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RE: ACC Coastal Parity
(12-03-2019 01:41 AM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:14 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Why is this considered a negative. Looks like almost any team has a shot to win that division any given season.

Well it depends on how you look at it. From the perspective of schools that are not traditionally dominating yes that could be seen as a real positive and something to keep fans looking up to.

For those looking at conference strength the tendency is that having a small number of really strong teams makes you more noticeable in strength than a bunch of teams that are similar in strength but knock each other out of contention all the time.

The way college football does rankings and things of that sort really rewards having gaudy records even over weak competition than it does playing well but not having a dominating record against teams at your level even if yoru level is really high.

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12-03-2019 08:50 AM
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RE: ACC Coastal Parity
(12-02-2019 10:44 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  Just imagine if we had messageboards back when Nebraska would roll through extremely weak Big 8 schedules

What I know is the ACC has 3 National Titles this decade
Big 10? 2014 Ohio State
Big XII??
PAC 12????

2014 Georgia Tech stomped the hell out of Miss St
2016 FSU beat a good Michigan team

2 Heisman winners: Jameis Winston, Lamar Jackson

Clemson has managed to create a rivalry with the dominate program of the decade. If it wasn't for Alabama, Clemson would probably have 4 straight championships

It's been a good decade for the ACC

Yes and No. The ACC has gotten better, but not because of NCs or Heismans. Those are individual awards. E.g., when UNLV won the hoops national title in 1990, that didn't mean the Big West was a good conference.

That said, the MC clearly shows ACC progress. It was a terrible first half-decade, but a much better second half. ACC conference ranking in final post-bowl MC for the past 10 years:

2010 .... 5
2011 .... 5
2012 .... 6
2013 .... 5
2014 .... 5
2015 .... 5
2016 .... 2
2017 .... 1
2018 .... 4

So we see that for the first six years of this decade, the ACC was bad. In 2012 it finished behind the Big East/AAC. In 2013 - 2015, it was last among the new P5 conferences.

But the last three years, it hasn't been last, in fact in 2016 and 2017 it was #2 and #1. Last year, it slipped to #4.

But notice there isn't much connection between championship years and conference strength. In 2013, when FSU won the title, the ACC was the last-place conference. In 2014, when Winston won the Heisman, again, last place. Now yes, in 2016, when Clemson won the title, the ACC was the second-place conference. But then last year when Clemson won the title, back to 4th place.

Bottom line though is that the ACC has risen out of the cellar among the P5.
12-03-2019 09:19 AM
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