he leaves for greener pastures. He’s left the program in a great state, and we should find a lot of great coaches interested in the job. As we know, other than Fuente, it’s been a coaching graveyard.

I’d really be surprised if he is our coach next year...

Mizzou is not the grown ups table...they’re the hired help.

I think what some people don’t understand that Norvell has a nationally recognized reputation now.

To which only a national program is fitting NOT a regional one.

Ole Miss, Ark, Mizzou are regional programs at best.

Ole Miss beat Bama several times but never played for an SEC championship nor in the playoff and got whipped in bowl games...they are NOT a national program.

Mizzou played in the SEC championship in a period where ut, fla and ga were hapless. Now that 2 of them are back on their feet they will never sniff the SEC champ game for a generation. regional, not national.

I don’t remember all of Ark history other than knowing in my lifetime theyve never won an SEC champ and not been there enough to matter. The only bowl game I remember is the Sugar bowl where Ohio State beat them senseless. Just a regional program at best.

Norvell has national brand now.


I mean Nebraska thought they were a national program and could throw money at the problem, and Scott Frost was THE hot coach...how’s that going????
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RE: CBS Sports seriously reporting Norvell Top Target of....Mizzou
(12-02-2019 05:48 PM)TigersTigers Wrote:  Bro, if you think the Tigers could go 6 and 6 in 2020 with what there returning plus big time kids coming in at RB and WR, I have some land on the Moon I will sell you.....lol


(12-02-2019 04:43 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:30 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 09:31 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 08:47 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  You say he has no chance to play for a natl title, but he'll have a top 25 team virtually every year. At OM, MO & AR that is not likely. And there is very little difference in the money with much more security here. Wisdom is to wait for a premo job. And if MN keeps winning AAC west titles, plays for AAC titles, he will eventually get his opportunity at a premo job or usher Memphis into the big time - both better options than OM, AR or MO for jobs.


You say top 25, but what you really mean is top 15-25, rarely higher, and a single loss costs you big time. Slim margin for error (Tulsa?). I don’t know what the difference is in the money, nor would a guess get me anywhere close, probably.

Primo job somewhere? Absolutely, but does he want to wait? As one poster here said, if OU comes calling he is gone, and should be. The rest really depends on what is important to him and his family, and no one can really predict that or the timeframe.


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For sure OU is a premo job, probably the best job in the B12, even better than UT because it doesn't seem anyone can win at Tex anymore. Any job at the top univ in a P5 conference is a premo job. Even FSU is a premo job with the right contract & support (facilities) but that is about the bottom. Below FSU, all others in the ACC are 2nd-3rd-4th tier. Then you have Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA & UF as top in the SEC, OU & UT in the B12. Personally I don't think you'll ever have a nationally competitive school in the PAC again. CA is just screwed up socially & politically and their high school sports programs are a mess too. That means, IMO, there are about 10-12 premo jobs. and if MN keeps winning here with a clean program & no controversies, he'll eventually get one of those jobs if he is patient. Have not included the B10 (maybe 2-3 jobs there) because it's a different culture that might not suit MN.

He could also go 6-6 next year at Memphis and find himself out of contention for top jobs. I’m sure he’s being advised to highly consider taking a P5 job when you’re a hot prospect. I really don’t see him here next year if he is offered a position at Arkansas or Missouri.

I hope he stays, but I don’t think it will happen. He’s done a outstanding job here and we’re in a great position to hire a quality coach. Anyway, I’m just looking forward to Saturday and hoping for a Cotton Bowl bid.

So said many other programs.... Its football, anything can happen. We’ve lost multiple QBs to injury in the first few weeks of a season. Who knows? I sure hope we don’t go 6-6, but it’s certainly possible.
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(12-02-2019 05:48 PM)TigersTigers Wrote:  Bro, if you think the Tigers could go 6 and 6 in 2020 with what there returning plus big time kids coming in at RB and WR, I have some land on the Moon I will sell you.....lol


(12-02-2019 04:43 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:30 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 09:31 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 08:47 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  You say he has no chance to play for a natl title, but he'll have a top 25 team virtually every year. At OM, MO & AR that is not likely. And there is very little difference in the money with much more security here. Wisdom is to wait for a premo job. And if MN keeps winning AAC west titles, plays for AAC titles, he will eventually get his opportunity at a premo job or usher Memphis into the big time - both better options than OM, AR or MO for jobs.


You say top 25, but what you really mean is top 15-25, rarely higher, and a single loss costs you big time. Slim margin for error (Tulsa?). I don’t know what the difference is in the money, nor would a guess get me anywhere close, probably.

Primo job somewhere? Absolutely, but does he want to wait? As one poster here said, if OU comes calling he is gone, and should be. The rest really depends on what is important to him and his family, and no one can really predict that or the timeframe.


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For sure OU is a premo job, probably the best job in the B12, even better than UT because it doesn't seem anyone can win at Tex anymore. Any job at the top univ in a P5 conference is a premo job. Even FSU is a premo job with the right contract & support (facilities) but that is about the bottom. Below FSU, all others in the ACC are 2nd-3rd-4th tier. Then you have Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA & UF as top in the SEC, OU & UT in the B12. Personally I don't think you'll ever have a nationally competitive school in the PAC again. CA is just screwed up socially & politically and their high school sports programs are a mess too. That means, IMO, there are about 10-12 premo jobs. and if MN keeps winning here with a clean program & no controversies, he'll eventually get one of those jobs if he is patient. Have not included the B10 (maybe 2-3 jobs there) because it's a different culture that might not suit MN.

He could also go 6-6 next year at Memphis and find himself out of contention for top jobs. I’m sure he’s being advised to highly consider taking a P5 job when you’re a hot prospect. I really don’t see him here next year if he is offered a position at Arkansas or Missouri.

I hope he stays, but I don’t think it will happen. He’s done a outstanding job here and we’re in a great position to hire a quality coach. Anyway, I’m just looking forward to Saturday and hoping for a Cotton Bowl bid.

picture our record if Brady White had gone down to injury this season...
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(12-02-2019 08:09 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 05:48 PM)TigersTigers Wrote:  Bro, if you think the Tigers could go 6 and 6 in 2020 with what there returning plus big time kids coming in at RB and WR, I have some land on the Moon I will sell you.....lol


(12-02-2019 04:43 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:30 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 09:31 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  You say top 25, but what you really mean is top 15-25, rarely higher, and a single loss costs you big time. Slim margin for error (Tulsa?). I don’t know what the difference is in the money, nor would a guess get me anywhere close, probably.

Primo job somewhere? Absolutely, but does he want to wait? As one poster here said, if OU comes calling he is gone, and should be. The rest really depends on what is important to him and his family, and no one can really predict that or the timeframe.


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For sure OU is a premo job, probably the best job in the B12, even better than UT because it doesn't seem anyone can win at Tex anymore. Any job at the top univ in a P5 conference is a premo job. Even FSU is a premo job with the right contract & support (facilities) but that is about the bottom. Below FSU, all others in the ACC are 2nd-3rd-4th tier. Then you have Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA & UF as top in the SEC, OU & UT in the B12. Personally I don't think you'll ever have a nationally competitive school in the PAC again. CA is just screwed up socially & politically and their high school sports programs are a mess too. That means, IMO, there are about 10-12 premo jobs. and if MN keeps winning here with a clean program & no controversies, he'll eventually get one of those jobs if he is patient. Have not included the B10 (maybe 2-3 jobs there) because it's a different culture that might not suit MN.

He could also go 6-6 next year at Memphis and find himself out of contention for top jobs. I’m sure he’s being advised to highly consider taking a P5 job when you’re a hot prospect. I really don’t see him here next year if he is offered a position at Arkansas or Missouri.

I hope he stays, but I don’t think it will happen. He’s done a outstanding job here and we’re in a great position to hire a quality coach. Anyway, I’m just looking forward to Saturday and hoping for a Cotton Bowl bid.

picture our record if Brady White had gone down to injury this season...

I sure hope it’s not the case with us, but every year several preseason top 25 teams have awful years. Lots of moving pieces. Particularly with a win Saturday, how much higher would his ceiling ever be? Anyway, Norvell will do what’s best for his family. I’m sure Memphis will offer him a great deal, and if he chooses to take it or move on, we’re still in a great spot.

I’m out of this speculation, you guys can worry yourself silly over it. I’m just excited on Saturday and hopefully getting ready for a trip to Dallas...
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(12-02-2019 07:59 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 05:48 PM)TigersTigers Wrote:  Bro, if you think the Tigers could go 6 and 6 in 2020 with what there returning plus big time kids coming in at RB and WR, I have some land on the Moon I will sell you.....lol


(12-02-2019 04:43 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:30 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 09:31 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  You say top 25, but what you really mean is top 15-25, rarely higher, and a single loss costs you big time. Slim margin for error (Tulsa?). I don’t know what the difference is in the money, nor would a guess get me anywhere close, probably.

Primo job somewhere? Absolutely, but does he want to wait? As one poster here said, if OU comes calling he is gone, and should be. The rest really depends on what is important to him and his family, and no one can really predict that or the timeframe.


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For sure OU is a premo job, probably the best job in the B12, even better than UT because it doesn't seem anyone can win at Tex anymore. Any job at the top univ in a P5 conference is a premo job. Even FSU is a premo job with the right contract & support (facilities) but that is about the bottom. Below FSU, all others in the ACC are 2nd-3rd-4th tier. Then you have Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA & UF as top in the SEC, OU & UT in the B12. Personally I don't think you'll ever have a nationally competitive school in the PAC again. CA is just screwed up socially & politically and their high school sports programs are a mess too. That means, IMO, there are about 10-12 premo jobs. and if MN keeps winning here with a clean program & no controversies, he'll eventually get one of those jobs if he is patient. Have not included the B10 (maybe 2-3 jobs there) because it's a different culture that might not suit MN.

He could also go 6-6 next year at Memphis and find himself out of contention for top jobs. I’m sure he’s being advised to highly consider taking a P5 job when you’re a hot prospect. I really don’t see him here next year if he is offered a position at Arkansas or Missouri.

I hope he stays, but I don’t think it will happen. He’s done a outstanding job here and we’re in a great position to hire a quality coach. Anyway, I’m just looking forward to Saturday and hoping for a Cotton Bowl bid.

So said many other programs.... Its football, anything can happen. We’ve lost multiple QBs to injury in the first few weeks of a season. Who knows? I sure hope we don’t go 6-6, but it’s certainly possible.

He’s probably going to be making 3.5 to 4 mill next year if he stays. 6-6 wont happen, but if it does, he still gets paid.
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(12-02-2019 04:43 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
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(12-02-2019 06:53 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Here we go again. Statues and legacy and all of the things that some envision are important to someone they have never met. People also toss out the millions he stands to gain as inconsequential because he has already earned more than they can fathom and has other priorities defined for him by the anonymous internet crowd (of which, I am just one with an opinion, and idle time in an airport to weigh in).

He DOES NOT have a chance of playing for a championship here, whereas he does at any of the schools mentioned. (Unlikely, yes, but at least they have a path where we do not currently and for the foreseeable future). I don’t like it either but that is the reality. He may be positioning himself for the next iteration of a CFP that includes more than a top 4?

There is not a coach that I would want that does not think that he is the one to succeed wildly where others have failed. Coaching is a type “A” profession, all the way, you have to be wired that way to be the best of the best and I think Norvell is certainly that.

Let it play out but don’t think for a second that Norvell is not at least talking to some of these suitors, he would be an idiot not to, and I believe him to be represented by the best agent in the history of agents.

Today’s teams at the top were not always at the top. Georgia, Fla, Bama, LSU, even Auburn, they have all been down relatively recently, and now some of them are the perceived unbeatables that he would not want to coach against?

Enjoy and savor the time with OUR Coach, he is ours until otherwise. I for one hope that he proves different than the norm and stays here forever, but understand that his priorities don’t necessarily align with my own. When he does leave, it will be with my thanks and best wishes.


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You say he has no chance to play for a natl title, but he'll have a top 25 team virtually every year. At OM, MO & AR that is not likely. And there is very little difference in the money with much more security here. Wisdom is to wait for a premo job. And if MN keeps winning AAC west titles, plays for AAC titles, he will eventually get his opportunity at a premo job or usher Memphis into the big time - both better options than OM, AR or MO for jobs.


You say top 25, but what you really mean is top 15-25, rarely higher, and a single loss costs you big time. Slim margin for error (Tulsa?). I don’t know what the difference is in the money, nor would a guess get me anywhere close, probably.

Primo job somewhere? Absolutely, but does he want to wait? As one poster here said, if OU comes calling he is gone, and should be. The rest really depends on what is important to him and his family, and no one can really predict that or the timeframe.


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For sure OU is a premo job, probably the best job in the B12, even better than UT because it doesn't seem anyone can win at Tex anymore. Any job at the top univ in a P5 conference is a premo job. Even FSU is a premo job with the right contract & support (facilities) but that is about the bottom. Below FSU, all others in the ACC are 2nd-3rd-4th tier. Then you have Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA & UF as top in the SEC, OU & UT in the B12. Personally I don't think you'll ever have a nationally competitive school in the PAC again. CA is just screwed up socially & politically and their high school sports programs are a mess too. That means, IMO, there are about 10-12 premo jobs. and if MN keeps winning here with a clean program & no controversies, he'll eventually get one of those jobs if he is patient. Have not included the B10 (maybe 2-3 jobs there) because it's a different culture that might not suit MN.

He could also go 6-6 next year at Memphis and find himself out of contention for top jobs. I’m sure he’s being advised to highly consider taking a P5 job when you’re a hot prospect. I really don’t see him here next year if he is offered a position at Arkansas or Missouri.

I hope he stays, but I don’t think it will happen. He’s done a outstanding job here and we’re in a great position to hire a quality coach. Anyway, I’m just looking forward to Saturday and hoping for a Cotton Bowl bid.

There is no way on earth we lose more than 4 games next year, and we might even lose 0 going into the bowl game.
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