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Old Dominion (3-4) will play Loyola Chicago (3-4) in the third game of the Cayman Islands Classic on Wednesday, November 26 at 11:00am.

Game can be streamed on Flosports (subscription required).

ESPN's matchup predictor gives ODU a 28.6% chance of winning.

Kenpom from 11/27: ODU (156), Washington State (121)

Loyola Chi is favored by 3.5.

Fun fact #1: This is the 2nd out of 3 Loyola schools we will be playing, this is the one who has a national championship.

Fun fact #2: With the loss to Washington State, we have officially dropped past our initial preseason kenpom rating of 145.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
Wednesday 11:00 in George Town: Loyola, Chicago (3-4). FloHoops.

Results to date: UC Davis (82-48); Furman (63-87); Coppin State (72-76); St Joseph’s (85-68); IUPUI (85-62); S Florida (55-66); Colorado State (60-61).

Last game: Loyola started fast and led 37-34 at HT. Loyola started the second half with a 10-2 run to lead by 12, but Colorado State came back and finished the game 10-0, hitting the winning basket with 0:01. Tate Hall led the Ramblers with 22 pts (8-14 FG, 3-5 3s, 3-4 FT) plus 5 assists and Cameron Krutwig added 14 (7-12 FG) plus 8 RBs.

Stats: 71.7 pts (vs 66.9); .530 FG (.298 3s); .708 FT; +0.9 RB; A/TO= 0.97

Starters
F Aher Uguak (6-7 225 Jr). 29.1 min.; .576 FG (0-3 3s); .765 FT; 3.7 RB; 2.4 assists; 7.3 pts
C Cameron Krutwig (6-9 255 Jr). 29.7 min.; .648 FG; .840 FT; 6.6 RB; 5 assists; 16.1 pts
G Tate Hall (6-6 220 Jr). 30.9 min.; .493 FG (10-26 3s); .593 FT; 5.0 RB; 2.1 steals; 13.4 pts
G Lucas Williamson (6-4 205 Jr). 30.4 min.; .477 FG (10-36 3s); .818 FT; 4.1 RB; 11.6 pts
G Marquise Kennedy (6-1 175 Fr). 22.9 min.; .540 FG (4-15 3s); .588 FT; 2.9 RB; 9.7 pts

Bench
G Paxson Wojcik (6-4 185 Fr). 21.3 min.; .619 FG (2-4 3s); .600 FT; 2.8 RB; 5.2 pts
G Jalon Pipkins (6-4 180 Jr). 14.6 min.; .370 FG (4-11 3s); .500 FT; 1.1 RB; 3.7 pts
F Frank Agunanne (6-9 245 So). 7.0 min.; .667 FG; 1.000 FT; 1.5 RB; 3.0 pts
F Tom Welch (6-8 220 Fr). 9.1 min.; .600 FG; .700 FT; 1.0 RB; 2.7 pts
G Bruno Skokna (6-4 175 Sr). 11.4 min.; .385 FG (1-6 3s); 1.000 FT; 1.9 pts

Excellent shooting team, mostly inside (14.6 3-pt attempts/g). Bigs pass well. Team hasn’t finished well of late…Colorado State 10-0 and S Fla 21-7 in their two losses in the tourney. Loyola was picked 4 th MVC preseason. Krutwig was MVC pre-season POY and Lucas Williamson 3rd team.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
I think we might lose this one too if they're a good inside shooting team... meaning they have bigs that know how to get position and put the ball in the hole.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
(11-27-2019 10:22 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  I think we might lose this one too if they're a good inside shooting team... meaning they have bigs that know how to get position and put the ball in the hole.

That is one of the things we are really good at. We only allow 43% on 2 point field goals. Im more worried about teams that shoot a lot from 3.

This will be another low scoring game. They have a very efficient offense. They don't hit the offensive glass at all and they shoot very few 3s (and not very well at 30%). But, they shoot 62% from inside the arc, which is 2nd in the nation. It will be a good battle to see good vs. good in terms of interior play (offense vs. defense).

Im surprised they are as big of a fave as they are. Best win against St Joes (204); losses vs. Coppin State (218), and Colorado State (148).

Of course, there is a huge contrast in how we played the first 4 games than the last 3 so if we play like the last 3, we won't win. If we play like the first 4, we win easily.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
(11-27-2019 10:29 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(11-27-2019 10:22 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  I think we might lose this one too if they're a good inside shooting team... meaning they have bigs that know how to get position and put the ball in the hole.

That is one of the things we are really good at. We only allow 43% on 2 point field goals. Im more worried about teams that shoot a lot from 3.

This will be another low scoring game. They have a very efficient offense. They don't hit the offensive glass at all and they shoot very few 3s (and not very well at 30%). But, they shoot 62% from inside the arc, which is 2nd in the nation. It will be a good battle to see good vs. good in terms of interior play (offense vs. defense).

Im surprised they are as big of a fave as they are. Best win against St Joes (204); losses vs. Coppin State (218), and Colorado State (148).

Of course, there is a huge contrast in how we played the first 4 games than the last 3 so if we play like the last 3, we won't win. If we play like the first 4, we win easily.

ODU thus far has not shown themselves to be a good interior defensive team. JMU certainly isn't a juggernaut as far as inside offensive play goes, but they beat ODU at the TED like a drum there. The also outrebounded ODU by 14 I believe, including getting a lot of them on the offensive end. Stats showing ODU only gives up 42% on 2 point field goals doesn't necessarily mean they only give up 42% of field goals shot from the low post (say 1-6 feet out). An 18 foot 2 point jump shot typically isn't as high a percentage shot as a 3 footer off the window.

Most teams with several wins and several losses can say, "if we play like we did against that/those teams we will win, but if we play like we did against those other ones we will lose". In other words, ODU could play it's best in those games and still lose if the other team did as well (not talking about this Loyola game specifically).
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
We cant do anything right now
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
This team doesn't have a leader! They are going down the drain and nobody is there to stop it or turn it around!
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
Down 10 early.

I'll put a positive thought out there. Dave Twardzik is an excellent analyst. Says more with 10 words than most can using 100.

This team has no leadership. Hoping it will develop. Wondering if Wade can impose his will on this team.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
Those 3 victories seem like a long time ago.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
Listening to this on the radio, our play reminds me as the Beatles Helter Skelter song.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
Is it my imagination or are we getting worse every game. 14 points and the first half is nearly over.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
We have life at the end of the half. We'll see.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
Again...replacing Amhad is going to be difficult early. It has been said many times that our PG play and overall team play was heavily impacted. I am hoping this team can find it's rhythm by conference play time. I am still saying 18 as the over under on wins.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
(11-27-2019 11:30 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Is it my imagination or are we getting worse every game. 14 points and the first half is nearly over.

Thats why it is so important to have a take charge leader on your team. Someone that keeps the team spirit up even when you are losing. My vote would be Aaron Carver or Jason wade or both!
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
(11-27-2019 11:49 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  Again...replacing Amhad is going to be difficult early. It has been said many times that our PG play and overall team play was heavily impacted. I am hoping this team can find it's rhythm by conference play time. I am still saying 18 as the over under on wins.

Understood. But losing at home to JMU and possibly going 0 for in this tournament wasn't expected. Hang on, because we are getting to play good teams pretty soon.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
Guess who is in foul trouble again.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
Joe Reece has to get more time moving forward. We need him to be experienced by the end of the year.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
(11-27-2019 12:18 PM)757ODU Wrote:  Joe Reece has to get more time moving forward. We need him to be experienced by the end of the year.

Reece and Godwin have stepped up in this tournament. No one else has done much.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
X needs to be the man, right now.
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RE: Cayman Islands Gm 3: Loyola Chicago - Wed 11/27, 11:00am
We get the lead down in most games and can't get over the hump.
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